Let Tim Lester Locate Portal QB

[trj]

Will Howard's definitely not a running quarterback. He's sitting at 3,779 yards and 33 passing TDs. He's the textbook definition of a pocket passer.

He isn’t a pocket passer. Much respect to his toughness and leadership, but I could throw to Jeremiah Smith and Emeka Egbuka. He is a perfect fit, in terms of what Ryan Day/Chip Kelly want to do. If it is just about slinging it, that is a big fat NO.

 

[Fryowa]

He isn’t a pocket passer. Much respect to his toughness and leadership, but I could throw to Jeremiah Smith and Emeka Egbuka. He is a perfect fit, in terms of what Ryan Day/Chip Kelly want to do. If it is just about slinging it, that is a big fat NO.

Lol, he’s not a pocket passer because his receivers are really good? The dude can’t run like Leonard for example or any of those guys and he slings the ball from the box. Not sure what you’re looking for in criteria…

So is Peyton Manning not a pocket passer because he had really awesome receivers to throw to?

Jesus.

 

[trj]

Lol, he’s not a pocket passer because his receivers are really good? The dude can’t run like Leonard for example or any of those guys and he slings the ball from the box. Not sure what you’re looking for in criteria…

So is Peyton Manning not a pocket passer because he had really awesome receivers to throw to?

Jesus.

Lol, he’s not a pocket passer because his receivers are really good? The dude can’t run like Leonard for example or any of those guys and he slings the ball from the box. Not sure what you’re looking for in criteria…

So is Peyton Manning not a pocket passer because he had really awesome receivers to throw to?

Jesus.

Tell me why someone with stat line from OSU isn’t projected to be a 1st round pick.

 

[Fryowa]

Tell me why someone with stat line from OSU isn’t projected to be a 1st round pick.

Maybe because there are 7 QBs with better stat lines? As in 7 guys with more passing yards, and some with a whole lot of rushing yards? Milroe, Ward, and Sanders are all more productive.

I said he was a pocket passer QB, man. Nowhere did I say he was a first round pick. And he is a pocket passer. just like Sanders. He’s the definition of that style.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

With the modern offenses, I think most coaches are looking for the QB that, first and foremost, can process quickly, has a quick release and is accurate in the short to intermediate ranges. The complete package would be one that navigates the pocket well, but also quick enough to make defenses pay with the occasional run for a first down.

Fair, but I guess my point is that it is easier to find guys who can run and scramble well and teach them how to move in the pocket and be an okay passer than it is to find a Peyton Manning type pocket passer. Truly great pocket passers come along once every few years. Running QBs who can run a spread offense effectively are coming out of high schools by the droves these days.

 

[#1DieHardHawk]

Fair, but I guess my point is that it is easier to find guys who can run and scramble well and teach them how to move in the pocket and be an okay passer than it is to find a Peyton Manning type pocket passer. Truly great pocket passers come along once every few years. Running QBs who can run a spread offense effectively are coming out of high schools by the droves these days.

I was essentially agreeing with you.

I think Lester (like a lot of the more modern offensive coordinators) is looking for that hybrid type that thrives in the McVay/Shanahan/LeFleur offensive scheme: One that can process quickly pre-snap and snap, go efficiently through progressions, display a quick accurate release, and have the ability to punish a defense with a scramble now and then if necessary.

They don't necessarily have to have the stature or big arm. Purdy is a good example, as is Cousins or an early Rodgers.

A true dual-threat QB, where you would incorporate designed QB runs, a la, Hurts, Jackson, Caleb Williams, etc., is a definite luxury if they possess the other qualities. My guess is that Lester is thinking more Purdy-like, though.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

I was essentially agreeing with you.

I think Lester (like a lot of the more modern offensive coordinators) is looking for that hybrid type that thrives in the McVay/Shanahan/LeFleur offensive scheme: One that can process quickly pre-snap and snap, go efficiently through progressions, display a quick accurate release, and have the ability to punish a defense with a scramble now and then if necessary.

They don't necessarily have to have the stature or big arm. Purdy is a good example, as is Cousins or an early Rodgers.

A true dual-threat QB, where you would incorporate designed QB runs, a la, Hurts, Jackson, Caleb Williams, etc., is a definite luxury if they possess the other qualities. My guess is that Lester is thinking more Purdy-like, though.

Shit, guys like Purdy aren't easy to find either. But I know what you are saying. Guys that can process and release an accurate ball are the grail. If they can scramble and get first downs with their feet, all the better.