Patriots Influence On Iowa - Interesting Read.

MelroseHawkins said:
Has absolutely NOTHING to do with diversifying the offense, taking what the defense is willing to give you or detaching from emotions as a coach.

Really, you couldn't understand these three key points from reading the article? Did you even read the article? What is your point?
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Calm down guy. I was just needling for fun. Geesh!!
 
EstronHawkKing said:
Calm down guy. I was just needling for fun. Geesh!!
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Crazy Guy!!!
 
mopkins said:
You forgot the part where the owner pays asian sex traffickers for hand jobs.
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In the college equation would an AD be on par with the owner? Not sure about hand jobs, but the way he's throwing around contracts everyone seems to be getting a happy ending.
 
Similarity—both teams run Pro-Style offenses and defenses. Unfortunately for us, this is college, where pro style doesn’t succeed. So did-similar in success.
Also believe we put so many guys in NFL because of this similarity.
 
mopkins said:
The key word here is "influence". Just like the band Oasis was influenced by the Beatles. The point being that Iowa sees what New England has done (schemes, personnel, etc) and are trying to mimic that philosophy. They don't have to win 6 national titles in 17 years to be influenced by what the Patriots are doing.
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One conference SHARED title in sixteen years, not to mention that Iowa is in a division made up of teams who for DECADES were perineal losers and we have to STRUGGLE just to win the division every once in a while.

Now I seriously hope that Brian unleashes the gates of hell and puts together an offensive juggernaut. I am even willing to give him not only this season but next season to seriously cement all of his abilities, experiences, and type of players into the Iowa offense. Unfortunately I know if his offense turns to shit for the next two years there will be people on this forum who will still support him because WELL GOD ONLY KNOWS WHY.

Having said that I did like some of the improvement in the offense I saw last year. That’s why I am being patient with Brian. I can only hope his offense will exceed what we have seen over the last several years. Lickliter like in being painful to watch.
 
BigD said:
One conference SHARED title in sixteen years, not to mention that Iowa is in a division made up of teams who for DECADES were perineal losers and we have to STRUGGLE just to win the division every once in a while.

Now I seriously hope that Brian unleashes the gates of hell and puts together an offensive juggernaut. I am even willing to give him not only this season but next season to seriously cement all of his abilities, experiences, and type of players into the Iowa offense. Unfortunately I know if his offense turns to shit for the next two years there will be people on this forum who will still support him because WELL GOD ONLY KNOWS WHY.

Having said that I did like some of the improvement in the offense I saw last year. That’s why I am being patient with Brian. I can only hope his offense will exceed what we have seen over the last several years. Lickliter like in being painful to watch.
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Iowa should win the West more often. I'll never disagree with you there. If Scott Frost turns around Nebraska they might dominate the West for a decade and we'll all look back at the years Kirk should have gone to Indy 4 or 5 times and only went once.
 
mopkins said:
Iowa should win the West more often. I'll never disagree with you there. If Scott Frost turns around Nebraska they might dominate the West for a decade and we'll all look back at the years Kirk should have gone to Indy 4 or 5 times and only went once.
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I think the Greg Davis hire with the change in philosophy really set this team back and got them behind the 8 ball. I have nothing against Greg Davis but trying to intermix his systems with Kirk's just never worked. Then WR recruiting suffered after that for a few years.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
I think the Greg Davis hire with the change in philosophy really set this team back and got them behind the 8 ball. I have nothing against Greg Davis but trying to intermix his systems with Kirk's just never worked. Then WR recruiting suffered after that for a few years.
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Really hoping this is a good year for Iowa's WR's since it could be a medium/down year at TE. Would really be good for WR recruiting to see our WR's haul in some DJK/McNutt numbers.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
I think the Greg Davis hire with the change in philosophy really set this team back and got them behind the 8 ball. I have nothing against Greg Davis but trying to intermix his systems with Kirk's just never worked. Then WR recruiting suffered after that for a few years.
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It wasn't Greg Davis intermixing with Kirk that was a problem, it was Greg Davis. Even when Texas had an entire cabinet of 4 and 5 star skill players their offense sucked. The only time they had a great offense was when Vince Young was able to improvise and just take the game over.
 
okeefe4prez said:
It wasn't Greg Davis intermixing with Kirk that was a problem, it was Greg Davis. Even when Texas had an entire cabinet of 4 and 5 star skill players their offense sucked. The only time they had a great offense was when Vince Young was able to improvise and just take the game over.
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I'm saying they tried to keep part of Kirk's power run game, play action then try to correlate Davis's spread WR read option game. It just didn't jive, like putting a square thru a round hole.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
Is Iowa trying to become the New England Patriots of NCAA football? Both Ferentz's have coaching experience with Bill Belichek and Brian coached at New England, gaining experience. Who better to learn from? I found his response and explanation interesting. I think he gets it and he may actually turn out to be a damn good offense coordinator, WITH THE RIGHT INGREDIENTS!!

It sounds like the goal is to really diversify the offense, take what the defense is willing to give to you and detach from your emotions. I think the guy is getting it. I think the future looks bright, IMO.

Obviously the Hawkeyes have not been similar to the Patriots over the years, but I like the vision of playing their philosophy and how he broke down their game. This is Brian's only what like 3rd season? I think the key is him finally getting the correct players to diversify the offense and not rely on just 1 or 2 players, such as Wadley and Hockenson or Fant. I think we will see this philosophy more this year. Add into that a fullback as well.

https://www.press-citizen.com/story...brady-bill-belichick-nate-stanley/1980546001/
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I didn't know that Iowa's offensive scheme was similar to New Englands. Hmm
 
I read the article and Brian F talks the talk but I am not sure if he has it down yet. This year will be a big indicator with a SR 3 year starter at QB and a above avg support cast. Iowa under KF has never used the running back in the passing game to a big extent like New England and Brady have. The hawks have had decent slot receiver play the last few years with McCarron and Easley which is similar to what Brady likes to do. KF has almost always had great TE play.

But the big difference so far is KF and so far BF have not shown the ability to go really off schedule when the bread and butter offense isnt working. The last two years we have still seen running into 8-9 man fronts too many times. I really think the last two games against jNW are good examples of the hawks playing in Fitzie's box instead of spreading them out, attacking and making the opponent adjust. It is very frustrating to watch our play calling sometimes, many times.

I do give BF some credit in the bowl game last year as MIss State's defense was super athletic compared to our offense but BF kept mixing things up (and Miss St made some boneheaded penalties, etc).
 
uihawk82 said:
I read the article and Brian F talks the talk but I am not sure if he has it down yet. This year will be a big indicator with a SR 3 year starter at QB and a above avg support cast. Iowa under KF has never used the running back in the passing game to a big extent like New England and Brady have. The hawks have had decent slot receiver play the last few years with McCarron and Easley which is similar to what Brady likes to do. KF has almost always had great TE play.

But the big difference so far is KF and so far BF have not shown the ability to go really off schedule when the bread and butter offense isnt working. The last two years we have still seen running into 8-9 man fronts too many times. I really think the last two games against jNW are good examples of the hawks playing in Fitzie's box instead of spreading them out, attacking and making the opponent adjust. It is very frustrating to watch our play calling sometimes, many times.

I do give BF some credit in the bowl game last year as MIss State's defense was super athletic compared to our offense but BF kept mixing things up (and Miss St made some boneheaded penalties, etc).
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Now back to reality. Hawks had 11 first doens and 199 total yards of which 85 came on one play. Granted they didnt expect a small and not fast wr to do that. Neither did anyone else.
 
guffus said:
So the secret to being a good QB and coach is emotional detachment?

That must make for interesting pep talks.
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I'm pretty sure that's not what the context is but ..... whatevs ..... i get it
 
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