Miller: Ferentz 'Dead Serious' ; Is He Dead Wrong?

[Hawknick]

Ah yes, the catch. I too was in Florida for that one..
Tate and Holloway made great plays to cover up what could have been one of the biggest clock management gaffs by a coaching staff in the history of big games..All was forgiven/forgotten since we won that game.

1990 vs Michigan at the end of the first half was worse. Glad they pulled that one out too though.You know though KF might have planned it that way to confuse the LSU defense.

 

[EarlSlick]

Ah yes, the catch. I too was in Florida for that one..
Tate and Holloway made great plays to cover up what could have been one of the biggest clock management gaffs by a coaching staff in the history of big games..All was forgiven/forgotten since we won that game.

The most egregious aspect of that is the fact that KFz learned nothing from the experience and continues to this day to have woeful clock management skills. Not unlike his comically inept disability to learning anything from being burned by the fake punt.

 

[cecilB]

I'm not the guy who said he was dead serious about never returning a punt again. I wouldn't even have thought that possible fiction.[/QUOTE

Boo, hoo.

What are you going to write when an Iowa Player returns one?

You wrote an opinion piece. Some opinion pieces are interesting some are something else.

The percieved 'damage' you insnuate this caused is funny.

 

[blubberhawk]

I'm not the guy who said he was dead serious about never returning a punt again. I wouldn't even have thought that possible fiction.[/QUOTE

Boo, hoo.

What are you going to write when an Iowa Player returns one?

You wrote an opinion piece. Some opinion pieces are interesting some are something else.

The percieved 'damage' you insnuate this caused is funny.

I personally could give a damn about any perceived, long term damage to the program. All I want is the 3.7 million dollar man to start coaching like one.
Fix the problem and stop with the lame excuses.

 

[Jonrn]

Man, sometimes I really hate hearing about all the players Ferentz has put in the NFL, many after years while posting a mediocre record. It's like hearing your ex-girlfriend married a millionaire.

This point is excellent, people drive me crazy when they say KF is a great coach because he puts people in the NFL!! NO it's the opposite, he's a bad coach because he can't win with NFL talent!

 

[LawVHawk]

Ah yes, the catch. I too was in Florida for that one..
Tate and Holloway made great plays to cover up what could have been one of the biggest clock management gaffs by a coaching staff in the history of big games..All was forgiven/forgotten since we won that game.

Truth. I was glad for how that whole mess of a play worked out. But I STILL shake my head over the way Ferentz totally mismanaged the waning seconds. What turned out to be a glorious, exciting victory could just as easily have been yet another blown opportunity by Kirk Ferentz to give his team a chance to win a close game on a national stage.

 

[Elwood]

Kirk "fake punt" Ferentz is only one or two losses from doing the hokey-pokey off into the sunset. Good coaches loose it, it happens. I felt the same about Hayden, loved what he did with the program, but it was clear he needed to go in the end.

 

[Eda]

Ah yes, the catch. I too was in Florida for that one..
Tate and Holloway made great plays to cover up what could have been one of the biggest clock management gaffs by a coaching staff in the history of big games..All was forgiven/forgotten since we won that game.

Terrific post calling out the coaching staff for the "biggest gaff evah"!

But let's not stop there. Lets also call out the LSU staff for mismanaging their personnel and defensive call on that last play. Horribly done on their behalf too! I wish I could remember who the bozo on their sideline was that day.

 

[Hawknick]

The LSU coach was Nick Saben.

 

[blubberhawk]

Terrific post calling out the coaching staff for the "biggest gaff evah"!

But let's not stop there. Lets also call out the LSU staff for mismanaging their personnel and defensive call on that last play. Horribly done on their behalf too! I wish I could remember who the bozo on their sideline was that day.

LSU players botched the coverage. Happens all the time. We were lucky as hell to pull that one off & you know it. Good thing Tate knew he had just one play to score as our head coach was blowing bubbles on the sideline and was clueless about the clock, even though there were about 35,000 Iowa fans screaming about the clock running.

 

[Eda]

LSU players botched the coverage. Happens all the time. We were lucky as hell to pull that one off & you know it. Good thing Tate knew he had just one play to score as our head coach was blowing bubbles on the sideline and was clueless about the clock, even though there were about 35,000 Iowa fans screaming about the clock running.

There was confusion on LSU's side of the ball too. Lets not forget that. Everything fell into place just perfectly and we won. It was a miracle play. A play the has gone down into history and is relived by fans all the time. That's what these types of plays do. People talk about being at "that game". If we're winning at this time, nobody looks back and says it was a giant gaff. They look back and say "that was an awesome play and I was there". But since we're not winning right now, the haters will point out that it was a huge gaff and we shouldn't have won and 35,000 people were yelling at the coach.

The point I was making is if you hold KF accountable for the clock mismanagement, surely you'll account Saban to blame for the confusion on LSU's side too. Funny, I rarely hear that one.

Instead of saying the coaches goofed that game up, I prefer to relish in just how tremendous of a game it was. And thankfully it ended well for the good guys.

End of rant

And sorry to hijack thread.

 

[GoHawks24]

There was confusion on LSU's side of the ball too. Lets not forget that. Everything fell into place just perfectly and we won. It was a miracle play. A play the has gone down into history and is relived by fans all the time. That's what these types of plays do. People talk about being at "that game". If we're winning at this time, nobody looks back and says it was a giant gaff. They look back and say "that was an awesome play and I was there". But since we're not winning right now, the haters will point out that it was a huge gaff and we shouldn't have won and 35,000 people were yelling at the coach.

The point I was making is if you hold KF accountable for the clock mismanagement, surely you'll account Saban to blame for the confusion on LSU's side too. Funny, I rarely hear that one.

Instead of saying the coaches goofed that game up, I prefer to relish in just how tremendous of a game it was. And thankfully it ended well for the good guys.

End of rant

And sorry to hijack thread.

Smh.... No. Anybody who knows anything about football knows that was a giant gaff, regardless if we're winning currently or not. I knew it was almost a huge mistake by Kirk then and I know it now. Thankfully the miracle play bailed him out, so he avoided people coming down on him. And LSU was confused on that play because they were probably wondering why in the hell we hadn't called a timeout yet.

Managing a game clock successfully is a simple concept, and a 12-year old playing NCAA football '13 can do it better than Ferentz. It's ridiculous that he still fails at it. Obviously you aren't too upset about the easily correctable mistakes that he keeps making, but some of us are. And we're not just going to blindly support him when the same mistakes keep happening over and over again.

 

[OUTofTOWNHAWK]

I'm not the guy who said he was dead serious about never returning a punt again. I wouldn't even have thought that possible fiction.[/QUOTE

Boo, hoo.

What are you going to write when an Iowa Player returns one?

You wrote an opinion piece. Some opinion pieces are interesting some are something else.

The percieved 'damage' you insnuate this caused is funny.

Hey you leave jon alone. He will let Iowa return punts when he sees that kirk has improved. YOu may not understand this but sometimes as a writer you have to force people to say really dumb things. I feel bad for kirk errrbody always pickin on him.

 

[GoHawks24]

To add to my previous post, anybody thinking that this remark by Kirk will not impact recruiting negatively at all, needs to get a freaking clue. That quote by Kirk has been the punch line of the week. It's been highly publicized and kids that follow college football are going to hear about it. I don't think it's a huge deal, but it gives ammo to coaches trying to get kids to come to their school instead of Iowa.

"So you're thinking about going to Iowa? You mean the school where the coach won't even let his team returns punts because he can't figure out how to guard against the fake? Haha, ok. Good luck with that program, kid. Have fun playing conservative as ****. That'll be a blast I'm sure."

 

[kmurp]

Smh.... No. Anybody who knows anything about football knows that was a giant gaff, regardless if we're winning currently or not. I knew it was almost a huge mistake by Kirk then and I know it now. Thankfully the miracle play bailed him out, so he avoided people coming down on him. And LSU was confused on that play because they were probably wondering why in the hell we hadn't called a timeout yet.

Managing a game clock successfully is a simple concept, and a 12-year old playing NCAA football '13 can do it better than Ferentz. It's ridiculous that he still fails at it. Obviously you aren't too upset about the easily correctable mistakes that he keeps making, but some of us are. And we're not just going to blindly support him when the same mistakes keep happening over and over again.

Have we had clock issues this year? I don't really recall anything related to that.

 

[GoHawks24]

Have we had clock issues this year? I don't really recall anything related to that.

Besides Kirk keeping all of his 1st half TO's and putting them into his back pocket for the 2nd half, no, nothing that really comes to mind right away that's been a huge mistake. Now that I say that though...

It's not just the clock issues, it's a culmination of the easily correctable mistakes over the years that just drives me crazy. If he's going to play things as close to vest (conservative) as he does, then these types of mistakes that I previously mentioned, need to be shored up. But we still see them though, and pretty frequently.

 

[blubberhawk]

There was confusion on LSU's side of the ball too. Lets not forget that. Everything fell into place just perfectly and we won. It was a miracle play. A play the has gone down into history and is relived by fans all the time. That's what these types of plays do. People talk about being at "that game". If we're winning at this time, nobody looks back and says it was a giant gaff. They look back and say "that was an awesome play and I was there". But since we're not winning right now, the haters will point out that it was a huge gaff and we shouldn't have won and 35,000 people were yelling at the coach.

The point I was making is if you hold KF accountable for the clock mismanagement, surely you'll account Saban to blame for the confusion on LSU's side too. Funny, I rarely hear that one.

Getting set up in the right pass coverage is a helluva more difficult than looking at a clock.
Also, I could give a damn about Saban. He is not our coach.
Saban wins National Titles & makes a lot of money.
Ferentz makes a lot of money and loses to ISU, Minnesota, Central Michigan, Western Michigan, Northern Illinois, Purdue, etc. You could add up the salaries of all of those team's head coaches and they would probably not add up to that of our head coach.

Instead of saying the coaches goofed that game up, I prefer to relish in just how tremendous of a game it was. And thankfully it ended well for the good guys.

End of rant

And sorry to hijack thread.

 

[NCHawker]

Ferentz tells the incredulous media - no more punt returns - "foget about it"

 

[homes]

To add to my previous post, anybody thinking that this remark by Kirk will not impact recruiting negatively at all, needs to get a freaking clue. That quote by Kirk has been the punch line of the week. It's been highly publicized and kids that follow college football are going to hear about it. I don't think it's a huge deal, but it gives ammo to coaches trying to get kids to come to their school instead of Iowa.

"So you're thinking about going to Iowa? You mean the school where the coach won't even let his team returns punts because he can't figure out how to guard against the fake? Haha, ok. Good luck with that program, kid. Have fun playing conservative as ****. That'll be a blast I'm sure."

Who is doing the recruiting for this hypothetical rival school, a 9th grade girl?

 

[GoHawks24]

To add to my previous post, anybody thinking that this remark by Kirk will not impact recruiting negatively at all, needs to get a freaking clue. That quote by Kirk has been the punch line of the week. It's been highly publicized and kids that follow college football are going to hear about it. I don't think it's a huge deal, but it gives ammo to coaches trying to get kids to come to their school instead of Iowa.

"So you're thinking about going to Iowa? You mean the school where the coach won't even let his team returns punts because he can't figure out how to guard against the fake? Haha, ok. Good luck with that program, kid. Have fun playing conservative as ****. That'll be a blast I'm sure."

Who is doing the recruiting for this hypothetical rival school, a 9th grade girl?

ok? So you're saying that's not a type of conversation that some coaches may have with recruits? Wow...