Maishe Dailey Tweet
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rschneider
Well-Known Member
Ever think the police were looking for a group of people in the same area that had been reported with a gun? Of course it could be the total opposite and an unlawful pat down. Just don't jump to conclusions so fast people.
Thawki
Well-Known Member
While I don't doubt that things like this happen as they were described in the tweet, the tweet is not necessarily fact and he isn't under oath to tell the truth in the tweet. Yes, there may very well be a legitimate reason for what happened, if it did happen that way. But that police department seems to have a lot of issues that have gone unaddressed for years, as I recall.
tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
Lol, that would still be an unlawful "patdown" as you call it.
mopkins
King Kong
The fact that the cops can violate your 4th amendment rights and then make it ok by saying "we thought you guys had a gun" is completely absurd. If police ever wonder why people, especially minorities, don't trust them or believe they're actually there to protect them...here's another a classic example they can use.
At least it sounds like Maishe handled it well
At least it sounds like Maishe handled it well
SteveGarvey1
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Really depends on whether they would do the same thing if they had reports of a group of white young men with guns and they slammed down to the ground a group of white young men of similar description in search of weapons. We don't know that for sure.
I would tend to believe there is some profiling that goes on of minorities but then the media just doesn't cover things when they happen to white people either.
mopkins
King Kong
Well if the cops said something like "we've had multiple reports of kids matching your description in the area waving around a gun" then maybe it would make sense. But even then they would have to stop the kids and then explain the situation and then ask if they can search each and every kid. If a kid said no, then they should have to obtain a warrant to search them. They can't just detain 8 kids and search all of them because they "thought" they might have a gun...its not legal. Its a made-up excuse to that allows them to violate their rights as American citizens.
Even leaving race out of it, I got mistreated a few times by police in Iowa City back in my college days. They straight up abuse their power and they know there is nothing you can do about it. It annoys me to no end that their main mission is to "protect and serve" the community, but most of the time they'd rather just act like power hungry jackasses.
They probably had a report of a group of guys with a gun. Maishe didn't say he was with a group of guys that were all black. The police have a right to try and protect themselves even if his group was all black.
WinOneThisCentury
Well-Known Member
People don't jump to conclusions here, it's not like we have seen several videos of cops behaving badly lately, or killing people walking away from them. They have one of the toughest jobs in the world and I'm sure their belief is that you can't relax or you die...but I find it hard to believe you can't diffuse a situation pretty quickly with the proper communication. Slamming innocent people to the ground, seems like there wasn't alot of communication coming from the police. "On your knees with your hands on your head" would work for me.
Mademyaccount4u
Well-Known Member
Yeah, totally valid. It must be illegal to conceal and carry.
mopkins
King Kong
Then they should be able to produce this report of a group of guys with a gun, right? They should be able to show Maishe and his friends the police report showing the time, location and people reportedly involved. If someone called it in, there has to be a police report drawn up. Just saying they received a report should not be sufficient because it could be a lie. Besides, it is not illegal to own a gun
tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
Lol wtf?
A citizen has absolutely zero legal requirement to ever speak to a law enforcement officer.
Smh in disbelief
Here's a lil video for ya.
It might be true that a citizen has zero legal requirements to speak to an officer, but if it obstructs justice then he should pay the consequences. I believe in law and order. Some idiot that thinks what he thinks is more important than public safety isn't really worth discussing. The liberal in the video would never be stopped from talking in a college. I can understand not talking to police if you might incriminate yourself though. Anyway, what happened to Maishe and what this guy is talking about isn't the same thing. If the police thought a group of inidividuals might have a weapon they are paid to protect the public. You can take anything out of context.
tksirius
HN's Love Doctor
You completely missed the point. Take the time to actually watch the whole video.
BrueCrew3
Well-Known Member
I agree that police have the right to defend themselves and I support them as long as they are not abusing their powers. I don't, however, agree that they have the right to bully a group of individuals who are doing nothing wrong, (Which it sounds like they may have done in this case.)
If that were the case, an officer could pull you over for speeding, decide he didn't like the way you look, and decide to search your car. The problem is, that violates your right to not have your car searched without probable cause.
What we don't have here is the other side of the story, the police officers' side. There are always 3 sides to every, story. In this case that would be Maishe's story, the police story, and the truth. The truth generally falls somewhere in the middle.
Just my 2¢ .. .. GO HAWKS!!!
lightning1
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When police get a report like that, they usually come in with guns drawn and don't put the guns away until all possible suspects are on the ground with their hands out. They don't grab potentially armed men and slam them to the ground. That's a good way to get shot. Without more details, it seems like sketchy behavior by the police.
