Per Mike Hlas: Adam Robinson is back in DSM

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13 282 1355 7 4.8 21.7 104.

10 203 889 10 4.4 20.3 88.9



In the above scenario are 2 Rb’s The first one had 1 catch for 11 yards...the 2nd had 24 for 290…pretty comparable eh?!
 
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Section136 said:
10 backs better than ARob since I was born (1983):

Sedrick Shaw
Tavian Banks
Ladell Betts
Albert Young
Jermelle Lewis
Ronnie Harmon
Nick Bell
Fred Russell
Shonn Greene
Marcus Coker
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Lewis eh....?! Pure conjecture.....I posted his numbers in comparison including his yards per carry which is what Duff is caught up in.

Honestly I’ve stuck in here long enuff to show that it is speculative except for the clear obvious ones of which there are 6…..maybe 7 aaaannnnnd ……:D...this is just for you.....to show that I don’t really care if people don’t agree with me, as long as they aren’t being arse’s and dragging down the team and coaches…..when they do that I have things to say and then and ONLY then do I get pi$#@#y!!

 
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cmhawks99 said:
Lewis eh....?! Pure conjecture.....I posted his numbers in comparison including his yards per carry which is what Duff is caught up in.

Honestly I’ve stuck in here long enuff to show that it is speculative except for the clear obvious ones of which there are 6…..maybe 7 aaaannnnnd ……:D...this is just for you.....to show that I don’t really care if people don’t agree with me, as long as they aren’t being arse’s and dragging down the team and coaches…..when they do that I have things to say and then and ONLY then do I get pi$#@#y!!
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Just for me? Creepy Chad is creepy.
 
Section136 said:
Just for me? Creepy Chad is creepy.
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:D...I hoped you'd like that. I didn't go back and look but Im fairly certain you are the cat who tried to suggest I had issues with people disagreeing with me and I said clealry you aren't paying attention then....:cool:
 
Section136 said:
10 backs better than ARob since I was born (1983):

Sedrick Shaw
Tavian Banks
Ladell Betts
Albert Young
Jermelle Lewis
Ronnie Harmon
Nick Bell
Fred Russell
Shonn Greene
Marcus Coker
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+1 I'd even add Tony Stewart to the list as he was the career rushing leader at Iowa by the time he graduated.
 
cmhawks99 said:
:D...I hoped you'd like that. I didn't go back and look but Im fairly certain you are the cat who tried to suggest I had issues with people disagreeing with me and I said clealry you aren't paying attention then....:cool:
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No clue dude. Conversations on an anonymous message board don't mean that much to me.
 
of rbs in the kf era with >100 career carries arobs ypc is the third lowest behind only brownlee amd wegher. ypc is hardly the only metric in which to judge a rb but that alone says arob is less than solid. the only people who could think otherwise are blinded by allegiance to their team.


btw i completely pulled that out of my *** but in thimking about it i have little doubt its correct.
 
DuffMan said:
of rbs in the kf era with >100 career carries arobs ypc is the third lowest behind only brownlee amd wegher. ypc is hardly the only metric in which to judge a rb but that alone says arob is less than solid. the only people who could think otherwise are blinded by allegiance to their team.


btw i completely pulled that out of my *** but in thimking about it i have little doubt its correct.
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Ladell Betts….4.4 and AY…4.8…Arob had 4.5…..ypc is a bad metric, but hey it’s your rules, do it however you wish.

PS......this has ZERO to do with allegiance. It has to do with raw numbers....and stubborness.
 
ypc is a superior method of evaluating production provided you are comparing players that were used in similar roles and have an adequate body of work.
 
DuffMan said:
ypc is a superior method of evaluating production provided you are comparing players that were used in similar roles and have an adequate body of work.
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It’s all pretty subjective, especially when comparing 4.4, 4.5, 4.8, etc......not to mention when you toss in pass catching but again. It’s your train…drive it Casey.
 
Re: Per Mike Hlas: Adam Robinson is back

Scorpio79 said:
I became a Hawkeye in the early 1980s. I have seen several great backs play for Hayden and Kirk. AR and BW aren't on the list.
This was my only and entire point.
Have a nice evening, Chad! :)
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So from the 1980s on...let's take a look at some of those backs:

JHF Years:
--Jeff Brown (really better as a "scatback", returner, etc., but a decent RB)
--JC Love Jordan (got moved to WB/FL)
--Eddie Phillips (faster than ARob, probably not as fast as Wegher, but DID set career rushing yardage record, and his 30-yard gain on 3rd-and-29 against Illinois in 1982 may have "saved" the 1982 season from being 6-5, 5-6 or worse. Played on two 8-4 teams and a 9-3 team at the "dawn" of the The Return to Football Relevance for The University of Iowa)
--Phil Blatcher (decent during the 1981 Rose Bowl season, in stretches)
--Norm Granger (moved to FB, one of the better ones in the JHF/KF Eras)
--Owen Gill (moved to FB when Ronnie Harmon emerged, but could play RB just as well as he could play FB)
--Ronnie Harmon (pretty much the standard for the 1980s)
--Rick Bayless (very solid)
--Kevin Harmon (any shortcomings redeemed by his KOR to set table for winning FG in 1986 Holiday Bowl)
--Tony Stewart (shared time with Nick Bell, Mike Saunders, et. al., very good RB)
--Mike Saunders (very good RB)
--Nick Bell (very good-to-excellent)
--Sedrick Shaw (still all-time career rushing yardage leader, excellent RB, clearly the best of the JHF years)
--Tavian Banks (until Shonn Greene, single-season leader, excellent RB, but only really one year as "feature" back)

JHF/KF "straddle":
--Really only one, Ladell Betts (What could he have done behind a decent OL? Arguably top 2 or 3 in JHF/KF Eras)

KF Years:
--Aaron Greving (gave it up because of injury, lost that "something" after his injury)
--Fred Russell (along with Shaw, Harmon and Greene, the top rung during the JHF/KF Eras)
--Jermelle Lewis (again, what could have been...)
--Albert Young (per Russell and Lewis, the best RB they had ever seen/played alongside, how good could he have been sans injuries?)
--Damian Sims (behind AY, had explosiveness AY lacked due to injuries)
--Shonn Greene (hard to believe this guy sat behind anyone, but proof that blocking and pass-catching factor into being the number one RB)
--ARob (freshman yardage record as a redshirt, on way to 1000 yards as a soph, injuries, academics and, eventually, off-the-field issues. But to be injured against MSU in 2009, not able to go against Indiana or NW, then come back for OSU when Wegher got sick, shows how tough the kid was)
--Brandon Wegher (not nearly as fast as advertised, but athletic as heck, excellent receiving skills, had home-run skills, but baggage to the eyeballs)
--Marcus Coker (oh-what-might-have-been? Lacked top-end speed his soph year, but showed he had enough speed to get some long gains)
--Brad Rogers (almost took the 'shirt off at OSU, relegated to FB with some time at RB, heart issue, then returns to play FB. As of now, easily the best choice in most of our 1-back sets, can catch, better speed than ARob)
--McCall (let it go, people)
--De'Andre Johnson/Damon Bullock (lets hope...)

There are others I obviously missed or left out. But looking at that list, it's hard to think, when all is said and done, that EITHER ARob or BW would make any conceivable "Top Ten" list from the JHF/KF period.

NOTE* I left Dennis Mosely off the list because he came to Iowa before JHF arrived...
 
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