Is Fran not interested in transfers or are transfers not interested in Iowa?
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wartknight
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2010-2011 ISU was 16-16. While Iowa was in shambles, it wasn't like ISU was lighting the world on fire. Both teams have come light years from then. Have you seen what ISU has coming back next year? Very good chance they are a top 10 team to start year, at least top 15. This will be a telling year to see if Fran has built a program or if Marble was the guy making things happen
We are banking scholarships? Iowa only has 1 available scholly for next year. If Atwood comes then all 13 scholarships will be used next year. We had 13 scholarship players last year and that included Darius Stokes who only had a full ride because Ingram left.
You = failure!
DesMoinesHawki
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Obviously Fran is not against bringing in transfers. He is just not interested in building his program around transfers. I think with Atwood and Dickerson (while juco transfers) help fill an immediate need.
clicheusername3
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Kentucky's starting 5 is Fr-Fr-Fr-So-So. ISU's starting lineup was SR-SR-SO-JR-FR.
LOL wut?
SheagleHawk
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Or gouge someone's eyes out while clearly not even attempting to go after the ball.
Or flip the opposing crowd the bird because he fouled out and was mad.
Really? I dont see it.
With the roster they have now they would have a backcourt of Long, Morris and Thomas. Dont expect Morris' incredible A/TO numbers to continue next year when he doesnt have Kane to handle a lot of the ball handling duties. The other 2 are 3 point shooters and thats it. I know Thomas was probably the best shooter in the country his senior year of high school but he didnt show much last year. Dorsey Walker is still there and they have Custer coming that will play some but those 2 arent going to produce much.
Their front court will be solid with Hogue and Niang returning but who knows what McKay and Nader will bring.
Fred needs to add at least 1 more transfer, maybe 2 that will have an impact next year otherwise I would expect ISU to take a step back from this season.
A lineup of Morris, Long/Thomas, Hogue, Niang and McKay doesnt seem like a Top 15 team with Nader, Custer and Long/Thomas coming off the bench.
SteveGarvey
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And probably 85 of those 100 are guys who want to transfer because they're not getting enough PT, meaning they're not that great to begin with. The other 15 are indeed talented players who want to go to a place they think they can win because they may have one or two years left. They don't see Iowa as being in that class yet. I'm sure Fran wouldn't be averse to picking up a transfer if he was one of those 15% of guys who are difference-makers but he hasn't yet got the program to that level yet that they're knocking on the door. Yeah, Fred didn't have ISU there when he first started there but he masterfully used the "NBA rolodex" angle to get them to come and props to him for doing that.
Without some sort of incentive like Fred's NBA ties had, Fran will have to get Iowa to a little higher place in the echelon to start bringing in quality transfers.
OakRaiders
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There are some good transfers out there. Some troubles at old school, some JUCOs, some 5th yrs all diffrent. Pretty sure Fran knows there are good pieces there not all are good pieces. Fran has not needed to go that route because he had solid upper classsmen Marble and then some young bigs to carry the load. Marble is gone front court is still tough. The only transfer that would be a get right now is somthing in the guard court and i think he went after that. I do think going after some of the big names is worth it even if you don't think you will get them. Shows you are willing to try and bring in big fish. Gotta have big dreams.
Think Fran will have have a tougher coaching year next year but it is not like tallent isnt there. Lots of players grow between year 2 and 3 (Utoff, Giz, and Woddy) could all be much improved.
Think Fran will have have a tougher coaching year next year but it is not like tallent isnt there. Lots of players grow between year 2 and 3 (Utoff, Giz, and Woddy) could all be much improved.
If even a small portion of the alleged issues within the locker room were true, not sure how well a guy like Kane for example would mesh at Iowa this year. Seems you would need a strong locker room to begin with to accept a guy like that.
People make it sound like its a simple process to manage ego's and getting guys that are currently on the team to accept the fact a guy is going to come in for a year and possibly take your job.
If it was really as simple as people make it sound a lot more people would be trying it.
People make it sound like its a simple process to manage ego's and getting guys that are currently on the team to accept the fact a guy is going to come in for a year and possibly take your job.
If it was really as simple as people make it sound a lot more people would be trying it.
ColumbusHawk
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Since Raveling left, Iowa recruiting has pretty much been a failure. Since Raveling's recruits left, the Hawks have seriously challenged for the Big Ten title only once. In that year, no Big Ten team made the sweet sixteen. The conference was awful. The Hawkeyes have only made the sweet sixteen once since there was no Raveling on the team.
It is getting easier to spot them. Basketball brought them out. Football puts them away.
Roaches in a dark room, light comes on and boom they are gone.
SheagleHawk
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Oh don't you dare call out Ejim! The guy is a class act as evidenced by some CLASS award. Apparently a shortage of class on the clown roster.
ISU would have begged to be compared to Kentucky before Fred was hired. Thank you for that reminder. ISU has won more NCAA tournament games in the last 3 years than Iowa has played in. If people are still bringing up the Lick comparisons next year then that illustrates a failure for Fran. Lick is no longer the bar.
TheIowaHawkGuy
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Sure man, you got me. The reason I bring it up is because the comparisons between the two schools is easy to do - both BCS level, state universities, close to each other, hired coaches at same time, similar recruiting footprints. The media compares the two all the time in football and basketball.
lightning1
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That should be easy to prove. Just refrain from commenting on anything Cyclone for the next 50 posts. That shouldn't be hard to do. Especially since football season is coming up and there is literally NOTHING good to say about Cyclone football.
Deal?
TheIowaHawkGuy
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Their football team is a complete joke. Not worth wasting time talking about. They have a hyperbolic coach who writes checks his mouth can't cash. But their fanbase buys it every single year. Have heard numerous Clone fans talk up how good they'll be because of MANGINO! Maybe offense is okay but tough to score 60 points when their defense will give up 70. I'm sure those staff changes will go flawlessly just like they did for Iowa in 2012. DERP!
eyekwah
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Calipari is a sleeze bag. I'll grant that Hoiberg isn't. Neither strategy for recruiting is what college sports should be about. This phenomenon about what have you done for me lately goes no where with me. I'm one of the few senior citizens that post here with some regularity. I don't know how old you are or care, but ISU has had some real ****** bag coaches. Tim Floyd, Larry Eustachy, and Wayne Morgan come to mind. Little integrity in my book. Three of the biggest exploiters of players in college bball. I'm glad McDermott has been able to succeed at Creighton. It kind of proves that it wasn't him, but ISU that must adopt a different strategy to compete.
What is Iowa's strategy? I'm pretty old by the way.
