deanvogs
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Well in his defense he has gone 8-0 in conference play 2 different times. Can't do any better than that.
Miller in full apologist mode on Twitter right now
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Well in his defense he has gone 8-0 in conference play 2 different times. Can't do any better than that.
Tell me again how both those seasons ended. Oh that's right, we got our asses blown out on national television by two teams with worse records than us heading in to the game. Both games over at half time. Great season though.
He is more holier than thou and thus doesn't geteth upset with Iowa football and savior Ferentz anymore.
It gets tiring to hear and it's one of the reasons Iowa football is where it is. We consider 8 wins at Iowa a rousing success. That's why this program will never reach the level of a Wisconsin for the next 10 years.
deanvogs
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What does that have to do with winning the B1G? You think KF is the first coach to get blown out after winning the B1G? LOL man, Hayden got outscored 119-62 in his Rose Bowl appearances. Does that take away from his conference titles? You gonna rip on him for those games?
Can't even compare the two.
STLhawkeye20
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I really like Miller's commentary. I find it insightful and credible 99% of the time. The one thing that bugs me is his refusal to adamantly criticize or even discuss Ferentz' egregious contract. He always uses the argument that discussing it doesn't matter since it's done and won't lead to anything - but the logic of that argument means that his commentary in general is pointless. It's just as pointless to discuss predictions, criticisms of what went wrong in a game, or basically anything else. This is the sports word we're talking about. That's the beauty of being in a community like this - you can talk about whatever the hell you want. It doesn't have to have a point.
deanvogs
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Obviously you don't want to talk about that. Lots of other B1G champion coaches beside Hayden and Ferentz have gotten smoked in Bowl games. It is irrelevant to winning the B1G, you know it, and that is why you STFU on this.
HawkPrdatr40
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This season was a 10-2 Season anyone saying differently IMO is wrong. If Iowa finished 10-2 with Losses against Wisconsin and Penn State (make it a game) that would have been tolerable..
8-4 with home loses against NDSU, Northwestern, Wisconsin and destroyed on the road at PSU rather is ho hum in my mind. Was a very good finish to close the season.. I'm 47 and this was one of the most frustrating seasons because I fully expected Iowa to be in Indy..
8-4 with home loses against NDSU, Northwestern, Wisconsin and destroyed on the road at PSU rather is ho hum in my mind. Was a very good finish to close the season.. I'm 47 and this was one of the most frustrating seasons because I fully expected Iowa to be in Indy..
It When we had our best wr and our best te healthy, we lost to 2 pretty weak teams. But then without them we beat a really good team so I don't think you can blame those losses on a bad passing game.
Expectations aside, we should have never lost those two early games. But since our schedule ended up tougher than anticipated, we were probably close to a wash as far as finishing where we should have. Maybe one game shy of a wash. It's really not a big deal to finish one game shy of a wash tho. I'm just really tired of watching us piss away games against bad teams.
Expectations aside, we should have never lost those two early games. But since our schedule ended up tougher than anticipated, we were probably close to a wash as far as finishing where we should have. Maybe one game shy of a wash. It's really not a big deal to finish one game shy of a wash tho. I'm just really tired of watching us piss away games against bad teams.
If we lost 3 close games to Wisconsin, Penn State, and Michigan, with blowout wins against ISU and Nebraska, it would have been a fine season.
deanvogs
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How is this season better without a win over Michigan? That would be like saying that '08 would have been better if we lost to Penn St., but beat Pitt???
I wouldn't trade that win for a NDSU, not in a million years. I was at both, and losing to NDSU sucked ass, and there is no way that losing to Michigan would have felt bad at all. The flip side though is that beating NDSU would have been no big deal, a yawner for sure......yet beating Michigan the way we did after losing to Penn St. the way we did was priceless man.
I'm not saying that win made the season, I'm just saying I'll remember that win way longer than I would have remembered a win over NDSU.
SpecialKHawk
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This was an a great 3 game finish that finally looked like Iowa football but I cannot get over the thought of where the heck was that for the other 75% of the season? Do not give me ISU either because they were a discombobulated mess when they rolled into Iowa City. Not sure we even played tremendous football that night.
I cannot and will not excuse the NDSU & NW losses at home. To not be prepared mentally to play them after you know this was a bowl game and highlight of the season for them? The NW loss was just maddening as they are not very good and we had absolutely crushed them the previous 2 meetings.
The effort level and play against Wisky felt like we played scared the whole game. That was disappointing too.
I figured 9-3 before the season so we got one of the 2 bad losses back by unexpectedly beating Michigan.
A bowl win is an absolute must though to cap this season with a top 25 ranking and a satisfying feeling.
I cannot and will not excuse the NDSU & NW losses at home. To not be prepared mentally to play them after you know this was a bowl game and highlight of the season for them? The NW loss was just maddening as they are not very good and we had absolutely crushed them the previous 2 meetings.
The effort level and play against Wisky felt like we played scared the whole game. That was disappointing too.
I figured 9-3 before the season so we got one of the 2 bad losses back by unexpectedly beating Michigan.
A bowl win is an absolute must though to cap this season with a top 25 ranking and a satisfying feeling.
deanvogs
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A bowl win and a top 20 ranking will really piss off a lot of people around here......some would be happier if Iowa loses the Bowl game so they can declare this season a complete and utter failure....
That wasn't directed at you K or saying you think this, just used the post to make a this point.
Oh and as JD says, if you are pissed because you think this post is about you........then it is about you.
HawkPrdatr40
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So are you saying it wouldn't have been a fine season to have lost only to Wisconsin, Penn State and Michigan? That's what PC said and I would agree that would have been okay to classify it a fine season.
deanvogs
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Well I'll always consider a 8 win regular season a good season, but yeah I would say this season will be more memorable with the way we finished over Michigan and Nebraska.
I wasn't saying it would be better. That was my rebuttal to him saying we needed a 10-2 season. Then I said that 9-3 outcome would have been "fine".
Even if that is what I meant tho, your response wasn't accurate. You would have to swap the Michigan win for the NDSU and the Northwestern losses to get to 9-3.
If we were pre season number 1 and had last year's schedule you would?
deanvogs
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I'm gonna have to stick with ya, I would think it is a good season.
Don't get me wrong, you can be disappointed with a good season......but it still doesn't mean it wasn't a good season.
I'm not jumping up and down for joy for this season, I was right with everyone else thinking 9-3 and possibly 10-2. I'm just saying that 8 wins (and now with a 9 game B1G schedule) is a good season, it just is. Not outstanding, not excellent, but good.
You really should claim the victories life gives you -- even if they are ties. You would accept an individual gold medal if you tied with another person, right?
For most of Ferentz's tenure, he's not had the opportunity to settle every season on the field. Within the rules of the game, he's won conference titles. Those other teams could have shared a conference title as much as Iowa during that time. They didn't, right?
Take gifts when you get them. Win when you can.
ATLHawkeye
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At the end of the day these are just opinions, not something to get upset about. Jon has his opinions and is entitled to them. Here's mine. I knew this year would be a lot tougher than last year simply because of the tougher schedule. I figured we would lose to Michigan, so winning that one is a plus. Penn State and Wisconsin are much better than most expected, so those are surprises, but certainly not bad losses. However, we absolutely positively should not have lost to NDSU or Northwestern. Two bad losses is disappointing for sure. Throw those bad losses out and it would have been a very good year. As it is, and with the way they finished, 8-4 isn't the end of the world.
