GotTimDodge
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There were 2 no calls on Hawks go ahead TD.
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There were 2 no calls on Hawks go ahead TD.
GotTimDodge
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Watch Iowa's last TD.
Groeneweg grabs and pretty much tackles their safety.
B. Smith blocks DB waaay before ball is thrown.
Both fouls. And both in front of a ref.
Good point. Rewatched it. Easley is clearly downfield, across the LOS. Both blockers are fully engaged while the ball is in the air. When watching this play live, I was ecstatic with the blocking and execution. But this is really strange play design. Should be a foul
That receiver of theirs dropping the TD and handing it to Gervase pretty much was just fluky and nuts. If he catches that it's hard telling how the game goes the rest of the way. I think there was 8 mins or so left at that point. Something I never saw mentioned really on their end of things was how they burned 2 of their TOs early in the 3rd q... How the last few mins played out may have been different if they could have had those still.
The penalty discrepancy was what it was. I don't remember any close tacky calls going against either team. The ones called on them seemed obvious to me. I did see where they thought the block Groenewig had on their safety during Easleys 2nd td was holding.... Pff he pancaked him. That was textbook and they'll be cheering him for it ever time they show it on film. And Smiths block he ran his guy 3 yards deep in the endzone on it. I think their secondary needs to get in the weight room this off season is what I think...
The penalty discrepancy was what it was. I don't remember any close tacky calls going against either team. The ones called on them seemed obvious to me. I did see where they thought the block Groenewig had on their safety during Easleys 2nd td was holding.... Pff he pancaked him. That was textbook and they'll be cheering him for it ever time they show it on film. And Smiths block he ran his guy 3 yards deep in the endzone on it. I think their secondary needs to get in the weight room this off season is what I think...
Knight78
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Watch it again. When Easley makes the catch, he is behind the LOS. Blockers can engage before the reception when the pass is behind the LOS. As far as the comment from @GotTimDodge about Groeneweg, if you block someone who is not ready to be blocked (like the safety guarding him was) the person being blocked typically ends up with their seat on the ground. That's what happened. No tackling, no holding. Just put the safety to the ground and fell on him to keep him there.
GotTimDodge
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Oh nice catch!
It does look at least on the LOS.
Still, if you want to call Groeneweg grabbing the safety with his left arm and literally tackling a block, you can.
Then again, that stuff happens often I'm sure. You could argue so many blocks.
If we were holding we were terrible at it.
Correct.
No different than any other turnover. They happen. Some happened to us and some happened to them. Basically that one and Stanley's pick 6 were a wash.
Not sure what you're looking at. But either way it's close and a gray area in the rules that's not going to get called all that often. I'm more interested in the fact that this play (from this formation) is setup this way, as opposed to in the bubble screen format. I like this format because a dropped pass is incomplete and not a fumble and because Iowa already shows the bubble concept quite a bit, so this mixes it up.
Statistically - a wash. But this is the difference between a turnover and a takeaway. Their DB jumped that route and made a great play. Their WR handed us an interception.
ssckelley
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Iowa probably should have gotten flagged for holding on that last touchdown, number 14 practically tackled the defender before Easley had the ball.
ssckelley
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Watch that play again. Someone on here (edit: 99TopDawg) pointed it out that the ball had gotten tipped (I missed that watching the game live). So the ball went from his right shoulder, where he was in position to catch it, to his left and had very little reaction time to adjust.
Gotta give the Iowa defense some credit there, without the tip Guidry easily makes that catch. I'm not saying he couldn't have caught it but the play was more difficult that I originally thought.
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To me no different as NS gifted them one staring at his receiver and throwing to triple coverage. JG was in the right spot to pick the ball. And I believe someone stated GS had slightly tipped the ball but I haven't rewatched to see if that was the case.
MelroseHawkins
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judzeehawk
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Maybe because msu blew by our oline so fast we didn't have time to hold?
judzeehawk
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Can you please explain to me why Iowa fans are trying to find penalties on Iowa? This board is way to politically correct. Hawks took it to those cocky asshats and msu couldn't handle it. Just look at all the firsts that msu gave up. Just maybe it's because the Hawks were BETTER than msu. As far as those clown fans are concerened they are jealous as hell because they lost to a Pac 12 team and we beat a secpn team. Oh yeah we even beat those stinking clowns! So here's to you clowns!
ShockHawk22
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Their freak turnover equaled ISMs turn over. Neither defense did anything to deserve the ball. Both times it just landed in their lap.
