Notre Dame tantrum

Fryowa said:
Here's the end-all:

8 team playoff...

--Top 2 finishers in each P4

--First round is 1/2 in each conference and serves as the CCG thus killing 2 birds with one stone and not adding an additional game. No legitimate complaints because all 135 teams have a clear cut, non-ambiguous path to the playoffs. You want in, finish at least 2nd in your conference. The NFL, NBA, and MLB all have defined playoff rules, these guys are pro athletes now so no whining. No committees deciding Alabama is better than ND or vice versa.

--Keep 12 bowl games as the "official" bowls and these are not part of the CFP. That way it will still mean you're a damn good team to make one. Sorry Pop Tart fans.

--Allow each FBS team not in the playoffs to play in one game after the season. Do whatever you want as far as scheduling/location/etc. Practice as long as you want. But they're not an official Bowl Game. That keeps the vacation/band parents/spirit squad folks 100% happy.

Now...that should be enough to appease everyone, but I think what really grinds the gears of people who like 41 bowl games, is my suggestion that they not be called bowls. Is that really the hang-up? We want to say we made a bowl after a 6-6 or 5-7 season? Because that's a participation trophy the way it is now to play in the "Snoop Dogg Arizona Bowl."
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Okay, Fry. I think the root of our disagreement boils down to simple semantics.

We both agree there should be a playoff that is separate and apart from the bowl system. The best teams make the playoffs and we call their games what they are: quarters, semis, etc.

Then we have a limited number of bowl games that are in line with the power/traditional bowls that existed back when Hayden Fry was our coach. Those limited bowls are for the next tier of teams that just missed the playoffs, but still had a strong season. Generally speaking, the Top 25 gets into a bowl or gets into the CFP. Both of which are a real honor because they are elite.

Then, we can keep Pop Tarts or Pin Stripes or whatever the F these things are called today, but we just cannot call them a bowl. Calling them a "bowl"is offensive to Fry and other college football purist. I can live with that. So, we just need to come up with a different word to slap at the end of Meineke______. How about cup?

The Pop Tart Cup!
We missed out on a bowl this year, but we still made a nice Cup.
What channel is the Pin Stripe Cup on?
My God, how many Cups do they play in Orlando every year.
There are so many opt outs, not sure we could field a team for a Cup anyway.
 


hawkdrummer1 said:
A few examples...

Saturday, Dec. 13

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Cricket Celebration Bowl

South Carolina State vs. Prairie View A&M
Mercedes-Benz Stadium (Atlanta)
Noon, ABC
Thursday, Dec. 18

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Xbox Bowl

Missouri State vs. Arkansas State
Ford Center at The Star (Frisco, Texas)
9 p.m., ESPN2
Friday, Dec. 26

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GameAbove Sports Bowl

Central Michigan vs. Northwestern
Ford Field (Detroit)
1 p.m., ESPN
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SERVPRO First Responder Bowl

Florida International vs. UTSA
Gerald J. Ford Stadium (Dallas)
8 p.m., ESPN
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IMO if bowl games were to die these would be the last to go. An athlete attending Prairie View A&M does not have hopes of ever playing for the NC and very few of them have hopes of ever playing in the NFL. These bowl games are a treat for them.
 


NorthKCHawk said:
Okay, Fry. I think the root of our disagreement boils down to simple semantics.

We both agree there should be a playoff that is separate and apart from the bowl system. The best teams make the playoffs and we call their games what they are: quarters, semis, etc.

Then we have a limited number of bowl games that are in line with the power/traditional bowls that existed back when Hayden Fry was our coach. Those limited bowls are for the next tier of teams that just missed the playoffs, but still had a strong season. Generally speaking, the Top 25 gets into a bowl or gets into the CFP. Both of which are a real honor because they are elite.

Then, we can keep Pop Tarts or Pin Stripes or whatever the F these things are called today, but we just cannot call them a bowl. Calling them a "bowl"is offensive to Fry and other college football purist. I can live with that. So, we just need to come up with a different word to slap at the end of Meineke______. How about cup?

The Pop Tart Cup!
We missed out on a bowl this year, but we still made a nice Cup.
What channel is the Pin Stripe Cup on?
My God, how many Cups do they play in Orlando every year.
There are so many opt outs, not sure we could field a team for a Cup anyway.
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I'm 100% on board.

Bring back the 12 bowls, name the other 29 anything you want, we're golden.

I like "The Snoop Dogg Cup" better than "Snoop Dog Arizona Bowl."
 


ssckelley said:
IMO if bowl games were to die these would be the last to go. An athlete attending Prairie View A&M does not have hopes of ever playing for the NC and very few of them have hopes of ever playing in the NFL. These bowl games are a treat for them.
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As Flo so eloquently said years ago, "Sprinkles are for winners." Not 5-7'ers.
 


Fryowa said:
I'm 100% on board.

Bring back the 12 bowls, name the other 29 anything you want, we're golden.

I like "The Snoop Dogg Cup" better than "Snoop Dog Arizona Bowl."
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The derivation for "Bowl" comes from the Rose Bowl. They started calling the game at the Rose Bowl the Rose Bowl, and apparently, the other bowls formed and just tacked on "Bowl" to their names. Weird. So, the term is really stadium related. But, Pop Tart Stadium just doesn't ring. I also like cup because a cup and a bowl both hold liquid.

Interesting fact, Lamar Hunt of the Chiefs coined the term "Super Bowl."
Jackie Moon of the Flint Michigan Tropics coined the term "Flint Michigan Mega Bowl."
 


NorthKCHawk said:
The derivation for "Bowl" comes from the Rose Bowl. They started calling the game at the Rose Bowl the Rose Bowl, and apparently, the other bowls formed and just tacked on "Bowl" to their names. Weird. So, the term is really stadium related. But, Pop Tart Stadium just doesn't ring. I also like cup because a cup and a bowl both hold liquid.

Interesting fact, Lamar Hunt of the Chiefs coined the term "Super Bowl."
Jackie Moon of the Flint Michigan Tropics coined the term "Flint Michigan Mega Bowl."
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Call it the "Tournament of Cheez-Its"

Call it the "Wasabi Fenway Smackdown"

Call it the "Tony the Tiger Shootout"

Just don't call them bowls. Keep at least something sacred in this world.
 


NorthKCHawk said:
Interesting fact, Lamar Hunt of the Chiefs coined the term "Super Bowl."
Jackie Moon of the Flint Michigan Tropics coined the term "Flint Michigan Mega Bowl."
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The university of nebraska-lincoln adapted the use of the term "Super Bowl" to it's annual Black Friday game.
 




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