Half of the 14 Big 10 schools have built in advantages and all 14 are trying to will themselves to victory. It doesn't even cross some people's minds that other teams have a say on where we finish too. They think as long as we do what we should do, we will win reguardless of what everyone else does. Well what happens when we do what we need to do AND other teams do what they need to do? We win automatically because we're Iowa? I'll tell you right now, if we do what we need to do, we still need teams like Ohio State and Indiana to not do what they need to do. Because if Ohio State, Indiana, and Iowa all do what they need to do, Iowa will finish 3rd of the bunch. We don't automatically win as long as we do what we need to do.
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Half of the 14 Big 10 schools have built in advantages and all 14 are trying to will themselves to victory. It doesn't even cross some people's minds that other teams have a say on where we finish too. They think as long as we do what we should do, we will win reguardless of what everyone else does. Well what happens when we do what we need to do AND other teams do what they need to do? We win automatically because we're Iowa? I'll tell you right now, if we do what we need to do, we still need teams like Ohio State and Indiana to not do what they need to do. Because if Ohio State, Indiana, and Iowa all do what they need to do, Iowa will finish 3rd of the bunch. We don't automatically win as long as we do what we need to do.
Gable knew wrestling better than anyone in the world probably. He also had a ton of drive. Having the ability he had made it almost impossible for others to compete, no matter how much will they had. Him having the ability and will was impossible for others to overcome.
That is where Penn State is now. They didn't become awesome because they finally decided to get some will. They became awesome because the next Dan Gable wanted to coach there. Now it doesn't matter what Iowa does, they are fighting for 2nd place.
Joshbrown
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A thought.
Gable was a legendary athlete before becoming a legendary coach.
Kirk and Fran? Not sure on FM but Kirk in his own words wasn't a memorable football player.
I think that explains a lot. Gable experienced first hand what it is like to be unwilling to lose. Kirk and Fran reached a certain comfort zone with losing as athletes.
There's your explanation for the difference between those men. One of them couldn't imagine what it's like to lose. The other two expected it because of their very personal experiences. Certainly KF is too forgiving with losing.
Kennyfromminne
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Well then i guess this shows that there arent just a few great coaches out there. A lot of people seem content with mediocrity, i am not one of those fans and just because others see it my way doesn't make them trolls necessarily.
Kennyfromminne
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This
kicker22
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Come on now Fran's nickname was "White Magic" isn't that memorable enough?
Joshbrown
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You are correct sir. FM did experience real success as a BBall player, unlike Kirk. So I stand corrected. I shall now grant him one additional season. But then I think of Alford and immediately take back that extra season.
kicker22
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You are correct sir. FM did experience real success as a BBall player, unlike Kirk. So I stand corrected. I shall now grant him one additional season. But then I think of Alford and immediately take back that extra season.
You don't have to grant him an additional season. I just love the nickname. But nicknames don't win championships, at least I don't think they do.
Joshbrown
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I too love the nickname White Magic. And he earned it from what I've read. Just think, if he had been a Philly legend in this decade his nickname would've been White Privilege.
thedukeofearl
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You have your fans
And you have your loyal fans
There is a difference. Loyal fans follow and support their team through thick and thin
Even through the Lickliter years there were those who watched every game because they were Hawkeye fans
It was brutal, but they watched and cheered the wins and watched the losses to search for development, sometimes a futile task
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a loyal Hawkeye fan
Everyone is entitled to their opinion
The critics and everyone else.....
And you have your loyal fans
There is a difference. Loyal fans follow and support their team through thick and thin
Even through the Lickliter years there were those who watched every game because they were Hawkeye fans
It was brutal, but they watched and cheered the wins and watched the losses to search for development, sometimes a futile task
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a loyal Hawkeye fan
Everyone is entitled to their opinion
The critics and everyone else.....
lightning1
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I knew exactly what Fran's ceiling was when the team tanked during the end of 2015-16 season. He had no answer. That was a huge red flag. And he has no answer now. We have seen the top of the mountain with Fran McCaffery. The top isn't very high and this is the low.
Joshbrown
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Uh-huh.
And Barta gets to live in his own private Taj Mahal and retire a rich man because he is being paid to find the best coaches for Iowa. It's hard to argue that's what he has done.
He had answered when we sucked st the beginning of White's senior year. He had answered we we sucked at the beginning of Uthoff's senior year. He had answers when we sucked at the beginning of last year.
tksirius
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Dude, just stop already.
Stop pointing out facts?
lightning1
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Since Valentines day, 2016...It's pretty much been a downward spiral into the pit of Basketball Hell.
The last half of last year was a slight climb back uphill.
lightning1
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5 wins/5 losses? NIT? Followed by this season? No post season? I can point to more lows than you can point to highs.
atomicblue224
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The silence is deafening. There's no right answers. I like Fran but I'm beginning to doubt his ability to take us to the NCAA's. There's no answers from me right now.
