GhostofBTT
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My mistake. This is a totally similar situation.
Olaseni
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My mistake. This is a totally similar situation.
Gabe was not on the floor when stokes got in. and for the record Iowa was up by 13, 61-48 when Gabe came in, when Gabe came in they outscored SD 23 - 15 with Stokes and company finishing the game,
to make the final score 87-63, I don't call coming in with a lead of 13 points garbage minutes, with the way they were hitting 3's, it would take just 4 shots to make a close game out of it
but please keep trashing the kid since it makes you feel good
to make the final score 87-63, I don't call coming in with a lead of 13 points garbage minutes, with the way they were hitting 3's, it would take just 4 shots to make a close game out of it
but please keep trashing the kid since it makes you feel good
Gohawks123
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I don't think anyone is trashing the kid...just being honest. He shouldn't be playing basketball for a high major team. That's just the bottom line. If you can't see that you have no clue about basketball.
It's okay to say that too. Most high major teams have guys on the team that really shouldn't have gotten a scholarship. Olaseni is just one of those guys.
It's okay to say that too. Most high major teams have guys on the team that really shouldn't have gotten a scholarship. Olaseni is just one of those guys.
atomicblue224
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He comes once a week to pick up trash?
Benddontbreak
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He’s got high major size and athleticism, that is fairly obvious. What he doesn’t have yet is the necessary skill set/confidence to play B1G ball. With time he’ll be a serviceable big guy who can play solid d and have an occasional momentum-swinging jam.
Gohawks123
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He'll be a player that plays exclusively garbage time minutes his entire career.
Benddontbreak
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So you don’t think he’ll make any progress between now and March of 2015?
Not saying he’ll start, but Fran wouldn’t be trying to get him minutes as a soph if he’s not going to play any meaningful minutes in the future.
Gohawks123
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I know everyone is cheering for Gabe, but you got to go by the numbers here people. How often do you see a guy average 1 point and 2 rebounds in his second year turn out to be a solid contributor down the road? Keep in mind the competition Iowa has played so far minus the WSU and VaTech games have rivaled some high school teams.
I'm sure there have been times where a guy has blown up between his sophomore and senior year, but it doesn't happen too often. You can pretty much tell how good the player is going to be from the minute they arrive on campus for basketball.
I'm sure there have been times where a guy has blown up between his sophomore and senior year, but it doesn't happen too often. You can pretty much tell how good the player is going to be from the minute they arrive on campus for basketball.
tm3308
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I don't necessarily agree with this. Olaseni was known as a VERY raw talent from the beginning. If anyone can make a big leap forward, it's a guy who has a lot of the athletic tools and needs to learn the techniques, etc.
By no means do I expect to see performances like this on a consistent basis. But he's faced similarly poor competition several times this year, and didn't look anything like he did tonight. I'm not so much concerning myself with the actual production; the progress is the more important thing here, IMO.
HawkeyeHypnosis
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Garbage time or not, what I found encouraging was the comfort level he showed in a game. He hasn't looked like that at all. This was a step we were waiting to see out of him and he will be able to grow and learn from that. He will be getting some solid minutes this year.
tednugentfan
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Anything we get from Olaseni this year is a bonus. McCaffrey hyped him too much, which created unrealistic expectations. I was not a fan of the Olaseni offer, as we had (and still have) more immediate needs. Developing a guy like Olaseni is great if you can wait 2-3 years for some contributions, but we are still getting abused down low against good teams. Flashes like last night give me hope that it is more a confidence issue than completely lacking skills. He is quick to the rim, does a nice job of finding his guy and blocking out and has a nice touch. Maybe I am grasping for straws here, but our defense is still bad and blocking or altering a couple shots a game could really help.
SheagleHawk
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He's barely getting decent minutes against some of the worst teams in the country. You really think he's going to get "solid minutes" when the conference play starts in the top bball conference in the nation when Fran is trying to take the next step forward with the program? Highly doubt it. He might come in for a few mins here and there to give a breather to Woody or when in dire need due to foul troubles, but solid minutes this year he will not see. Herby's obsession with Gabe is a bit ridiculous.
HawkStrand
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I don't get it: Herb's optimism seems understandably pro-Iowa/hopeful that Oleseni really is improving, and GhostBone's pessimism seems, well, blunt--perhaps it's accurate ... But instead of a continuum (the glass is half empty/half full, but we can all agree there's bourbon in the glass), I *do* see some bashing of a teenager, here and--frankly--bashing a fellow Iowa-fan for his fanaticism. I like the Koolaid. Our impeding losses are enough curative. In the glass I see, we are headed upward. Drink up.
ssckelley
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I disagree, Fran was desperate for a big man and he was swinging and missing on most of the ones he went after in that class. If Woodbury had not signed here you would have seen a much bigger role for Olaseni. Fran is using him every chance he can get to help his development and confidence. While most players at this level have been playing basketball their entire life Olaseni first started playing 5 years ago.
SheagleHawk
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If Adam wouldn't have signed with Iowa you would've seen a relentless Fran trying to find another big man. No way would he have relied on Gabe. No way.
SirJamaLot
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Unlike some previous Hawk BB coaches players actually improve under Fran, cut Gabe some slack and hope with hard work that we have two very very tall beasts in the paint next yr! Go Hawkeyes
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ssckelley
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I don't disagree Sheagle, but even if he had signed another big man I doubt he would have had the skills of Woodbury and Olaseni may still have gotten a bigger role on this team. Had Woodbury not signed here I doubt Meyer would have redshirted.
It is a shame Olaseni was needed last year as he could have benefited from a redshirt.
It is a shame Olaseni was needed last year as he could have benefited from a redshirt.
SheagleHawk
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Agreed. Misconstrued your post; my apologies. Have you seen Meyer play at all? Did he really need the redshirt, or is Fran trying to space some guys out?
ssckelley
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Perhaps, but if he needed to space some guys out Olaseni could have benefited from the redshirt as well. But Olaseni is further along than Meyer and he will benefit from the redshirt.
