next years expectations

[HawkForce]

I think we go undefeated

I think we will be so undefeated they will give us back wins for this year too.

 

[HawkForce]

Herby, we are all excited to see the incoming class and what they bring next year. But you go a little overboard when you say you EXPECT 20 wins and to go to the dance. Relax man, things are turning around. It might happen next year but I wouldn't expect it.

 

[sportstalent]

My expectation: Iowa to the NCAA tourney, Oglesby averages 13 ppg and is a major factor in Iowa's tourney push.
Iowa finishes 5th in conference and places two on the all-frosh team...not who you expect.
With a viable bench and emergence of Oglesby, Iowa surprises many people and makes the tourney without question.
Basabe is an all-conference performer, not because of who is playing next to him, but because he makes a real dedication to becoming a player that doesn't have to rely on five good things happening right away for him to have a complete game. Basabe gets one reliable post move and is in the top three in rebounding in the league.
Marble becomes a very reliable outside shooter and gains 15 lbs in the offseason.
White gets stronger and can play more minutes, but his numbers stay about the same, except he plays much better on the defensive end.

How are those for expectations?
In all honestly, I don't see any of those as unrealistic...bring on the bashers

 

[EddyP]

My expectation: Iowa to the NCAA tourney, Oglesby averages 13 ppg and is a major factor in Iowa's tourney push.
Iowa finishes 5th in conference and places two on the all-frosh team...not who you expect.
With a viable bench and emergence of Oglesby, Iowa surprises many people and makes the tourney without question.
Basabe is an all-conference performer, not because of who is playing next to him, but because he makes a real dedication to becoming a player that doesn't have to rely on five good things happening right away for him to have a complete game. Basabe gets one reliable post move and is in the top three in rebounding in the league.
Marble becomes a very reliable outside shooter and gains 15 lbs in the offseason.
White gets stronger and can play more minutes, but his numbers stay about the same, except he plays much better on the defensive end.

How are those for expectations?
In all honestly, I don't see any of those as unrealistic...bring on the bashers

 

[BILLBUCKNER]

I think we'll finish in the top half of the Big10. From there on,we'll battle for top finishes. I believe our days as cellar dweller are over. Can you imagine what a player White is going to be when he's a JR...SR? Marble..Gessell..Woodbury?? The future is bright indeed.

 

[atomicblue224]

why didnt i think of that? smack my forehead! damn you guys smarter than me! herby smarter than me!

 

[bcl20]

Big Ten Champs. The streak is ending next year.

 

[jacknicholson]

And if my aunt had balls, she's probably have a smaller mustache.

And Bob's your uncle.....

 

[rjhindm]

your point, other than the point at the top of your head, and that the fact you can come up with nothing constructive to add

And your point, is that if we go back and change a bunch of our losses to wins, then we would have a better record.HUUUURRRRRRRRRRBY

It's true though...if we would have won more...our record would be better.

 

[jacknicholson]

if my grandma has balls she `ll make leonard nimoy cry

 

[Cosity82]

The future is bright indeed, but I don't know about the immediate future. Next year I think will have its ups and downs. I think 20 wins in the regular season is reasonable, making them a legit bubble team. I think that's a realistic expectation. The reason I don't go 20+ and the tourney is the inconsistency the team still shows at times and the loss of Gatens. I think the inconsistency begins to go away with experience but the team will still be very young next year and we lose our most consistent, experienced and talented player. But after that look out, especially if Fran can keep pulling in the recruits.

 

[jacknicholson]

My expectation: Iowa to the NCAA tourney, Oglesby averages 13 ppg and is a major factor in Iowa's tourney push.
Iowa finishes 5th in conference and places two on the all-frosh team...not who you expect.
With a viable bench and emergence of Oglesby, Iowa surprises many people and makes the tourney without question.
Basabe is an all-conference performer, not because of who is playing next to him, but because he makes a real dedication to becoming a player that doesn't have to rely on five good things happening right away for him to have a complete game. Basabe gets one reliable post move and is in the top three in rebounding in the league.
Marble becomes a very reliable outside shooter and gains 15 lbs in the offseason.
White gets stronger and can play more minutes, but his numbers stay about the same, except he plays much better on the defensive end.

How are those for expectations?
In all honestly, I don't see any of those as unrealistic...bring on the bashers

I believe 20 wins and an invite to the Dance is very possible next season.....

 

[hawkeyescott]

Some will depend on how the big10 schedule lays out for you. This year's was pretty favorable.

It is the same next year with Iowa only playing Mich St, OSU, Michigan and Illinois once with MSU and Illinois at home and at Michigan and OSU.

So I think next years team can win 20 games and make the NCAA because they will have no excuse losing to teams like Clemson and Campbell next year.

 

[hawkjunkie]

That is a very favorable schedule. I will take it!

 

[ssckelley]

How about an Indiana like turn around next season? Can Woodbury and Gesell do for Iowa what Zeller did for Indiana?

 

[VAHawkFan]

Freshmen are always a huge unknown and we're going to have at least 5 of them getting time. Over 40% of our team will be first year players. Add in Olesani who won't see his first significant minutes until next year and that's a whole lotta inexperience. I see a lot of uncertainty and potentially a lot of inconsistency in that.

Simply because of all the youth I don't anticipate a huge improvement in the "wins" column. I'm predicting a 17 - 18 win regular season and a definite post-season berth...but not the NCAA's.

 

[ColumbusHawk]

The future is bright indeed, but I don't know about the immediate future. Next year I think will have its ups and downs. I think 20 wins in the regular season is reasonable, making them a legit bubble team. I think that's a realistic expectation. The reason I don't go 20+ and the tourney is the inconsistency the team still shows at times and the loss of Gatens. I think the inconsistency begins to go away with experience but the team will still be very young next year and we lose our most consistent, experienced and talented player. But after that look out, especially if Fran can keep pulling in the recruits.

Couldn't agree more. Even if Gesell is the scond coming of Ronnie Lester, I think many people are expecting too much of him for next year.

An 18-game Big Ten schedule is brutal for first year players. Their performance tends to vary greatly, particularly on the road. A 10-8 conference record would be excellent next year.

Take care of business during the non-conference schedule & 20 victories is a possibility. The unknown is the non-conference schedule. Fran wants to upgrade the schedule. A serious upgrade could hurt.

 

[JHHawk]

Herbie,you were absolutely certain that Gabe was going to average a double-double this year. He barely played. Does that not give you slight pause before getting too certain about frosh being instant studs?

Zeller and Burke were ranked about #12 and #90 in the nation respectively,but probably will end up as co-frosh of the year. You never know how a player will fit into their team...if Darius Morris had stayed at Michigan, Burke probably plays less than half the minutes he did.
No one was really worried about replacing Jarryd Cole last year,but his absence definitely adversely affected Melsahn,and we had a big hole there this year.
I thought Brommer might step up,but no.

We have about the 4th rated recruiting class in the league next year. IU has a top five class,but return a lot of players,so maybe they will not get the boost that Zeller game them. I look for Yogi Ferrell,top 30 player,a pg, to start right away and be dynamite,probably.
Purdue,MSU,and Michigan all have some great frosh coming in. Are we locks to finish ahead of them? Not likely.

My early projection is between 17-21 wins,on the bubble of the NCAA, with a .500 record in the league,but a better non-conference record.

 

[RocknRollface]

Basabe is an all-conference performer, not because of who is playing next to him, but because he makes a real dedication to becoming a player that doesn't have to rely on five good things happening right away for him to have a complete game. Basabe gets one reliable post move and is in the top three in rebounding in the league.

Basabe does have a decent jump hook that goes in at a pretty high clip.

There are three big problems with his post up game right now.

The first is that Iowas guards, other that Ogelsby, are awful at feeding the post. Gatens is a good, sometimes great shooter, but has terrible vision as a passer, Marble is not much better.

The second is that he is being guarded by bigger centers who can displace him to easily.

Third and probably most important is that he has no feel for passing himself. Hes not a threat to find the open man so he is easily doubled. This is what has pretty much neutralized him this year.

He has to figure out how to make teams pay when they double. Of course he probably feels he will not get the ball back if he passes out, which comes back to Iowa inability to feed the post.

There is just allot of simple stuff this team is not very good at.

 

[hawkIhoops]

For this season to have gone as favorably as some predicted, we needed big years from Basabe and Cartwright, improvement from McCabe, May and Brommer and contributions from White and Oglesby. We got some, but not all, of the above and the positives could not outweigh the negatives based on what we thought Cartwright and Basabe could do.

We will have more athletic bodies next year, giving us a larger margin for error if a couple guys need an adjustment period, get injured, slumps, etc.