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[wundergrape]

So make it legal, but treat it like alcohol, yeah that makes total sense, what am I thinking?

Argue with me on this if you like, but you have much more adverse affects from one joint than one beer. The severity of the impairment is far greater.

Here is a concept, if it is legalized, the "dumming down of America" will accelerate and people won't care about anything because they will be "just chillin" as a former ISU football player would say every day that I saw him in our dorm. He was always in a good mood, but was generally an unmotivated and lazy player, but I am sure him smoking weed every day had nothing to do with that.

Regulation is great and all and some people believe marijuana would boost the economy, but hey so would prostitution and legalizing heroin, cocaine, meth, LSD and so on an so forth. All would be wonderful in the world. Hey I am going to go have a 'shroom and go back and operate a crane, I am sure nothing would happen. If we just legalized all those things, there would be no need for the DEA, government could cut some cost there, just a happy savings all around.

Regulation of alcohol and tobacco is really working out. Amazing that those things can be regulated, but other things aren't. Hmmm I am happy paying out of my butt for gas and then watching oil companies make record profits every quarter. Not regulating banks proved to be genius. How people decide what and how to regulate is beyond me.

You're not going to get any argument from me as to the asinine nature of marijuana as a recreational drug. Silly, pointless stuff for the unimaginative and the bored. However, I'm not in the habit of telling people what they can and cannot do with their lives. I don't believe that you can legislate morality.

However, marijuana is a fairly victimless drug. If you're going to posit that marijuana causes people to be listless and apathetic, I'll go ahead and posit that alcohol causes people to be violent, irresponsible and homeless. I'm not sure about causality here, but I am sure that more social ills are caused by people who are addicted to alcohol (or herion, or cocaine, or LSD) than by people addicted to marijuana.

...and I also agree with you that the question of regulation is tricky and that it also has unforeseen consequences, especially when a market is beholden to someone other than the consumer (oil = geopoliticians, banks = corporations). When that happens, democracy has been co-opted. But the US drug market fuels cartels in Central and South America which consolidates huge amounts of power and negative influence in an unstable region, so removing revenue from the sources to American growers might just be a positive consequence of regulation.

There's no easy answer, but enforcing a ban on a minor depressant doesn't seem to be any kind of answer at all.

 

[sportstalent]

You're not going to get any argument from me as to the asinine nature of marijuana as a recreational drug. Silly, pointless stuff for the unimaginative and the bored. However, I'm not in the habit of telling people what they can and cannot do with their lives. I don't believe that you can legislate morality.

However, marijuana is a fairly victimless drug. If you're going to posit that marijuana causes people to be listless and apathetic, I'll go ahead and posit that alcohol causes people to be violent, irresponsible and homeless. I'm not sure about causality here, but I am sure that more social ills are caused by people who are addicted to alcohol (or herion, or cocaine, or LSD) than by people addicted to marijuana.

...and I also agree with you that the question of regulation is tricky and that it also has unforeseen consequences, especially when a market is beholden to someone other than the consumer (oil = geopoliticians, banks = corporations). When that happens, democracy has been co-opted. But the US drug market fuels cartels in Central and South America which consolidates huge amounts of power and negative influence in an unstable region, so removing revenue from the sources to American growers might just be a positive consequence of regulation.

There's no easy answer, but enforcing a ban on a minor depressant doesn't seem to be any kind of answer at all.

What happens in South America would not change in my opinion, they would still be "running" other drugs and honestly, I think it would get worse. Other cultures aren't going to change, the US is now one of the larger exporters of oil, but yet it has zero effect on the price of oil.

I just find it funny and ignorant for people to just state, "make it legal, so it can be regulated" it doesn't make sense. Do I think marijuana is one of those really evil drugs, absolutely not, but I don't see the benefit to legalization either. There are a lot of studies that need to be done to change my mind. It is a drug that was categorized as one of the most severe drugs out there, deemed worse than cocaine and heroin, before any real research was completed. In the end you could be correct and the effects of it are minimal and that is great, but I need to see data.

With how many people alcohol kills a year, it does beg the question of why it is legal and some other drugs are not. Someone said it best the other day, marijuana is perceived as being so evil because smoking is bad, so it has an image problem.