Poor NCAA Oversight- Bad NBA Draft Rule

[ssckelley]

Actually, there's a profession where you need 4 years of college. It's called the public education system. See Board of Educational Examiners

Totally different, you are comparing a public entity to a business.

 

[GhostofBTT]

I do not recall any other profession where the employer is forced to hire only after the prospective employee has completed 1 or 2 years of college. The NBA is an employer and a 18 year "adult" should have the right to apply for a job out of High School. Forcing them to go to college, IMO, is hurting the NCAA because now there is so much paridy in the college game (see George Mason and Butler). Force these coaches to go out and recruit kids that actually want a college education and is not merely using the school as a "marketing tool" to jump into the NBA.

The employer isn't forced to do anything. The NBA is the employer, and the employer is making its own rule. The NBA is free to declare their own employment rules.

A business is free to set the qualifications for its employees. The NBA isn't forcing anyone to go to college, it just isn't letting them play in their league. And like I said before, the NBA doesn't (and shouldn't) care if their business plan harms the NCAA.

An 18 year old can apply for any job they want, but they don't have a right to be hired by anyone. Maurice Clarett and Mike Williams tried to challenege the NFL on this front, and lost miserably. The courts uphold time and again an employers right to hire whomever they want.

 

[NewMexHawk]

Minimum age requirement is ridiculous. Eighteen-year olds can sign up for the military and go to war and get killed but they cannot sign multimillion dollar contracts because it might hurt college basketball? What sense does that make.

The easiest and best thing to do is make the NBA set up their own league and make kids who think they are ready for the NBA go to this league instead of college. Let the NBA babysit these kids, develop them, or draft them. If the street kids don't want to go to college and think they are ready for the NBA let the NBA develop them. Quit with the one and done. Those kids are not studying and are taking courses that are as easy as possible. They could care less about college. Let them go to a league set up by the NBA and don't let them into college.

In the NBA development league the NBA can develop them however they want.

I don't know how colleges would do this because the coaches want these kids and the NBA doesn't want to spend the money on a new league or training them. They like the idea of using colleges as a developmental league and letting college coaches babysit players even if it is only for 1 year. The NBA gets to see how good a player is after 1 year rather than drafting right out of high school.

AND you can't force a kid to stay in college for 2 or 3 years unless the NBA would go along with it and they aren't about to because it wouldn't stand up in court. The only way colleges could do that would be if the NBA let kids go to their developmental league instead of college and developed kids themselves and they don't want to do that, they want colleges to do that for them. They kind of do that now when kids declare and don't make it.

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

Minimum age requirement is ridiculous. Eighteen-year olds can sign up for the military and go to war and get killed but they cannot sign multimillion dollar contracts because it might hurt college basketball? What sense does that make.

The easiest and best thing to do is make the NBA set up their own league and make kids who think they are ready for the NBA go to this league instead of college. Let the NBA babysit these kids, develop them, or draft them. If the street kids don't want to go to college and think they are ready for the NBA let the NBA develop them. Quit with the one and done. Those kids are not studying and are taking courses that are as easy as possible. They could care less about college. Let them go to a league set up by the NBA and don't let them into college.

In the NBA development league the NBA can develop them however they want.

I don't know how colleges would do this because the coaches want these kids and the NBA doesn't want to spend the money on a new league or training them. They like the idea of using colleges as a developmental league and letting college coaches babysit players even if it is only for 1 year. The NBA gets to see how good a player is after 1 year rather than drafting right out of high school.

AND you can't force a kid to stay in college for 2 or 3 years unless the NBA would go along with it and they aren't about to because it wouldn't stand up in court. The only way colleges could do that would be if the NBA let kids go to their developmental league instead of college and developed kids themselves and they don't want to do that, they want colleges to do that for them. They kind of do that now when kids declare and don't make it.

Hurting college basketball has nothing to do with the age limit. As myself, and others, have said above it's all about improving the NBA's product and reducing the risk of unprepared kids flaming out in the league. Any private business can set any hiring guidelines they want. If the NBA wanted to raise the minimum age to 21 they absolutely could and it would stand up in court no problem. The NFL does this today, they require players to be three years removed from high school.

Also the NBA has a D-League that players can join right out of high school. No one is stopping kids from doing this and forcing them to go to college. They can go the Young Money route and go play overseas too.

 

[bws258]

I agree with what you're saying. I think the NBA needs a minimum age of 21 requirement. You can't drink or go to casinos until you're 21 - obvious age that society considers you are an adult. Players can choose to go overseas or play in the "D" league or choose college as long as strict academic progress requirements are met.

never happen and shouldn't

I know it's the NFL, not NBA, but what about kids like this:
Amobi Okoye - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[tm3308]

never happen and shouldn't

I know it's the NFL, not NBA, but what about kids like this:
Amobi Okoye - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Okay, not 21, but 3 years removed from high school. Okoye graduated high school at 16, was drafted at 19.

 

[JoeHawki]

While I would love to keep kids in college longer, as I believe it matures them both academically and physically, when it comes down to it they are just trying to get a job. In no other situation would we ask someone to waite if there was a job available to them. I know that I will get bashed on this one, but really it is that simple.

bashed? Actually this makes sense. I had not really thought of it like this before?

 

[GhostofBTT]

bashed? Actually this makes sense. I had not really thought of it like this before?

There isn't a job waiting for them. The company doing the hiring, the NBA, doesn't want to hire them.

That's the point. I will bash you both for being so....so....so something.

 

[Billso]

I've come around to the view that the NBA would actually help themselves by going to baseball's 2-yr rule. As a long-time (but former) NBA season-ticketholder, I watched the game degrade noticeably in the last 10 yrs with the influx of players woefully unprepared on the basics of the game, especially the team game and defense. Robert Swift was a Sonic so I saw that one up close but there are so many other examples, including some young "stars" not just the washouts.

I'd pair this with a mandatory 1-yr stint in D-league for anyone electing to come straight from high school. Even KG would have benefited, he looked like a wobbly confused colt his rookie year.