MJ is LeBron's *****.

DJL said:
This is such a ridiculous arguement right now. Maybe someday Lebron can get there. He is the best basketball athlete I've ever seen. But nobody wanted it more than Jordan. He made everyone better around him. Hell, he commanded them to be better. How good was Pippen without Jordan, was he a top 50 all time player? I don't think so.
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Without Jordan ('93-'94), Pippen became the first player in NBA history to lead his team in scoring, rebouding, assists, blocks, and steals in the same season, a feat that has since been matched by KG and LeBron. In that same season, after losing the best player in the game, Pippen led the Bulls to 55 wins and the East's #3 seed. (IMHO, the '93-'94 season is the biggest reason people should NOT use the "6 rings" argument for Jordan. Yes, 6 rings is impressive, but those Bulls teams had some great talent, even without MJ.)
 
Makavelihawk said:
Ive seen MJ milk way too many cows on the court during playoff games.

See how easy it is to make stuff up that is completely false?

Lebron's stat line in the game that he "gave up" against the Celtics:

27 pts 19 reb. 10 assists
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Game 6, 2009 playoffs, against Orlando. Lebron proved he could score at will. He could. He then passed it on every possession in the 4th. Stats don't mean everything. I know he can score all game, but he didn't. He scored 4 pts in the 4th quarter, with 3 of those being in a meaningless final minute in which they were down 15.

See how easy it is to NOT make up something?

DERP. You lose.

Never once did I say he wasn't dominating. He is. He is the best player I have ever seen. But mentally, he has lacked. He is showing it is getting better, but it wasn't there before. Jordan was a different person all together. He was borderline insane.
 
Game 5, 2010 vs Boston. 5 pts in the 2nd half of a blowout loss.

I'm not saying he can't develop that toughness, but it isn't there yet. We saw some of it in the Olympics and I hope to see more of that for the next 6-7 years. Will be fun to watch him.
 
DuffMan said:
My position is, and always has been, LBJ is clearly a better player than MJ. I'm not backing down from anything.

He's also arguably the greatest athlete the world has ever seen.
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I think you are confusing the most athletic person as being the best athlete.

I understand how you can confuse the two.......On behalf of the following, I will accept your apology:

Bo Jackson
Deon Sanders

Other good professionals that played at the D1 level in another sport
Todd Helton
Kenny Lofton
Julius Peppers
Tony Gonzalez
Jackie Robinson

Other 2 sport athletes
Jim Brown
Jim Thorpe
Danny Ainge
Wilt Chamberlain
Bobby Hayes ('64 gold medal winner and Cowboys receiver)
Herschel Walker
 
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Makavelihawk said:
Ive seen MJ milk way too many cows on the court during playoff games.

See how easy it is to make stuff up that is completely false?

Lebron's stat line in the game that he "gave up" against the Celtics:

27 pts 19 reb. 10 assists
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The game people think LeBron quit against the Celtics was the game before that.
 
Is this thread really still going?

Maybe we can argue that RGIII is better than Joe Montana next.
 
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DuffMan said:
LeBron just put six games together unlike the NBA will ever see again. It's not even close anymoar, LeBron is clearly superior to MJ in every facet of the game. It's almost unreal.
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Bwah talk about stupid comment, MJ would make LeBron Cry!
 
thejumper5 said:
Without Jordan ('93-'94), Pippen became the first player in NBA history to lead his team in scoring, rebouding, assists, blocks, and steals in the same season, a feat that has since been matched by KG and LeBron. In that same season, after losing the best player in the game, Pippen led the Bulls to 55 wins and the East's #3 seed. (IMHO, the '93-'94 season is the biggest reason people should NOT use the "6 rings" argument for Jordan. Yes, 6 rings is impressive, but those Bulls teams had some great talent, even without MJ.)
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How many rings did the Bulls win in '93-'94?

Miami this year without James would win at least 55 games. So What?
 
theboat said:
How many rings did the Bulls win in '93-'94?

Miami this year without James would win at least 55 games. So What?
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Miami without LeBron would come nowhere close to 55 games, that is ridiculous. They have absolutely no depth and LeBron covers up so many holes in that team. They are probably a 40-45 win team tops without Lebron.
 
hawkfan33 said:
Miami without LeBron would come nowhere close to 55 games, that is ridiculous. They have absolutely no depth and LeBron covers up so many holes in that team. They are probably a 40-45 win team tops without Lebron.
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The Miami team this year without Lebron is pretty comparable to the team that Wade carried to a championship on his own.
 
theboat said:
The Miami team this year without Lebron is pretty comparable to the team that Wade carried to a championship on his own.
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Too bad Wade isn't close to what he was in '06. Not to mention that team had pretty decent depth, especially with big guys.
 
hawkfan33 said:
Too bad Wade isn't close to what he was in '06. Not to mention that team had pretty decent depth, especially with big guys.
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That team had a bunch of old guys past their prime and Wade.

It doesn't really matter. Jordan>>>>Lebron and it isn't close.
 
DuffMan said:
LeBron just put six games together unlike the NBA will ever see again. It's not even close anymoar, LeBron is clearly superior to MJ in every facet of the game. It's almost unreal.
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I feel better now
 
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