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NIL-fueled quarterback market heading to seven figure neighborhood

Through conversations with NIL agents, On3 has been able to piece together what the top quarterback prospects will be making.
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“I do think that the numbers probably get more inflated by recruiting hype and their name rather than talent,” a Pac-12 collective operator told On3. “If you’re really talking about talent, you shouldn’t be paying that much until they’re on campus, and they’re the starting quarterback. Values get inflated because of the competition — you’re trying to beat somebody else out. You’re trying to make a splash.


“The quarterback is the center of attention. You’re paying more for more than just his ability on the field. You’re paying for his name and what it means for your class.”
 
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How can this be sustainable? In the NFL, owners have to pay but they also have a revenue stream. Boosters don't get cash back in return. Its a one-way financial transaction with a collecitve.
 
Casey388 said:
Wonder how this works with these boosters and using this as some form of tax write-off.
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Basically a million dollar donation to a non profit charity would cost a really rich person $600,000 in the end.

All to have access to BF.
 
NCHawker said:
How can this be sustainable? In the NFL, owners have to pay but they also have a revenue stream. Boosters don't get cash back in return. Its a one-way financial transaction with a collecitve.
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College is different.

Boosters have always donated millions and have never gotten a return. The only thing changing is the recipient.

Boosters aren’t NFL owners looking for a return. They’re a special subclass of people who want the world to know how rich they are, have their name on buildings, and to be able to rub elbows with coaches and administrators who have to begrudgingly act like their friends.

In other words, they’re buying what they perceive to be their own importance. They’re buying a feeling to make up for whatever kind of inadequacy makes you write checks for millions of bucks to get to ride on team planes with players and coaches who think you and your wife are total weirdos (looking at you, Brent Feller).

That feeling of importance is their return on investment. And the more NIL takes off, the more money they’re going to donate to keep up.
 
Fryowa said:
College is different.

Boosters have always donated millions and have never gotten a return. The only thing changing is the recipient.

Boosters aren’t NFL owners looking for a return. They’re a special subclass of people who want the world to know how rich they are, have their name on buildings, and to be able to rub elbows with coaches and administrators who have to begrudgingly act like their friends.

In other words, they’re buying what they perceive to be their own importance. They’re buying a feeling to make up for whatever kind of inadequacy makes you write checks for millions of bucks to get to ride on team planes with players and coaches who think you and your wife are total weirdos (looking at you, Brent Feller).

That feeling of importance is their return on investment. And the more NIL takes off, the more money they’re going to donate to keep up.
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Now you’re on a roll. So we disagree all day yesterday and today we agree, weird.

Spot on!
 
Fryowa said:
College is different.

Boosters have always donated millions and have never gotten a return. The only thing changing is the recipient.

Boosters aren’t NFL owners looking for a return. They’re a special subclass of people who want the world to know how rich they are, have their name on buildings, and to be able to rub elbows with coaches and administrators who have to begrudgingly act like their friends.

In other words, they’re buying what they perceive to be their own importance. They’re buying a feeling to make up for whatever kind of inadequacy makes you write checks for millions of bucks to get to ride on team planes with players and coaches who think you and your wife are total weirdos (looking at you, Brent Feller).

That feeling of importance is their return on investment. And the more NIL takes off, the more money they’re going to donate to keep up.
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I know, I understand what you're saying. But the $$ are getting bigger, the bidding is getting more publicity and its causing inflation... I just have to think there will be a market adjustment. Or maybe one shcool's collective goes all in year 1 and 2 then step aback year 3 and it cycles up and down but somebody is always bidding high. who knows
 
Fryowa said:
College is different.

Boosters have always donated millions and have never gotten a return. The only thing changing is the recipient.

Boosters aren’t NFL owners looking for a return. They’re a special subclass of people who want the world to know how rich they are, have their name on buildings, and to be able to rub elbows with coaches and administrators who have to begrudgingly act like their friends.

In other words, they’re buying what they perceive to be their own importance. They’re buying a feeling to make up for whatever kind of inadequacy makes you write checks for millions of bucks to get to ride on team planes with players and coaches who think you and your wife are total weirdos (looking at you, Brent Feller).

That feeling of importance is their return on investment. And the more NIL takes off, the more money they’re going to donate to keep up.
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Wow. Sometimes your judgements about people reflect your view that you understand their motives and behaviors. Good luck with that Assumption. I know or am actually related to a significant number of wealthy individuals. For the most part, they are everyday people living their lives and frequently doing a lot of good with their wealth. Has it occurred to you that many of these boosters are simply enjoying helping others?
 
I'm wondering if the secondary / used car / portal is more economical than paying for a blue chip player out of HS. Generally - not the top 5-10 players
 
NCHawker said:
I know, I understand what you're saying. But the $$ are getting bigger, the bidding is getting more publicity and its causing inflation... I just have to think there will be a market adjustment. Or maybe one shcool's collective goes all in year 1 and 2 then step aback year 3 and it cycles up and down but somebody is always bidding high. who knows
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This is still pretty new. I have a feeling that once it gets more settled, the market will adjust. In other words, nobody is going to want to shell out $1.0 M for a QB who never sees the field. And that will likely happen. This whole thing could reset at much lower levels once there is some history behind it.
 
HuckFinn said:
Wow. Sometimes your judgements about people reflect your view that you understand their motives and behaviors. Good luck with that Assumption. I know or am actually related to a significant number of wealthy individuals. For the most part, they are everyday people living their lives and frequently doing a lot of good with their wealth. Has it occurred to you that many of these boosters are simply enjoying helping others?
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I work with a lot of wealthy people. They are just like anyone else for the most part. No more or no less benevolent than the next. Statistically, they give less as a percentage than the poor though. As a group though they seem to not be as sensitive as "normal" people as to what others think.

Many of them inherited some degree of wealth and invested in real estate or some business that did very well.

The ones I know that donate to U IL sports generally are a lot like Fry described. I hated going to fundraisers with my job as I just didn't care for the attitudes of the sports booster types. Generally polite, a bit snobish, and quite wanting to be in the know/rubbing shoulders. I have no clue about Iowa donors.

At one meeting, Wayne Laravie was the guest spe but attendees were so wanting to be around coaches, no one approached Wayne and he was eating by himself. I approached him and smiled. He invited me to sit and we had a nice conversation. Talked family. Seemed a bit shy away from the microphone.

Laravie actually did some Iowa games in the late 70s.... poor guy before Fry I think.

Both you and Fry are a bit off in your analysis. Donors get their returns from being important to some degree. They are a bit different. So are coaches.

Coaches are the same way...again a lot like normal people but some nice some not so nice.

I used to run a youth BB camp. Lou Henson would come and watch his grand child. Never did I see hm waiver from showing himself a real gentleman. I coached in soccer one of Ron Turner's kids. That family was so down to earth and anyone would feel comfortable. They'd cheer, get nervous and so on with the parent thing. Btw, their kid wasn't very good. Great family. Greg Landry would sit with parents at HS basketball games and get into like anyone else. Groce I got to meet a number of times and really made me feel welcome... he was a bit insecure in his demeanor. Became friends with an Asst IL BB coach who became my assistant. Favorite coach ever behind Lute and Fry. I have also had a work related lunch with a close relative of Lute. Just like Lute. Looked like him and very personable. Personally know John Beilein's family pretty well and he acknowledged
my writing that included his WW2 hero uncle. He didn't have to do that given it was Final 4 week.

I did try and get several Illini basketball players to visit a dying teenager that I was assisting the family with. They kid loved the Illini and would replay games all night long. I would think he was asleep and turn it off and he'd perk right up. The players were excited about it. The end was near and it was Big Tourney week. Weber said they couldn't come to fill the kid's wishes. Right after the tourney a former player assistant coach called me to say they could come and was arranging things. The boy passed several hours before the call.

Coaches and donors are humans just like the rest of us.
 
Fryowa said:
What a quaint idea. If it makes you feel all warm and squishy inside to believe it, knock yourself out.
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Nothing quaint about it. Point being that you often state your assumptions as facts, which is out of bounds. Warm? Squishy? Get a life.
 
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