hawkeyebob62
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That is SEC-type thinking. They need to be gone.
Penn State Emails
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That is SEC-type thinking. They need to be gone.
hawkeyebob62
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Big East would jump at the chance to get PSU, even WITH this scandal. And the B1G definitely needs to dump them.
Section136
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Hmm, maybe some message board rumors are credible.
http://www.hawkeyenation.com/forum/football/46962-interesting-yet-disturbing-post-osu-board.html
http://www.hawkeyenation.com/forum/football/46962-interesting-yet-disturbing-post-osu-board.html
BSpringsteen
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They'd find a home, but the B1G is a different kind of animal - it's the only academic conference that also is an athletic conference. There's a certain cloak and dagger, cigar and scotch aura about the league.
It just wouldn't surprise me, and I think it would be the right thing to do. As for the money - they could replace Penn State with UVA and not miss a beat.
Of course they'd have to rebalance the leagues.
It just wouldn't surprise me, and I think it would be the right thing to do. As for the money - they could replace Penn State with UVA and not miss a beat.
Of course they'd have to rebalance the leagues.
You know what I find really sad is seeing all the PSU fans that still think after these emails that it still doesn't prove JoePa knew anything. Seriously? I saw one response on their Scout board that said "where is the cover up? It isn't like the email said don't turn him in to save the program" Can people really be this stupid?? I honestly think some PSU fans wouldn't believe any thing other than Joe coming back from the dead and saying I didn't turn him in because it would hurt the program.
big10fan
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its amazing how people will back their favorite sports or political figure, even when confronted with cold hard facts of their abuses and failings. if they love JoePa, then he can do no wrong, end of story.
1977Hawkeye
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[B said:
Why the heck not? This is the worst University scandal I can ever remember hearing about. If this isn't enough, then what is?
The whole story gets more disgusting the more I hear about it, and it's sounding more and more like it was just more than 1 or 2 people who looked the other way..
JonDMiller
Publisher/Founder
Sandusky wouldn't bring down the university. Not reporting Sandusky and conspiring to not go to the proper authorities while untold kids would be sexually molested in the future is a good reason
This.
And the fact there was a hell of a lot more talk about the crimes with the school president, AD, HC, and campus police VP (or whatever the hell his title is) then people were led to believe. That's what makes these emails so much worse, they KNEW what they were dealing with and made the decision to do nothing, the second guessing of that is even more evidence they were aware how serious this was.
FalseMirage
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Not one of these reprehensible reptiles expressed a scintilla of concern for the "guests" that Sandusky brought on campus. It also sounds like they were leaning towards notifying the proper authorities but JoePa initiated Operation PedoEnabler. Disgusting.
Disturbing e-mails could spell more trouble for Penn State officials - CNN.com
Disturbing e-mails could spell more trouble for Penn State officials - CNN.com
To kick the whole school out of the conference? Should the BCS drop the B1G because PSU was a member during the Sandusky cover up? I think it's crazy to call for such severe punishment of so many innocent teachers and students.
cmhawks99
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If legit this is very alarming and makes me feel sick & dumb for ever trying to give Joe Pa the benefit of the doubt. I had thought/hoped he had done what he thought he should, notified the proper authorities and then hoped for the best. It seems now (if I’m reading right) he was instrumental in talking them “out†of moving forward …?!?!?!? Sure wish we could have got his reasoning behind that?!
As horrible as these actions were, they are criminal in nature. Prosecute anybody and everybody that broke laws to the fullest extent of the laws. Clean house.
Start over within the administration and thruout the school.
These were failings by human beings,not the school.
The NCAA and Big Ten have different responsibilities than legal authorities.
They should let the dust settle,and then lay out their policies on these matters,but not actually penalize PSU...not part of their job in this type of a scandal.
Start over within the administration and thruout the school.
These were failings by human beings,not the school.
The NCAA and Big Ten have different responsibilities than legal authorities.
They should let the dust settle,and then lay out their policies on these matters,but not actually penalize PSU...not part of their job in this type of a scandal.
big10fan
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the NCAA brought the death penalty to Baylor B-ball for a criminal cause though. That had nothing to do with "athletic advancement" or "unfair advantage". Not saying that they should get punished like that, but it does establish a precedent.
FalseMirage
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If the report is accurate then it does indeed sound like JoePa was the one to decide that a cover up was the most "humane" way to proceed. Absolutely reprehensible, tho I don't think the entire university should be punished anymore than I think the entire German population should have been charged with war crimes after WWII. No point in holding people accountable for something they were unaware of.
cmhawks99
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I agree, that the criminals should be prosecuted, not the greater PSU faculty and institution as a whole. Now I will also add, I decided to take the time to read that excerpt and I didn’t’ read ANY supposed email by Joe Pa. Only an indication by someone, possibly Curley (didn’t go back to check) that he “spoke” with Joe and decided to go another direction…..
So that leaves a lot unsaid and it is also interesting that Joe Pa was never noted for any email interaction……so either he was smart enuff NOT to use email or he was only shallowly involved.
FalseMirage
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A spokesman for the Paterno family has said that Joe didn't use email which is easy to believe.
You are right, one of the three stooges said something to the effect that after talking to Joe and thinking it over he was uncomfortable with notifying authorities. Not exactly a smoking gun but not a stretch to include JoePa in the cover up either. His was the most influential presence on that campus for many years.
That is a funny one.
Things like the rhado incident, smaller recruiting violations, players getting in trouble are going to happen when roughly 115 teams with 100 players are involved.
But pedo state univ , if these emails prove any kind of cover up, need to have major sanctions. Tressel got fired for lying, the stupid dbag, if he tells the truth, he is still at OSU.
If the PSU people would have turned in Sandusky 20 years ago or whenever they would have been cheered as heros of the victims.
They need to learn their lessons.
