Iowa v Illannoy is an NIT play in game

[DuffMan]

The Iowa v Illannoy game in the first round of the B10 tournament is going to determine which B10 team gets the NIT invite. Minnesota is a factor in this as well but I fully expect them to get to get bounced by a NW team that is likely playing for their ncaa tournament lives.

 

[herkyattack]

Doesn't matter. We're gonna win the whole tourney.

 

[sportstalent]

Probably not, go Gophers!!!!

 

[DuffMan]

Probably not, go Gophers!!!!

u must be confused. MN loosing would be a good thing for us.

 

[nationalchamps]

Who is the #1 seed now?

 

[sportstalent]

u must be confused. MN loosing would be a good thing for us.

Not confused, if Iowa wins and NW looses it is a win-win.

NW does not deserve the talk they get, someone finally said it today and if Iowa can get past the match-up nightmare they will get back into the NIT talk.

I am not sure how it would be a bad thing for MN to win would be good.

Honestly, I don't think any team effects Iowa's chances, but Iowa. If Iowa doesn't beat Illinois then nothing else matters, plain and simple.

 

[DuffMan]

Not confused, if Iowa wins and NW looses it is a win-win.

NW does not deserve the talk they get, someone finally said it today and if Iowa can get past the match-up nightmare they will get back into the NIT talk.

I am not sure how it would be a bad thing for MN to win would be good.

Honestly, I don't think any team effects Iowa's chances, but Iowa. If Iowa doesn't beat Illinois then nothing else matters, plain and simple.

A win gives Minnesota 19 wins, and takes some of the tarnish off thier 6-12 conferece record. If we both go one and one in the BTT I still think we get the nod, but the less competition we have the better.

Finally NW getting into the NCAA is ALSO a good thing for Iowa.

 

[DuffMan]

BTW, who ever predicted this two weeks ago is crazy smart.

Iowa has a very real shot to finish 7th in what has been widely publicized as the best basketball conference in America. This is a very significant stat, especially given that the B10 is almost a lock to take 6 teams dancing. There is ZERO chance the NIT doesn’t select AT LEAST one B10 team, and the team sitting in 7th place has got to feel pretty good about their chances. Let’s look at what needs to happen for Iowa to finish 7th.

First things first Iowa MUST take care of business to close out the season. Thankfully the schedule sets up very nicely to do that. We are currently 14-13 (6-8). We have four remaining games, Wisky (who we’ve beaten once), free falling Illannoy, Nebraska, and NW. I think Iowa has a very good shot to split those four and finish 16-15 (8-10) and in 7th place in the B10. That with a solid B10 tournament (winning one game minimum) MIGHT be enough to get the Hawks into a legitimate post season tournament. What about the other B10 teams competing with Iowa for that NIT bid?


On paper Minnesota looks like it’s a clear favorite over Iowa as they are currently 18-13 on the year. However when you take a deeper look they have some real problems. First and foremost is their current 5-9 league record. Second is their upcoming schedule. They play MSU, Indiana, Wisc, and Nebraska. Granted they get MSU and Indiana at home, but it’s not unrealistic to think they go 1-3 over that stretch. If that happens I can’t see the NIT taking Minnesota and their 6-12 B10 record over Iowa even if they have 19 wins..

Illannoys problem is similar to Minnesota’s. They are currently 16-11 overall but just 5-9 in the league. That 16-11 looks pretty good, but they finish with games @ OSU and @ WIsc, and games at home versus scUM and Iowa. To me that also looks like 1-3, and with the way they have been playing 0-4 isn’t out of the question. Again I see no way the NIT takes Ill at 17-14 (6-12) over a 16-15 (8-10) Iowa team.

The long and short is if Iowa can manage one win against the three game stretch versus Wisky, Ill, and Nebby, then the season finale at Carver might just be for the Hawkeyes first post season birth bince that guy with great hair was here.

 

[twinlaker]

BTW, who ever predicted this two weeks ago is crazy smart.

Bwhahaha... claaassic Duff! Seriously, great prediction.

 

[sportstalent]

A win gives Minnesota 19 wins, and takes some of the tarnish off thier 6-12 conferece record. If we both go one and one in the BTT I still think we get the nod, but the less competition we have the better.

Finally NW getting into the NCAA is ALSO a good thing for Iowa.

Iowa beat MN head to head...twice...that would have to play a factor, but Iowa losing to NW was not a good thing and I want to see NW out of the NCAA tournament discussion, they are not a good team.

Iowa has to win two games in BTT tournament to get into the NIT, no matter what else happens...losing is never a good thing no matter who you lose too.

 

[DuffMan]

A win gives Minnesota 19 wins, and takes some of the tarnish off thier 6-12 conferece record. If we both go one and one in the BTT I still think we get the nod, but the less competition we have the better. Finally NW getting into the NCAA is ALSO a good thing for Iowa.

Iowa beat MN head to head...twice...that would have to play a factor, but Iowa losing to NW was not a good thing and I want to see NW out of the NCAA tournament discussion, they are not a good team. Iowa has to win two games in BTT tournament to get into the NIT, no matter what else happens...losing is never a good thing no matter who you lose too.

1) the NIT has a limited number of at large bids. if nw doesn't go dancing they are a LOCK for the NIT. if you want to root for nw to get snubbed that's fine but there can be no debate that's bad for Iowas NIT chances.

2) I agree that I like our resume better than MN. that said a win in the first round gives them 20 wins, and its possible the selection committee takes them over 17 win Iowa.

3) I don't think we necessarily need to win two in the BTT to get an NIT bid.

 

[Doublewide]

I disagree duff:

I don't think either make it either way. As much as I hate to say it I want Iowa to win to end the Weber era, that being said I don't think that gets you guys in the NIT.

I just threw up in my mouth after saying that......

 

[sportstalent]

Duff: I am rooting against the bubble and every power six school on it. I want more mid-majors in the tournament, they have proven it in the past and want to see more get a real shot.

Teams like NW, Texas I am rooting against.

Iowa cannot go 1-1 in the BTT and finish one game above .500 and go to the NIT.

 

[Gohawks123]

Duff: I am rooting against the bubble and every power six school on it. I want more mid-majors in the tournament, they have proven it in the past and want to see more get a real shot.

Teams like NW, Texas I am rooting against.

Iowa cannot go 1-1 in the BTT and finish one game above .500 and go to the NIT.

Agree. Iowa has a 0% chance to make the NIT finishing 1 game over .500 with a weak strength of schedule. Gotta beat MSU somehow.

 

[DuffMan]

ask yourself this. if Iowa and NW both win their first round BTT game who from the b10 gets an NIT bid over Iowa?

If you think the B10 ain't getting arc least one in the NIT you are kidding yourself.

 

[sportstalent]

ask yourself this. if Iowa and NW both win their first round BTT game who from the b10 gets an NIT bid over Iowa?

If you think the B10 ain't getting arc least one in the NIT you are kidding yourself.

Ask yourself this...if Iowa wins two games in the BTT tournament are they a lock for the NIT?

Also, I am not suggesting that the BIG gets just one team in...they will have two minimum, potentially three if NW gets knocked off.

The premise of losing helping your chances into the postseason is not the best arguement. It really is not very intelligent when it comes down to it. Iowa has to win in the BTT and everything esle will take care of itself, even if they beat NW, they still have to win the first one and possibly the second. When it comes down to it Iowa has to win two of its last three games to get in...not be one game above .500.
Iowa's conference resume is very good, but not so good out of conference. A win over Ill/MSU (a top 10 program) would solidify the NIT, nothing else and I do not care what the other teams do or don't do. Teams have to win to get into postseason, not lose to bubble teams and have a record barely over .500.

 

[DuffMan]

ask yourself this. if Iowa and NW both win their first round BTT game who from the b10 gets an NIT bid over Iowa? If you think the B10 ain't getting arc least one in the NIT you are kidding yourself.

Ask yourself this...if Iowa wins two games in the BTT tournament are they a lock for the NIT? Also, I am not suggesting that the BIG gets just one team in...they will have two minimum, potentially three if NW gets knocked off. The premise of losing helping your chances into the postseason is not the best arguement. It really is not very intelligent when it comes down to it. Iowa has to win in the BTT and everything esle will take care of itself, even if they beat NW, they still have to win the first one and possibly the second. When it comes down to it Iowa has to win two of its last three games to get in...not be one game above .500.Iowa's conference resume is very good, but not so good out of conference. A win over Ill/MSU (a top 10 program) would solidify the NIT, nothing else and I do not care what the other teams do or don't do. Teams have to win to get into postseason, not lose to bubble teams and have a record barely over .500.

I think you are in the wrong thread.

 

[DuffMan]

and yes if they win two in the BTT they are a lock for the NIT

 

[sportstalent]

I think you are in the wrong thread.

Not in the wrong thread, they blend together, you suggested that NW losing is bad for Iowa, but my point is Iowa has to win two in BTT is the only way they get in, or win 2 of last 3, which could have included a win against NW and Ill, then a loss to MSU.

Iowa will not get in with a record of one game above .500...sorry I don't agree with you and I normally do.

 

[DuffMan]

I think you are in the wrong thread.

Not in the wrong thread, they blend together, you suggested that NW losing is bad for Iowa, but my point is Iowa has to win two in BTT is the only way they get in, or win 2 of last 3, which could have included a win against NW and Ill, then a loss to MSU. Iowa will not get in with a record of one game above .500...sorry I don't agree with you and I normally do.

that's fine you think Iowa needs two to go NIT, but not thinking a NW win and NCAA bid helps Iowa is just silly.