Jirehl Brock Talks About Final Five, Visits, Upcoming Decision

Stanzi said:
They're having a comparable recruiting cycle to Iowa. Honestly, they should recruit better than us given that they're in Minneapolis, and have no in-state competition. Fleck won't be long for Minnesota if they have any success. I believe he will absolutely jump at the first big name opportunity that arises (if one does).
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you could very well be right. although, a B1G gig is a mighty good gig. Unless he's got the scratch to reach a blue blood, who knows? whether fleck is or isn't a good coach at this level, i would say that if brian ferentz had done what fleck did in the MAC, most would consider brian an excellent head coach. only time will tell.
 
Fleck is at 3.5 a year until 2022
Campbell is at 3.5 until 2023 (I think)
I absolutely think either would jump at the chance to coach a higher level program even with little in the way of a pay increase, as long as the contract had some length to it and wasn't a two year deal.
So the question then to me becomes who would be offered a better gig first??
Right now I would have to say Campbell. If he shows up again in the b12 this year, people are going to start sniffing around.
Since his last contract extension bumped him from 2.1 to 3.5, I doubt ISU is going to pony up anymore, meaning he is at his max. Where as if Fleck somehow started winning the west? The Gophers would and could pony up more $$.
All that considered, I would say Campbell is gone before Fleck. Unless Fleck wins like 3 games a year for the next several years.
 
Campbell will be gone, it's just a matter of time until that happens. That said Campbell is an interesting dude. Doesn't have an agent. He really cares about fit. He chose ISU over Mizzou, which as a straight football move doesn't really make sense. He stayed at ISU over TN last year, same deal. I it'll have to be the right fit for him, it's just a matter of when that happens.
 
Adam said:
Matt Campbell will never be the coach of OSU. At least not straight from ISU to OSU. Not even if he took them to the playoffs.
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Huh? Because you don't want it to happen?

A local Ohio kid who grew up a Buckeye fan and takes a lesser team to the playoffs would be exactly what they would want in their next coach.
 
Hawknigh said:
Huh? Because you don't want it to happen?

A local Ohio kid who grew up a Buckeye fan and takes a lesser team to the playoffs would be exactly what they would want in their next coach.
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It's just my opinion bro that no amount of winning at ISU would impress OSU enough to make a legitimate candidate. I mean they literally could have just about any coach they wanted. It's my opinion that there will always be a coach doing better at a better P5 school that will be higher on OSU's snob list.

Plus Meyer could be at OSU for another decade. Hard for me to imagine that Matt Campbell stays at ISU that long especially if he has some successful seasons.
 
BryceC said:
Campbell will be gone, it's just a matter of time until that happens. That said Campbell is an interesting dude. Doesn't have an agent. He really cares about fit. He chose ISU over Mizzou, which as a straight football move doesn't really make sense. He stayed at ISU over TN last year, same deal. I it'll have to be the right fit for him, it's just a matter of when that happens.
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I remember some writer tossing out the rumor but not that their AD actually tried to interview or offer him I could be wrong about that though... And their were a ton of coaches rumored and confirmed to have been involved with that fiasco as it was almost hard to keep up with. Seemed like he never seriously was entertaining anything (which is crazy, TN as nuts as that whole dynamic was would have been 10x better than ISU) So as far as I'm concerned he's already been at ISU longer than would have been guessed. But maybe he's got a certain place or two in mind... (Notre Dame is my best guess)
 
BryceC said:
Campbell will be gone, it's just a matter of time until that happens. That said Campbell is an interesting dude. Doesn't have an agent. He really cares about fit. He chose ISU over Mizzou, which as a straight football move doesn't really make sense. He stayed at ISU over TN last year, same deal. I it'll have to be the right fit for him, it's just a matter of when that happens.
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bryce, i think campbell thinks that if he can build a winner, relative to ISU's history, and sustain it, then he would become eligible for blue blood programs, and he'd be right. if he can have above avg success against Iowa, OU, OSU, TCU, UT, and BU, that'd translate into knowing how to win. those schools ain't chopped liver.
 
I agree. I think anything is possible with him, including getting a good offer after next year and being gone. I just think he knows Pollard especially has his back 100%, (which is why his buyout drops 50% if Pollard is no longer the AD) the fans love him, and he has a bunch of goodwill in Ames. I think he wants to be in the upper midwest, you especially think the Big 10 or ND has to appeal to him. I think he wants to be in with a stable AD and everything. That doesn't exist everywhere.

And yes, Earl Bruce made the jump from ISU to OSU. I think MOST ISU fans would totally understand if he went to a good Big 10 school, not even a blue blood, but somebody like MSU who is right below the blue blood status. If he goes to Indiana or something I'd be a little sour but it's out of my control too.
 
I like Campbell. He seems to have a lot more substance than Fleck, and schematically he is aggressive and creative. If he stays at ISU, I think the yearly tilt between Iowa and ISU is going to get very interesting.
 
Adam said:
It's just my opinion bro that no amount of winning at ISU would impress OSU enough to make a legitimate candidate. I mean they literally could have just about any coach they wanted. It's my opinion that there will always be a coach doing better at a better P5 school that will be higher on OSU's snob list.

Plus Meyer could be at OSU for another decade. Hard for me to imagine that Matt Campbell stays at ISU that long especially if he has some successful seasons.
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I agree.
I think he could get offers from places like Oregon St, Pitt, Boston college, Illinois, Purdue, MN, but I doubt unless he pulls a few natties in a span of a few years, he stands a chance of going from ISU to OSU, Michigan, Wisconsin, USC.
That kind of leap wouldn't even come with a good offer (unless you won a couple of championships)
Because they would give him a 2 year contract just due to the fact of the talent gap. They would expect to win now and often.
 
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4thngoal said:
I agree.
I think he could get offers from places like Oregon St, Pitt, Boston college, Illinois, Purdue, MN, but I doubt unless he pulls a few natties in a span of a few years, he stands a chance of going from ISU to OSU, Michigan, Wisconsin, USC.
That kind of leap wouldn't even come with a good offer (unless you won a couple of championships)
Because they would give him a 2 year contract just do to the fact of the talent gap. They would expect to win now and often.
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I could see him landing at a perennial top 30 school if he can put together back to back winning seasons at ISU, and maybe with excellent success at that school he could wind up at an elite program. Just don't see anyway that he stays at ISU while winning big long enough to outlast and replace Urban.
 
Campbell was on the list for a few of the openings last year, including Nebraska before they knew they could get Frost. Not saying he spoke with them, or even really considered it, but he was in the mix.

With that said, I think there are two jobs he'd leave for Notre Dame and OSU. I'd love if Urban stayed at OSU another decade, but he's made weird moves in the past. Brian Kelly seems more likely to move along.

If ISU wins 8+ games this year, he'd be in the mix for a lot of potential openings. I just personally think he'd only leave for 2 maybe 3 jobs.
 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...ting-job-security-of-all-129-fbs-coaches/amp/

Here is a list. 4&5 (most likely looking around)

"If Smith is fired without violating NCAA or program rules, he is owed nearly double his buyout amount. Being fired after this upcoming season would result in $19 million in Smith’s pocket. Like the buyout amount, that also decreases by $3 million after this season, $4 million after the 2017 season and $8 million after the 2018 season."
 
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Adam said:
It's just my opinion bro that no amount of winning at ISU would impress OSU enough to make a legitimate candidate. I mean they literally could have just about any coach they wanted. It's my opinion that there will always be a coach doing better at a better P5 school that will be higher on OSU's snob list.

Plus Meyer could be at OSU for another decade. Hard for me to imagine that Matt Campbell stays at ISU that long especially if he has some successful seasons.
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And just what would it look like for a coach "doing better at a better P5 school?" If Campbell made the playoffs, then the pool of possibilities would be limited to 3 others!
 
Hawknigh said:
And just what would it look like for a coach "doing better at a better P5 school?" If Campbell made the playoffs, then the pool of possibilities would be limited to 3 others!
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Is it truly and honestly your opinion that Matt Campbell and ISU are capable of making the playoffs?
 
I wouldn't want to see what the soup man could do with the players that Michigan has. He'd be a perfect fit for Michigan. Maybe a Bo clone?
 
RedlineSi said:
Campbell was on the list for a few of the openings last year, including Nebraska before they knew they could get Frost. Not saying he spoke with them, or even really considered it, but he was in the mix.

With that said, I think there are two jobs he'd leave for Notre Dame and OSU. I'd love if Urban stayed at OSU another decade, but he's made weird moves in the past. Brian Kelly seems more likely to move along.

If ISU wins 8+ games this year, he'd be in the mix for a lot of potential openings. I just personally think he'd only leave for 2 maybe 3 jobs.
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If he pulls another 7+ win season this year I could see LSU taking a chance since I think Ed Ogeron is gone after this season.
 
Adam said:
Is it truly and honestly your opinion that Matt Campbell and ISU are capable of making the playoffs?
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I never said it was my opinion. I simply called you when you said "Matt Campbell will never be the coach of OSU. At least not straight from ISU to OSU. Not even if he took them to the playoffs."
 
Hawknigh said:
I never said it was my opinion. I simply called you when you said "Matt Campbell will never be the coach of OSU. At least not straight from ISU to OSU. Not even if he took them to the playoffs."
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Lol the statement was wrought with hyperbole.

You can choose to debate the extreme fantastical notion that Matt Campbell is going to take the clones to the playoffs and steal Meyer's job at OSU if you please, but we might as well debate whether Campbell runs Meyer out of town or Saban.
 
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