Just stop

[4thngoal]

One problem, this is a yearly thing. If it was an isolated year, I'd be with ya. These are systemic program wide issues.

Everywhere except a few places.
Alabama even craps the bed about once a year.

My 64 yards thread was my knee jerk reaction.
But it's pretty much fact that if you can't run the ball you become one dimensional and are not going to win many games.
Notice I didn't call out one play in particular?
Notice I said we need to block better?

I'm not going to sit here and blame just KF, or just BF or just Nate, or just one player or just that OMG this one player isn't playing enough. Or just Barta. Or just one play.
There is enough blame to go around if that's what you want to do. Like the video says blaming is what cowards do.

From a fudemental stand point 64 yards ain't gonna cut it.
I didn't blame.
I said only 2 reasons to ever only be able to only gain 64 yards. You are totally out matched in strength (I don't think we are). Or blocking. Maybe to some degree rb, but every other team does not have the most talented rb's and we have a Napoleon Dynamite for a rb. Yeah maybe a stud rb could get 30 where another avg one only gets 10, but we are not getting 10 at any consistency at all.
Because those same run plays have been and are still ran successfully every week from Jr high to the pros.

 

[4thngoal]

Well we haven't lost every game. We didn't start 0-6 like Nebraska.
We barely lost when we did lose.
So we are close.

Even that some stuff has been working.......

 

[KFerentz]

That's football.

 

[Fryowa]

Here's some more of @4thngoal 's bullshit ...

Are you going to man up and admit to us all that you're a hypocritical dipshit, or are you going to keep ragging on us about how we should be less negative like you? You know, a bright, shining star in a sky of burnt out light bulbs?

I'll wait for you to answer, but I don't see it happening.

4thngoal:


4thngoal:


4thngoal:

Waiting, @4thngoal ...

Hellooooooooo??

 

[hawkeyes87]

But it's pretty much fact that if you can't run the ball you become one dimensional and are not going to win many games.
Notice I didn't call out one play in particular?
Notice I said we need to block better?

These threads really need titles for each page:
Page 1: "Bitching is bad"
Page 2: "Bitching is okay, as long as you bitch without blaming"

Btw, your "fact" about "can't run" = "one dimensional" = "won't win"? 9-1, #8 Washington State is the 2nd worst rushing team in football. West champ NW is 6th worst.

Page 3: "Let's not label our opinions as facts"

 

[4thngoal]

Waiting, @4thngoal ...

Hellooooooooo??

Dude I have seen your posts, I don't think I would be calling me out.
"Tj shouldn't even come back, he will be double teamed"?
You can see the future so well why don't you just go win the lotto?
Or just answer me this Einstein, where in the draft does the projected (projected!!!!!) #5 te go?
You don't think another year of our sophomore wide receivers and Junior quarterback is going to help improve our passing game? If that happens you honestly think they're going to be able to double team a te the entire game?
So you don't think that he can improve his stock?

Your ability to see the future is pretty negative.
Go back to pounding on your keyboard.

 

[ChosenChildren]

Well, I've tried to be as positive as anyone over the years about our coach.

But when you see the same tendencies year after year, it is easy to get frustrated.

My beef is with the offensive philosophy. We need a run pass threat at QB. It is obvious to me now. Stanley is a great kid, but he is too easy to defend.

 

[4thngoal]

These threads really need titles for each page:
Page 1: "Bitching is bad"
Page 2: "Bitching is okay, as long as you bitch without blaming"

Btw, your "fact" about "can't run" = "one dimensional" = "won't win"? 9-1, #8 Washington State is the 2nd worst rushing team in football. West champ NW is 6th worst.

Page 3: "Let's not label our opinions as facts"

Northwestern got lucky bounces.
Make no mistake a squirrel can run across the road a whole bunch of times and narrowly escaped whole bunch of times but sooner or later they're going to get smashed.
No way I would bet on them in the b10 championship or a bowl game.

On the other side, is us.
Bad bounces and barely losing even with bad bounces.

Which do you think is actually better??

 

[83Hawk]

Good point. Let's all try to be more like this guy (from his supportive, not bitching "64 Yards" thread):

​

Busted!

 

[4thngoal]

Well, I've tried to be as positive as anyone over the years about our coach.

But when you see the same tendencies year after year, it is easy to get frustrated.

My beef is with the offensive philosophy. We need a run pass threat at QB. It is obvious to me now. Stanley is a great kid, but he is too easy to defend.

Maybe we do need a more mobile qb, idk.
Maybe they just need to work more on throwing from akward stances and positions and not so much if you don't get exactly the right snap, exactly the right steps, exactly the right foot positions, exactly right, you can't throw a 12 yard dump off pass.
Idk. Maybe work on roll outs and stuff more??
Idk.
It couldn't hurt I wouldn't think.

But that's not bitching, that's suggesting. Just like you are doing. Big difference. A difference weak minded people now days can't distinguish. Probably why the internet is full of butt hurt.

 

[hawkeyebob62]

Many people use message boards as an outlet for their frustration. Would you prefer they kick their dog or break their TV instead?

Yes. Yes, I would.

 

[hawkeyes87]

Northwestern got lucky bounces...
On the other side, is us.
Bad bounces and barely losing even with bad bounces.

Which do you think is actually better??

You were the one saying the Hawks can't run. And, "can't run" = "one dimensional"... "one dimensional won't win many games"... any of this sound familiar??

But now you're saying it's only because of bad bounces that the Hawks haven't won? Hmm.

Now, between NW and Iowa, which do I think is better?

"I love winning... It's, like, better than losing?"
(anyone name the movie?)

 

[4thngoal]

You were the one saying the Hawks can't run. And, "can't run" = "one dimensional"... "one dimensional won't win many games"... any of this sound familiar??

But now you're saying it's only because of bad bounces that the Hawks haven't won? Hmm.

Now, between NW and Iowa, which do I think is better?

"I love winning... It's, like, better than losing?"
(anyone name the movie?)

They ran on us, we didn't run on them.

They have barely beat so many teams, say what you want but that's good bounces and lucky.
Like one bad ref call lucky. One first down type lucky.

Where we have had, bad ref calls, bone headed mistakes, and just about anything you can imagine bounce against us and all in one game and barely lost.

 

[Fryowa]

Dude I have seen your posts, I don't think I would be calling me out.
"Tj shouldn't even come back, he will be double teamed"?
You can see the future so well why don't you just go win the lotto?
Or just answer me this Einstein, where in the draft does the projected (projected!!!!!) #5 te go?
You don't think another year of our sophomore wide receivers and Junior quarterback is going to help improve our passing game? If that happens you honestly think they're going to be able to double team a te the entire game?
So you don't think that he can improve his stock?

Your ability to see the future is pretty negative.
Go back to pounding on your keyboard.

Stop trying to deflect.

I know very well I'm negative and have never tried to hide it.

But you coming here and telling us how we're so terrible and how you're such a positive guy is a load of shit.

But nice try.

 

[Fryowa]

But that's not bitching, that's suggesting. Just like you are doing. Big difference. A difference weak minded people now days can't distinguish. Probably why the internet is full of butt hurt.

That's not bitching?

How bout this...

4thngoal:

I'm saying that we can't run the dam ball because most of the team can't or isn't blocking.
Our run game is a smelly pile of dog crap because our run blocking by everyone is dog crap.
Nobody has that killer mentality. That I'm going to knock your dick into the dirt grit.
It's well we will work on it and clean some things up.
Screw that, you can only drink from the skulls of your enemy because you kicked the ever loving crap out of them.

4thngoal:

Maybe our girly team will realize they only have a couple more games to take their frustrations out in. Maybe they stop playing flag football and go out there and knock some dicks in the dirt.

Maybe stop telling us not to do the same shit you do on a regular basis.

 

[kicker22]

They ran on us, we didn't run on them.

They have barely beat so many teams, say what you want but that's good bounces and lucky.
Like one bad ref call lucky. One first down type lucky.

Where we have had, bad ref calls, bone headed mistakes, and just about anything you can imagine bounce against us and all in one game and barely lost.

I'm not taking a dog in this fight, because damn is it fun to sit back and enjoy. But with that said whether "good bounces" or "lucky" or bad bounces good teams find ways to win. Games are not won or lost by one or two plays.

We don't lose because of "bad ref calls, bone headed mistakes, or just about anything else you can imagine". We lose because throughout those games we don't make enough plays to offset what can't be controlled like the bad calls, the mistakes, etc... If we were a better team we'd make plays to minimize the effects those plays have to the extent that it wouldn't be as detrimental.

Sure NW has had some things go their way this season, but they've done the little things to keep themselves in position throughout the game to benefit from them. I'm not saying were a bad team and I'm not saying they're world beaters, but over the course of a 60 minute game one or two plays can become irrelevant if you capitalize on other opportunities throughout the game.

 

[Fryowa]

That's not bitching?

How bout this...

4thngoal:



4thngoal:



Maybe stop telling us not to do the same shit you do on a regular basis.

@4thngoal

Nothin’???

 

[hawkeyes87]

@4thngoal

Nothin’???

Give him some time.

Since his (so called) "point" changes w/ every post, it can't be a quick process!

 

[HawkPrdatr40]

Are you new to Message Boards? People can say what they want. As for this team it’s pathetic that they sit 6-4, they’ve literally pissed this season down it’s leg, thanks to coaching and poor QB play!!

Not our fault that >>

 

[mrolympia]

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