Jarrod Uthoff

[kctom]

Right or wrong, I like guys that take it to the rim, thru traffic, thru contact, thru getting fouled and not being called, then fighting for possession of ball and it making a play. More often than not, you get high % shots, you draw fouls, you get to the FT. That is IOWAs game, that is Whiteys game, I like it.

Do they all go in no, does he shoot a high FG% yes, does he need more strength, yes, is he young yes, does he have that tool box to be elite yes. I'd rather see him drive hard to no avail, then jacking up 3s like Iowa does in most of their losses....

If you CAN get to the rim and you miss the shot, what else to you call it if you miss the shot? It doesn't matter if you get bumped or not, you missed the shot. It doesn't matter if you get fouled or not, you missed the shot. If you're playing in the lane, pretty much anything less than a severed limb is not a foul - you HAVE to play like that. As another poster stated (maybe not on this thread) "Look at the scars on the shoulders of McCabe and Woody." You get scars like that doing battle down low. If you're going to fall down on contact, you're not going to be a finisher. And until Utoff gets more strength in his upper body, he's not going to be a finisher.

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

I remember when my kids would 'conveniently' forget to remember things too....

You were bagging on uthoff's stats in and out of big ten play, then made comment about cutoff, recall now?

That commentary was the genesis for this thread.

You're inability to follow along with the conversation and admit you were referring to Jok and JO and that you were wrong when you said their four and a half minutes on the court together "certainly" contributed to Iowa being outrebounded is why it's now 10 pages.

But since you can't do it, I'll be the bigger man and admit you were wrong and move on and give you a fresh start. We're both Iowa fans after all.

 

[kctom]

This sounds like my kids when they first tried to own up to their shortcomings...

You're inability to follow along with the conversation and admit you were referring to Jok and JO and that you were wrong when you said their four and a half minutes on the court together "certainly" contributed to Iowa being outrebounded is why it's now 10 pages.

But since you can't do it, I'll be the bigger man and admit you were wrong and move on and give you a fresh start. We're both Iowa fans after all.

 

[HawkPrdatr40]

HM23 do you debate like this in real life, I'm guessing not. Damn! If not maybe there is a lesson to learn here. I would recommend that you re-read some of your responses. I know a couple others on this site that work it the same way with the belittling and it is disgusting to watch and read.

 

[Foval21]

Good link, but I was told in this very thread that Uthoff "did not make mistakes that led to layups", however the BHGP article contains exhibit 6 includes the following sentence:

But Jarrod Uthoff fails to look around and box out #2 Bertrand, who picks up a deflection off Woodbury and makes a layup.

Not sure who I can trust now?

i think bhgp messed up on the Uthoff box out. In that play number 2 and 21 are both not boxed out. With where 21 is he would have been uthoff's guy. 2 would have been the next closest defender which actually is woody. Woody should have found him and kept him off the boards. So in my view woody should blame himself on that play.

 

[kctom]

HM23 do you debate like this in real life, I'm guessing not. Damn! If not maybe there is a lesson to learn here. I would recommend that you re-read some of your responses. I know a couple others on this site that work it the same way with the belittling and it is disgusting to watch and read.

Hey HM23,
Its not my intention to make this personal. There's truth in both arguments.
Peace

This is how I'd like to end this....

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

HM23 do you debate like this in real life, I'm guessing not. Damn! If not maybe there is a lesson to learn here. I would recommend that you re-read some of your responses. I know a couple others on this site that work it the same way with the belittling and it is disgusting to watch and read.

When I'm right, I'm right. Not my fault that KcTom can't admit when he's wrong, the evidence is right there on the screen for all to see.

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

This is how I'd like to end this....

If nothing else, Tom, you've learned to you use the quote function, and for that, you should thank me.

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

This is how I'd like to end this....

This sounds like my kids when they first tried to own up to their shortcomings...

Then why do you keep making posts like that?

Will you admit that you said that JO and Jok playing together contributed to Iowa being outrebounded? And that you were wrong about that? I feel sorry for your kids, I hope they grow up to be better men than you.

 

[kctom]

Because your behavior is juvenile....

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

Because your behavior is juvenile....

As is yours, the ability to admit when you are wrong is something that comes in handy once in a while. You are wrong, give it up and stop embarrassing yourself, for your kids' sake. You just keep avoiding questions and refusing to acknowledge what is plain for all to see.

 

[HawkPrdatr40]

As is yours, the ability to admit when you are wrong is something that comes in handy once in a while. You are wrong, give it up and stop embarrassing yourself, for your kids' sake. You just keep avoiding questions and refusing to acknowledge what is plain for all to see.

 

[HawkIPA]

Hijacking threads in the primary sports forums with images, attempts at humor that have little to nothing to do with the topic may result in the user being banned, at my discretion. The Off Topic and Political/Controversial Forums are there for you to do that to your heart's delight; Not the primary sports forums on this site.

 

[HawkIPA]

1-5 in those games... so i guess you missed your point

Actually Iowa was 3-3 in those games since I am assuming Predator was talking about the OSU game in Columbus. Wins against Xavier, Notre Dame and at OSU. Im not sure what point he is trying to prove by throwing Notre Dame in that argument though.

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

I believe IPA's point was that Notre Dame is not a good example of strong competition.

 

[HawkIPA]

I believe IPA's point was that Notre Dame is not a good example of strong competition.

This. They are an average team.

 

[HawkPrdatr40]

They were playing good ball early in the year. Wheels fell off and our won't disagree they are average now, but still a cut above the competition level you see in the Non-Conference.

 

[HawkeyeMike23]

They were playing good ball early in the year. Wheels feel off and our won't disagree they are average now, but still a cut above the competition level you see in the Non-Conference.

They still lost to Indiana St and North Dakota St early in the year but yes it's definitely better competition than the Maryland eastern Shores of the world.

 

[HawkPrdatr40]

They still lost to Indiana St and North Dakota St early in the year but yes it's definitely better competition than the Maryland eastern Shores of the world.

Indiana State finish 2nd behind Wichita State in the MVC and NDSU is in Tourny.. They beat Indiana and Duke. were 10-4 and wheels fell off in ACC.

 

[1hawkeye1]

Uthoff was at his best shooting from the perimeter early in the season. Defenses began to figure him out and started taking the jumper away and allowing him to drive. The problem is, he doesn't have the physical strength to finish at the rim in traffic.