Player Predictions
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This is spot on with my opinion so it must be right.
NikeHawk21
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Yes. That along with the amount of PT I expect him to get and what I've seen from his game time last year, I think 12 is possible. I think I've made that pretty clear.
You estimated that he would average 8 PPG, but find 12 PPG wildly unimaginable.
I never estimated he would average 8ppg. I think he'll be around 5-6ppg
Who the heck do you think is going to score points next year? Fran runs an up tempo team so if our starting point guard who has a true freshman backup can only score 5-6 per game, we might be back to Lick scores. Watching an up tempo team score 40 is going to be interesting.
You have to understand, Mike couldn't shoot for crap or finish at the rim so he quit trying and still scored 8. He is probably a better player on the parts of the game that stats don't show, but matching his stats won't be a big feat. Other than assists of course.
5-6 ppg out of Williams, 4-5 ppg out of Bohannon. The 2/3 spot will do most of the back court scoring with Jok and company. Gesell is a better shooter than Williams but I would think Williams could finish better at the rim.
Which 2/3's tho? They are all unproven next year. At least we know Williams will play a lot. We can't say that about many other guards. And Mike "should have" been a better shooter than Williams. For whatever reason it didn't happen for him.
I was always a firm believer that Mike would break out and become a first team type player. After his freshman year I thought he would be one of the best ever at iowa. After his sophomore year I thought he would turn it on as an upperclassmen. Even halfway through his senior year I thought he would finish strong. Now he's out of eligibility and it's time to quit looking at him as the player he could have been.
Moss and Jok. Williams is just as unproven as Moss. At least Moss wasn't behind Ellingson most of the season. Williams is playing out of position, at least Moss and Jok are in their natural spots. For all we know Bohannon could get more minutes than Williams next year
ibahawkeye
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Maybe it's just me but I think Williams not playing in front of Ellingson says more about Brady than it does Christian. Brady got every opportunity to prove his value and keep the minutes. He just didn't do anything with the opportunity.
I think Fran was thinking with Mike & AC, we had 2 seasoned PGs and we had that position covered so we were looking for somebody to step up and play the 2. Turns out it was a better move to have CW play the 1 and keep AC at the 2 or play CW next to Jok and some of the bench than it was to play Ellingson.
I just think it's one of those things you don't know until you try different lineups to see what works as opposed to Williams not being able to beat out Brady.
Williams is going to score a lot of points next year. His first year he played multiple positions. If Bohannon is good enough to take minutes away from him at the point guard position, he will play some at the small forward and off guard, especially if Jok doesn't come back for his senior year. If Williams doesn't score in double digits, I think Iowa is going to be in a downward spiral next year. Uthoff was a guy that had to work on being aggressive, but Williams seem to be naturally aggressive on the basketball court.
I think that's pretty drastic because the odds Williams averages double digit points are extremely low and I still think we'll be at least an NIT team
You do realize how long it's been since we have had a PG average double digits right? Now you think it's a pretty sure thing a totally unproven one will do it with no experience?
We've had the same point guard for 4 years. Marble played a lot of point and he averaged double figures tho. As bad at scoring as Gesell was, if Uthoff wasn't on the team, he would have averaged double figures.
It's possible that a guy like Jones, Moss, or Cook will average 12 or more points and we'll still be alright if Williams doesn't score. I'm with you tho, everything points to him being a main piece on a fast paced team, which means he will more than likely be in double figures or close.
Gesell is bad at scoring and we're just assuming CW will be better at it.
I am. You're not. That said, I won't be overly surprised if he doesn't score 8 per game. It's just my prediction that he will.
I'll go with 14 to 20 points a game average. If Iowa has a stronger offensive inside game it should be easier to give out assists next year. Iowa is losing Uthoff, but hopefully they will have three or four guys, including Ellingson and Bohannon, that will be more of an offensive threat than last years team had. He should average higher than Gesell in rebounds.
You think Williams will average 14-20 ppg?