Miller in full apologist mode on Twitter right now

[PCHawk]

--------It shouldn't be that way? Why? They both have bigger recruiting bases in their home state? Their facilities and fan bases appear to be on a par with ours. They have both had excellent coaching in that time. Do we have some sort of divine right that says we should be better than them?

I have a question, what exactly are both Colorado and Utah's recruiting bases?

First off, there are always exceptions to the rule. The question is, why "should" Iowa be the exception?

Second off, Colorado? Why Colorado for an example?

 

[PCHawk]

Nebraska averaged 9 wins for decades, was their state loaded with talent? The defeatist attitude makes me puke.

In 1776 a rebel colony with an army consisting of farmers rather than trained soldiers took on the world's lone superpower . . . and won! For you people always looking for a reason to fail, please leave the Hawkeye fan base, and the USA.

It isn't about saying we can't or we shouldn't strive for it. It's just pointing out that there is no reason we "should" be better. There are lots of reasons we could be better. But there is not a single reason we should be better.

 

[Joshbrown]

First off, there are always exceptions to the rule. The question is, why "should" Iowa be the exception?

Second off, Colorado? Why Colorado for an example?

I can answer that.

Why should the USA land a man on the moon before the USSR? Will

Why should the USA win two world wars? Will

Why should the USA harness nuclear power? Will

Why should the USA cure polio? Will

Why should the USA lead the way to Mars? Will

WHY SHOULD THE HAWKEYES STRIVE FOR BETTER??

Seriously Hawkeynation, when did we become filled with quitters and losers and defeatists????????????????

Why strive for better than Bob Commings PCThawki????????????

 

[uihawk82]

Tell me again how both those seasons ended. Oh that's right, we got our asses blown out on national television by two teams with worse records than us heading in to the game. Both games over at half time. Great season though.

The 2003 Orange Bowl was not even close to being over at halftime, look it up.

 

[PCHawk]

I can answer that.

Why should the USA land a man on the moon before the USSR? Will

Why should the USA win two world wars? Will

Why should the USA harness nuclear power? Will

Why should the USA cure polio? Will

Why should the USA lead the way to Mars? Will

WHY SHOULD THE HAWKEYES STRIVE FOR BETTER??

Seriously Hawkeynation, when did we become filled with quitters and losers and defeatists????????????????

Why strive for better than Bob Commings PCThawki????????????

But why shouldn't all the other teams have will? Or why should Iowa have more will than everyone else. You can't call me a defeatist because I have nothing to do with it. I'll admit right now that I will put zero effort into making the Hawks better than Wisconsin and MSU.

 

[HawkGold]

I am probably just an old dumb guy, but I do believe in Occam's razor: If we had an average to slightly above average passing attack in our arsenal this year, we would probably have won at least one, maybe even two more regular season games.

And, as I digress, it is just plain stupid that we lost to NDSU. The NW game was not quite as stupid, since they have been up and down all year and have shown the capability to play really good football. The PSU game was a blowout, which often happens to even pretty good football teams, especially on the road. The W game was a lot closer than most might have you believe. And, we really finished strong in November after PSU. The M game and the N game were NOT flukes. No way. We were better. Not first in the West, but second. Disappointed.

Maybe NDSU?

 

[HuckFinn]

Maybe NDSU?

Huh?

 

[HawkGold]

Huh?

I think I responded to the wrong thread. I'll beat you to it. I was stupid. There, you don't have to say it as you usually would.

 

[HuckFinn]

I think I responded to the wrong thread. I'll beat you to it. I was stupid. There, you don't have to say it as you usually would.

No. In no way would I call you stupid. Not interested in a fight. Do I sometimes resort to hyperbole? Yup. Sarcasm, yup. But this web site is just anplace to have fun. No way do
I mean to offend.

 

[WestCoastHawk]

This season was a huge disappointment.

 

[CP87]

The 5 schools mentioned in the last few pages as being "on par" with Iowa are MSU, Wisc, Neb, Colorado, and Utah. If you are interested in yearly comparisons, see below.

This year our season was...

• much better than MSU (3-9 overall, 1-8 in conference)
• roughly equal to Neb (Neb has better overall at 9-3, same conference at 6-3, they are ranked 23 AP vs. our 22, and we know how the head-to-head came out)
• roughly equal to Utah (8-4 overall, 5-4 in conference, not ranked)
• not as good as Wisc (10-2 overall, 7-2 in conference, 6th ranked, beat us head-to-head)
• not as good as Colorado (10-2 overall, 8-1 in conference, 9th ranked)

Last year our season was...

• much better than Neb (6-7/3-5, we beat them head to head)
• much better than Colorado (4-9/1-8)
• better than Wisc (10-3/6-2, we beat them head to head)
• better than Utah (10-3/6-3)
• not as good as MSU (same records, they beat us head-to-head in a tight game)

The year before that (2014) Neb, MSU, and Wisc were better, Utah was probably on par, Colorado was much worse.

The year before that (2013) MSU and Wisc were better, Neb was on par, and Utah and Colorado were clearly worse.

The 2 years before that (2011 and 2012) MSU, Wisc, Neb were clearly better, Utah was pretty similar, Colorado was clearly worse.

The year before that (2010) MSU, Wisc were clearly better, Neb probably similar to a bit better, Colorado much worse (Utah not year P5).

The year before that (2009) Iowa was better than all of those programs.

So from those peer programs that were mentioned, some years Iowa is at or near the top, some years they are at or near the bottom, and some years they are in the middle. So roughly on par with the group (MSU and Wisc obviously a bit stronger than us over this window).

 

[westender]

I would have traded the MI win for a win vs. both NDSU and NW though. Even though neither of those wins would have given Iowa a fraction of the positive press it got for beating Mich, we would be winning the games we should.

But I agree, if I can only trade the MI game for 1 win (the only one I would trade it for would be Wisc). No That small change would change everything in terms of perception, cause we'd be heading to Indy at 8-4.

Weird year.

Ohio State didn't keep Michigan out of the playoff, Iowa did. If Michigan only had the 1 loss, both Ohio State and Michigan would be in the top 4. And who would really argue against it. I don't believe Washington could beat either at a neutral site.

 

[westender]

This year was exactly like last year. We played Wisconsin for the Division title. Last year we squeaked it out, 10-6, on a fluke fumble by Wisconsin. This year we lost 17-9 in a very close game. If we had defeated Wisky, we would be playing in Indy.

Not that much difference between the two teams....I think this year's defense is better, but the offense is not as good

Right on the money. $$$$

 

[Joshbrown]

But why shouldn't all the other teams have will? Or why should Iowa have more will than everyone else. You can't call me a defeatist because I have nothing to do with it. I'll admit right now that I will put zero effort into making the Hawks better than Wisconsin and MSU.

Iowa was better than Wisky/MSU once. MSU/Wisky wanted to be better and then they outworked the competition. Iowa is behind them because of attitudes like yours: "Why shouldn't MSU/Wisky be better than us." Hell why shouldn't 120 teams be better than us?? That's a question from someone who has never competed in athletics.

If ya wanna be better than the competition you have to want it. Obviously you and Kirk have something in common. Both of you are fine with letting Wisky jump ahead of Iowa. How do ya think Dan Gable won so much PC? He wanted it and wouldn't give up till it happened.

Apparently you missed the pressers where this was said: "That's football." That's what coaches who have lost the burning desire say. Pay attention PC.

 

[PCHawk]

Iowa was better than Wisky/MSU once. MSU/Wisky wanted to be better and then they outworked the competition. Iowa is behind them because of attitudes like yours: "Why shouldn't MSU/Wisky be better than us." Hell why shouldn't 120 teams be better than us?? That's a question from someone who has never competed in athletics.

If ya wanna be better than the competition you have to want it. Obviously you and Kirk have something in common. Both of you are fine with letting Wisky jump ahead of Iowa. How do ya think Dan Gable won so much PC? He wanted it and wouldn't give up till it happened.

Apparently you missed the pressers where this was said: "That's football." That's what coaches who have lost the burning desire say. Pay attention PC.

You do realize I'm just some dude who watches games on TV right?

 

[PCHawk]

Iowa was better than Wisky/MSU once. MSU/Wisky wanted to be better and then they outworked the competition. Iowa is behind them because of attitudes like yours: "Why shouldn't MSU/Wisky be better than us." Hell why shouldn't 120 teams be better than us?? That's a question from someone who has never competed in athletics.

If ya wanna be better than the competition you have to want it. Obviously you and Kirk have something in common. Both of you are fine with letting Wisky jump ahead of Iowa. How do ya think Dan Gable won so much PC? He wanted it and wouldn't give up till it happened.

Apparently you missed the pressers where this was said: "That's football." That's what coaches who have lost the burning desire say. Pay attention PC.

So just to get this straight. We used to be better because we wanted it more. But then we ceased to want it as much so we got passed up be Wisconsin and MSU? Is how much other teams want it ever relevant? Or are all other teams at the mercy of how much Iowa decides to want it?

 

[Joshbrown]

You do realize I'm just some dude who watches games on TV right?

Barta told me you used to give a thousand a year to the athletic department. Then Gary came to you and asked for 50 million so we could keep Kirk, and you gave him the money. Is that true?

 

[PCHawk]

OK so I've decided I want it more now. I hope how much I want it is now more than how much Wisconsin wants it so we can beat them next year. It's weird because I didn't necessarily feel like I wanted it more last year than this year but I must have since we lost to them this year. I probably spent too much time doing stupid shit like playing with my kids and let my want slip just enough to allow them to beat us.

 

[PCHawk]

Barta told me you used to give a thousand a year to the athletic department. Then Gary came to you and asked for 50 million so we could keep Kirk, and you gave him the money. Is that true?

Well I don't have 50 million in my account anymore so I must have.

 

[Stanzi]

Iowa was better than Wisky/MSU once. MSU/Wisky wanted to be better and then they outworked the competition. Iowa is behind them because of attitudes like yours: "Why shouldn't MSU/Wisky be better than us." Hell why shouldn't 120 teams be better than us?? That's a question from someone who has never competed in athletics.

If ya wanna be better than the competition you have to want it. Obviously you and Kirk have something in common. Both of you are fine with letting Wisky jump ahead of Iowa. How do ya think Dan Gable won so much PC? He wanted it and wouldn't give up till it happened.

Apparently you missed the pressers where this was said: "That's football." That's what coaches who have lost the burning desire say. Pay attention PC.

Oh STFU already. Seriously.