Official Release on Ingram Transferring/My thoughts

IOWA CITY, Iowa -- University of Iowa head men’s basketball coach Fran McCaffery announced today that guard Patrick Ingram (6-foot-2, 211 pounds) has asked for and has been granted his release from his scholarship to transfer to another school.

From a playing time point of view, I guess this makes sense. However, I think he wanted to be close to home as well if he wasn't going to make a big splash. He has potential as a defender. Clemmons becomes the designated guard defender.


Concerning Johnny Woodard, here's some interesting stuff I found. Woodard went to HS in Duluth.
Johnny Woodard Duluth East HS BALLERS SWAG ELITE www.myrecruitez.com - YouTube

"He [Woodard] can light it up from the 3 point line, he's a real good post player," says Duluth East head boy's basketball coach Chuck Tolo, "He can take it and score real well off the bounce, so he's got a lot of offensive weapons."
The flashy offense often overshadows Johnny's play in his own end.
Coach Tolo says, "he's probably our best defensive player."
http://www.archive.fox21online.com/...woodard-helps-end-hounds-5-year-state-drought
 
sportstalent said:
Nairn is from the same HS as Gabe I am not sure that matters any, but I would like to see Lourawls and his teammate Marvin Clark in the Black and Gold.
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I can see the reason Fran's trying to get a recruiting foothold in Chicago. But, barring that, Sunrise Academy is in the top ten programs nationally for HS BB. That would be a pretty good pipeline to have.
 
UncleHawk said:
I can see the reason Fran's trying to get a recruiting foothold in Chicago. But, barring that, Sunrise Academy is in the top ten programs nationally for HS BB. That would be a pretty good pipeline to have.
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Like UConn has had with "The Kent School" out East.
 
1st said:
David Palmer was always on Lick's "Treat like Dirt" list. As I recall, he scored 20 points in each of the two games where he got significant minutes.
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Lick did to Palmer what Mike Woodson is doing to Copeland. So afraid of them going off and making the coach look dumb that they bury them on the bench.
 
1st said:
David Palmer was always on Lick's "Treat like Dirt" list. As I recall, he scored 20 points in each of the two games where he got significant minutes.
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That is two games and I do remember those two games. There was a reason he didn't play much, he just wasn't very good, the games after his two great games were, well, showed why he was buried. He had two games: "God shines on a dog's *** every now and then."
 
sportstalent said:
That is two games and I do remember those two games. There was a reason he didn't play much, he just wasn't very good, the games after his two great games were, well, showed why he was buried. He had two games: "God shines on a dog's *** every now and then."
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Argument holds no water to me on a team that pathetic.

Half those dudes couldn't score 20 points on a highschool team.

Lick was telling people to be patient because Devin Archie was his missing piece.

He played his son more than Palmer.

Lick had no idea what he was doing.
 
hawkfan33 said:
The problem is, neither were any of the guys ahead of him.
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People toss out Lick-era aspersions like the team was a bunch of eight-year-olds, and throw real critical thinking out the window.

Cyrus Tate, Aaron Fuller and Jarryd Cole were all significantly better than David Palmer. Kurt Looby and Seth Gorney were better too.

Big Dave got ten minutes per his senior year. That was about right.
 
wundergrape said:
People toss out Lick-era aspersions like the team was a bunch of eight-year-olds, and throw real critical thinking out the window.

Cyrus Tate, Aaron Fuller and Jarryd Cole were all significantly better than David Palmer. Kurt Looby and Seth Gorney were better too.

Big Dave got ten minutes per his senior year. That was about right.
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Neither Kurt Looby or Seth Gorney were even on the team when Palmer played significant minutes his juior year, nor did Palmer play his senior year at Iowa as he transfered after his junior year so you might want to brush up on your critical thinking skills there.

Cole and Palmer put up about identical offensive ratings that year with Palmer having much higher rebounding rates 20.4% defensive rebounding rate compared to 13.7% for Cole, Cole also had an unbelievably high 27.0% TO rate that year, that is high for a pg let along a big man.

The fact that you think Fuller as a freshman was better than Palmer is also laughable. Fuller put up a Josh Ogelsbyesque 44.8% TS% that year. He shot 44% from the free throw line, 45% on two's and 29% on almost 75 3's. His offensive rating that year 84.1, which is absolutely horrible. Palmer and Cole were both right around 106 for the 2009 season.

Maybe you should refresh your memory before you post.
 
hawkfan33 said:
Neither Kurt Looby or Seth Gorney were even on the team when Palmer played significant minutes his juior year, nor did Palmer play his senior year at Iowa as he transfered after his junior year so you might want to brush up on your critical thinking skills there.

Cole and Palmer put up about identical offensive ratings that year with Palmer having much higher rebounding rates 20.4% defensive rebounding rate compared to 13.7% for Cole, Cole also had an unbelievably high 27.0% TO rate that year, that is high for a pg let along a big man.

The fact that you think Fuller as a freshman was better than Palmer is also laughable. Fuller put up a Josh Ogelsbyesque 44.8% TS% that year. He shot 44% from the free throw line, 45% on two's and 29% on almost 75 3's. His offensive rating that year 84.1, which is absolutely horrible. Palmer and Cole were both right around 106 for the 2009 season.

Maybe you should refresh your memory before you post.
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Kurt Looby and Seth Gorney were both on the team David Palmer's first year. That counts even though you don't want it to for some reason.

You're willing to concede that Jarryd Cole and David Palmer were similar statistically. Cole gets the nod for leadership skills alone, let alone the fact that he was coming off a freshman year which demonstrated a far higher level of play than David Palmer ever would. Demonstrable talent.

You play Fuller ahead of Palmer because he's a true freshman with much higher potential. I still am not willing to concede that freshman Fuller is worse than junior Palmer, statistics be damned. If statistics told the whole story, Zach McAbe would have gotten more minutes than Eric May this year.


 
We gotta get Lourawls Nairn! Can you imagine him taking the floor at the B&G Blowout with this playing?! Crowd would go nuts!

[video=youtube;AcwYEGdKto8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcwYEGdKto8[/video]
 
wundergrape said:
Kurt Looby and Seth Gorney were both on the team David Palmer's first year. That counts even though you don't want it to for some reason.

You're willing to concede that Jarryd Cole and David Palmer were similar statistically. Cole gets the nod for leadership skills alone, let alone the fact that he was coming off a freshman year which demonstrated a far higher level of play than David Palmer ever would. Demonstrable talent.

You play Fuller ahead of Palmer because he's a true freshman with much higher potential. I still am not willing to concede that freshman Fuller is worse than junior Palmer, statistics be damned. If statistics told the whole story, Zach McAbe would have gotten more minutes than Eric May this year.
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What are you talking about? May blows McCabe out of the water statistically. May was one of the most efficient players in the country this year, while McCabe was definitely out. And a freshman year Fuller was terrible, especially in an offense that has him shooting 75 3's, whether you want to admit it or not is completely besides the point.
 
hawkfan33 said:
What are you talking about? May blows McCabe out of the water statistically. May was one of the most efficient players in the country this year, while McCabe was definitely out. And a freshman year Fuller was terrible, especially in an offense that has him shooting 75 3's, whether you want to admit it or not is completely besides the point.
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So...you're only solid critiques regard two tertiary statements that have almost nothing to do with the original premise?

You're so right, Palmer should have started.
 
wundergrape said:
So...you're only solid critiques regard two tertiary statements that have almost nothing to do with the original premise?

You're so right, Palmer should have started.
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When did I say Palmer should have started? He should have played more and taken minutes away from Brommer and Fuller on the '09 team.

You're so right a graduated Gorney and Looby were blocking his playing time LOL.
 
hawkfan33 said:
What are you talking about? May blows McCabe out of the water statistically. May was one of the most efficient players in the country this year, while McCabe was definitely out. And a freshman year Fuller was terrible, especially in an offense that has him shooting 75 3's, whether you want to admit it or not is completely besides the point.
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...and beware of worshiping at the alter of efficiency stats. They're handy in an argument, but not necessarily indicative of a player's worth. If this were the case, Gabe Olaseni would get more minutes than Devyn Marble.
 
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