Iowa's Attrition Compared to BIG Schools

[cmhawks99]

Chad is a used car salesman! Do you have any idea how prestigious of a job that is? You will respect the life lessons he's trying to teach you! You can only hope to be half as successful as he is in life! You should be grateful he even finds time to post on this board!

Find one post where I said that……see what you are doing is projecting what you felt, because you didn’t like what I said. And what I was doing was giving you perspective and insight as to what I do and how I come to my conclusions. The difference between you and me is I empathize with those trying hard to do a job, and chastise those like you who are hypercritical, while hiding on a message board…

You on the other hand criticize “those” in the battle, and get mad at me for pointing out how rotten that is and how poor your cognitive thinking skills are…

Now let’s think about this….who is more likely to be respected in the real world, and more able to “reach” people…..

Yeah that’s right?!?! Your crap doesn’t work in the work place anymore….people just shut you out. So when my friend PC, tells me people are laughing at me, what’s he really saying…bitter people who don’t want to be told their actions are poor and their perspective even poorer are laughing about me….shoot, that’s sucks.

The only thing I will say is this….I am indeed a “jack arse” at times and I shouldn’t be. It ruins my message and even if I think you are a boor, I shouldn’t be one myself. The irony there is I often do apologize for my poor words, and yet here you and others are, doing and saying the same nasty crap over and over and over again….and yet it is ME you are suggesting is full of himself….even you can’t surely miss the levity of that!

 

[cmhawks99]

Chad check the numbers youself. I was correct with everything I wrote.

Oh I’m glad you are back……

Answer this for me…….and this will help those who couldn’t grasp what I was saying earlier (and I’ll admit it got convoluted…..) about how silly it was to use signing numbers to make a case.

PSU signed ONLY 18 less kids….115 to 97. Yet we have lost 43 and they have lost 9…?!?! That’s intriguing to me….get back to me when you can figure that out.

 

[cmhawks99]

Would you buy a used car from this guy?

Many have......and they typically come back. Mostly because I treat people right and don't talk crap about people who are giving it their all. You know kind of the opposite of what happens in here.

Anything else…..

 

[spudhawk]

Find one post where I said that……see what you are doing is projected what you felt, because you didn’t like what I said. And what I was doing was giving you perspective and insight as to what I do and how I come to my conclusions. The difference between you and me is I empathize with those trying hard to do a job, and chastise those like you who are hypercritical, while hiding on a message board…

You on the other hand criticize “those†in the battle, and get mad at me for pointing out how rotten that is and how poor your cognitive thinking skills are…

Now let’s think about this….who is more like to be respected in the real world, and more able to “reach†people…..

Yeah that’s right?!?! Your crap doesn’t work in the work place anymore….people just shut you out. So when my friend PC, tells me people are laughing at me, what’s he really saying…bitter people who don’t want to be told their actions are poor and their perspective even poorer are laughing about me….shoot, that’s sucks.

The only thing I will say is this….I am indeed a “jack arse†at times and I shouldn’t be. It ruins my message and even if I think you are a boor, I shouldn’t be one myself. The irony there is I often do apologize for my poor words, and yet here you and others are, doing and saying the same nasty crap over and over and over again….and yet it is ME you are suggesting is full of himself….even you can’t surely miss the levity of that!

I am pretty cocky in real life, I know it is a weakness, but I am also confident in my research, knowledge of football and especially statistics. You are only semi- backing down from the things you said about me and have not addressed me personally since I backed up my initial thoughts.

In summation in this thread this is what you remind me of:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDAmPIq29ro]Animal House - All Is Well! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[cmhawks99]

I am pretty cocky in real life, I know it is a weakness, but I am also confident in my research, knowledge of football and especially statistics. You are only semi- backing down from the things you said about me and have not addressed me personally since I backed up my initial thoughts.

In summation in this thread this is what you remind me of:

Dude I'm not backing down from anything.....I'd like to know.


See spud…you and I….we aren’t anything alike. I’m high strung and strong willed myself. Can be over sure, but not arrogant, and yes I can come off as waaayyy over the top. I don’t like to be wrong, but have zero issue with apologizing or admitting it. That ain’t you bud (or most of you critical types actually)……I’ve seen you and those like you all over this board, clanging your bells and beating your anger drum.

I’ve lived my life and I’m wise enuff to know, things are rarely as easy as they seem, and I ain’t trying to be right here. I also know the outlandish critic accomplishes little in his life. I’m trying to get people to quit being hypercritical jack arses & over doing this crap. Now I’d like to know why there is such a glaring difference in those numbers you came up with.

That’s all…..

We signed 18 more kids and lost 34 more……something ain’t jiving. You are a stud researcher apparently. I’d like to know why?

 

[CAARHawk]

Hey Everybody, it is hard to ignore someone when you hit the quote button. If you must continue this senseless banter, do us all a favor and just hit reply.

 

[cmhawks99]

Hey Everybody, it is hard to ignore someone when you hit the quote button. If you must continue this senseless banter, do us all a favor and just hit reply.

Here I'll help......I'm moving on. When I come back, the same people will still be bitter and the same guys trying to be positive will be the same. I know which ones are in charge of the world...

Good luck Carr...you cats will be negative about the new coach too. And you'll use the same tired old rhetoric. And say the same boring, illogical silliness that every losing fan in America uses when their team loses games. And you won’t be smart enuff to figure out how suddenly we are winning again. You’ll make up some stupid crap about how we “finally” did what you said we should…..when in reality, we just got better at the fundamentals….its always about the fundamentals.

Good luck buddy…..

 

[hawkfan33]

Dude I'm not backing down from anything.....I'd like to know.


See spud…you and I….we aren’t anything alike. I’m high strung and strong willed myself. Can be over sure, but not arrogant, and yes I can come off as waaayyy over the top. I don’t like to be wrong, but have zero issue with apologizing or admitting it. That ain’t you bud (or most of you critical types actually)……I’ve seen you and those like you all over this board, clanging your bells and beating your anger drum.

I’ve lived my life and I’m wise enuff to know, things are rarely as easy as they seem, and I ain’t trying to be right here. I also know the outlandish critic accomplishes little in his life. I’m trying to get people to quit being hypercritical jack arses & over doing this crap. Now I’d like to know why there is such a glaring difference in those numbers you came up with.

That’s all…..

We signed 18 more kids and lost 34 more……something ain’t jiving. You are a stud researcher apparently. I’d like to know why?

Chad this is the football board, please post your personal rants in the off topic section from now on.

 

[seepig]

Many have......and they typically come back. Mostly because I treat people right and don't talk crap about people who are giving it their all. You know kind of the opposite of what happens in here.

Anything else…..

So do you have any REAL data to dispute the other guys assertion cmhawks or is this just more..."I'm more enlightened than the rest of the posters on Hawkeye Nation"?

 

[seepig]

Here I'll help......I'm moving on. When I come back, the same people will still be bitter and the same guys trying to be positive will be the same. I know which ones are in charge of the world...

Good luck Carr...you cats will be negative about the new coach too. And you'll use the same tired old rhetoric. And say the same boring, illogical silliness that every losing fan in America uses when their team loses games. And you won’t be smart enuff to figure out how suddenly we are winning again. You’ll make up some stupid crap about how we “finallyâ€￾ did what you said we should…..when in reality, we just got better at the fundamentals….its always about the fundamentals.

Good luck buddy…..

Tell you what smart guy give me give me all 5 star studs as rated by 247sports you get all 2-3 star guys we'll see who beats who 10 out of 10. Fundamentals is a BIG part but when everyone is fundamentally equal it comes down to talent.

 

[seepig]

I am pretty cocky in real life, I know it is a weakness, but I am also confident in my research, knowledge of football and especially statistics. You are only semi- backing down from the things you said about me and have not addressed me personally since I backed up my initial thoughts.

In summation in this thread this is what you remind me of:

Animal House - All Is Well! - YouTube

Well put SPUD we put

 

[PCHawk]

Chad everyone on this board is getting a pretty good laugh at your expense for posting absurd crap like this ^.

Actually PC, they aren't. The ones who are, well they are the same suspects who are just angry, cantankerous and just flat mean spirited....KF messed up their football program and someone is gonna pay.. They know what they are talking about, because well, they watch and they KNOW what�s wrong and then they rush to the board to let us know�. On the side�I must thank you, I haven�t heard from you and I was begining to think I�d lost my touch.... [/QUOTE

you said PC twice. I think you mistook me for pjhawk

 

[Billso]

Answer this for me…….and this will help those who couldn’t grasp what I was saying earlier (and I’ll admit it got convoluted…..) about how silly it was to use signing numbers to make a case.

He didn't "use signing numbers to make a case". This has been pointed out to you a half-dozen times.

PSU signed ONLY 18 less kids….115 to 97. Yet we have lost 43 and they have lost 9…?!?! That’s intriguing to me….get back to me when you can figure that out.

PSU lost 12, as Spud corrected in his full list, not 9. You could have checked it yourself in the time it took to post your diatribes. I did:

2007: Dailey, Breen, Ditto, Marks, Walton (5)
2008: Ware, Price, Wedderburn (3)
2009: Newsome (1)
2010: Mateas, Pullium, Ricketts (3)
2011: none (0)
TOTAL: 12

Sources: http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/psu/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2011-12/roster/roster_alpha.pdf and Scout.com: Football Recruiting (and yr=2008, 2009, 2010, 2011)

Yes, it is fair to say most of HN is laughing at you, and has been for some time. We knew you were self-absorbed, pompous and fond of lectures - but I didn't realize until this thread that you're also very slow on the uptake.

There's an old saying that might help you in life: You aren't learning anything when you're talking.

 

[CAARHawk]

Actually, I would say learning comes from being uninformed or misinformed and then gathering information or being corrected.

However, one must be open to accepting that she or he was uninformed or misinformed in the first place.

 

[CraigTNelson]

Chad is interesting.

But enuff already.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

Given the continuity in the coaching staff I'd have to say that Iowa does indeed have an attrition problem.

Also perplexing about the above numbers is this; Ferentz is supposedly the great coach that guys love to play for. Recruits speak highly of the family atmosphere, and KFz as the reason they came to Iowa. If that were really the case...shouldn't we have one of lowest attrition rates?

So what happens once they arrive?

Could it be the "football" part? All the things we "internet experts" like to complain about in his coaching style? Maybe we're not the only ones who get frustrated with Captain Conservative (and his alter ego, Major Stubborn)

I don't think it's a reach to consider that.

 

[HawkeyeHypnosis]

Also perplexing about the above numbers is this; Ferentz is supposedly the great coach that guys love to play for. Recruits speak highly of the family atmosphere, and KFz as the reason they came to Iowa. If that were really the case...shouldn't we have one of lowest attrition rates?

So what happens once they arrive?

Could it be the "football" part? All the things we "internet experts" like to complain about in his coaching style? Maybe we're not the only ones who get frustrated with Captain Conservative (and his alter ego, Major Stubborn)

I don't think it's a reach to consider that.

While this is definitely a possibility and probably a reason some have left, there are too many reasons as to why a kid would want to leave or has to leave.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

While this is definitely a possibility and probably a reason some have left, there are too many reasons as to why a kid would want to leave or has to leave.

Yes, there can any number of reasons behind a transfer...academics, playing time, homesickness, simply a "bad fit", etc. But with numbers like we see above, one has to think there's also some broader overriding factor.