Interesting quote from Stanley at the combine

Look, I hope NS does well and wish zero ill will....but

I think his footwork problems have to do w anxiety and having to quickly work through progressions in real time.

Said it 1000x his problems are mental and not physical. So sell this to improve stock as he will shine in the underwear football skills at competition and combine, that’s great for him.

Put him in a game/live situation I believe he turtles up and doesn’t swing a big stick(I do and many ladies can attest to this fact) JMHO

So I’m reading this as him justifying his issues and in underwear Olympics he has everything you looking for in a prospect.

Put him in a real game I think we see the same NS that wasn’t clutch, over/under/behind on throws that should be easy money for him continue.

Guess Petras is the proof in the pudding so we shall find out soon.
 
Maybe KOK did talk with him about mechanics but he just wasn't listening or his anxiety caused him to forget.

Two sides to every story.
 
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pootspot said:
Put him in a real game I think we see the same NS that wasn’t clutch, over/under/behind on throws that should be easy money for him continue.
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Yeah, that's what would scare me about drafting him. I still think CJB was our best NFL prospect bince Chuck Long, but if we had a better interior line I think Stanley had a shot to be neck and neck with him. It's hard to isolate which of his mental problems are his versus which are his total fear about the collapse of the middle of the o-line.

The games where we needed him to be clutch, like PSU, Michigan, Wisconsin, etc., tended to be the games where we could muster jack shit on offense because at least one guy on the middle of the line got shit trucked or just whiffed on about 40 plays, so I understand where the happy feet came from. Pressure up the middle is the worst for the QB's head because it takes his focus and the shots up the middle are the ones where guys fall on you. Someone's gonna take this guy in a middle round and if they can bench him for a few years and have a decent line, he could be an epic value pick or else he'll just flame like 80-90% of the other mid round QBs. I think there's huge potential upside, but I'd wait a long time to draft him to find out. Knocks are definitely the "intangibles" and I'm not totally sure he can hit NFL windows the way CJB did.
 
guffus said:
Yes, the article does go into more detail about this

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He is working with a quarterback coach, Tony Racioppi in New Jersey, and drilling away at the mechanics of his lower body to make sure he is using his hips to generate power instead of bending at the waist and overusing his elbow.

It’s the first time he’s ever addressed his mechanical problems, he said, particularly the issues which have led him to sail the ball on deep passes.

"I never really worked with anybody (on mechanics),” Stanley said. “I was just throwing a football like I would throw a baseball when I was a kid.”

Stanley added that the focus at Iowa was primarily on strategy and less about mechanics.

“They worked on a lot of footwork. It wasn’t really the width of your base — it was more so just timing things up with your feet. And the explanation of why you missed throws wasn’t always there,” Stanley said.
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So basicly Stanley was a 3 year starter at Iowa and not once did the Iowa coaches work on throwing mechanics. Only footwork. That is hard to believe
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It is hard to believe.

Why would a coaching staff concentrate on just a couple mechanics like footwork but drop the ball coaching other areas that could help their QB and success of the team?

Doesn't make sense. Should go hand-in-hand.
 
SpiderRico said:
Once again, the offensive coaches (OC and QB coach) aren't there to spend time working on the mechanics of throwing a football. They are there to work with the QB on specific plays, reading defenses, tendencies, strategies against specific coverages, etc. If the QB is having mechanical issues, then that's why there are QB camps that he can attend during the off-season. Any insinuation that the coaches at Iowa dropped the ball on fixing specific throwing mechanics with Nate is ill-informed.
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This is BS. Why would a coaching staff only worry about the end result by teaching how to play QB but not worry about the foundation such as with throwing technique? If the chances go down of being successful because ya lacked training the mechanics, the whole point is moot about teaching the QB position. They go hand in hand.

Maybe Iowa lacks in this area like you state, but I wouldn't put the blanket statement out there that offensive or QB coaches are only concerned with teaching how to play the position and not interested in mechanics.
 
I've never been a QB but I think the throwing mechanics in a lot of ways are like changing a golf swing ... which I have done. Even a pro golfer will tell you it takes months on the practice range to reprogram the muscle memory for a significant swing change. Some golf pros claim for most people it's around 10,000 swings before it really feels normal and until then you typically will revert back to your old form when under pressure.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
This is BS. Why would a coaching staff only worry about the end result by teaching how to play QB but not worry about the foundation such as with throwing technique? If the chances go down of being successful because ya lacked training the mechanics, the whole point is moot about teaching the QB position. They go hand in hand.

Maybe Iowa lacks in this area like you state, but I wouldn't put the blanket statement out there that offensive or QB coaches are only concerned with teaching how to play the position and not interested in mechanics.
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Look at Hawk1960's post below yours. It's a muscle memory issue. If Jeff George walks into camp and has a cannon with a decent release but has a bit of a torquing sidearm motion, I ain't touching it. Only an idiot would try to change it. You need months of reps for the muscle memory to work itself out and if the kid can make the throws, you don't mess with it. You just don't have time with practice limits in the college game. That's why they do camps. Do the people on here bashing the staff understand the practice limitations in the NCAA? Yeah, it would be great to have unlimited time to work on mechanics, but unless you are LSU and can pay an "advisor" and have a QB in a grad transfer program where he's only taking online classes so he has 10 hours a day to work on mechanics and watch film aside from other practice and team duties, you just don't have time to perfect throwing mechanics. You cannot do it at the college level.
 
okeefe4prez said:
Look at Hawk1960's post below yours. It's a muscle memory issue. If Jeff George walks into camp and has a cannon with a decent release but has a bit of a torquing sidearm motion, I ain't touching it. Only an idiot would try to change it. You need months of reps for the muscle memory to work itself out and if the kid can make the throws, you don't mess with it. You just don't have time with practice limits in the college game. That's why they do camps. Do the people on here bashing the staff understand the practice limitations in the NCAA? Yeah, it would be great to have unlimited time to work on mechanics, but unless you are LSU and can pay an "advisor" and have a QB in a grad transfer program where he's only taking online classes so he has 10 hours a day to work on mechanics and watch film aside from other practice and team duties, you just don't have time to perfect throwing mechanics. You cannot do it at the college level.
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Yet, at every other position IOWA places a premium on teaching technique. Seems a bit contradictory
 
I would have thought they would have worked on mechanics in practice, spring practice, for example. Maybe they do, it's just not the hyper-focus practice he's getting now. What did Nate do to work on his mechanics in the offseason like he's doing now? Maybe he did, but he got bad advice, or something that didn't work for him. Maybe this guy explains it and teaches it in a way that clicks with Nate. We've all had good teachers and bad teachers, people who have made sense to us, while others, who probably know what they're talking about just don't make sense to us.

I don't think Nate was capping on the program, and he'd probably feel awful that it's being interpreted by some in that way.
 
I'm kind of in the middle on this subject.

Yes, tinkering with mechanics can backfire if not done correctly, and, yes, programs are limited in terms of time and resources Coaches have to prioritize which nuances on which to focus. You certainly would not want to tinker during the season.

However, it is very difficult to believe that we have a dedicated QB coach that wouldn't have taken the time to evaluate and teach mechanics, particularly if it was felt that improper mechanics were leading to poor accuracy (and, that's assuming that the implication in his statement that the focus didn't occur is true, which we simply don't know).

If a QB can improve mechanics in three days with a "guru," surely he could improve with the QB coach during several weeks of preparation during the spring and/or summer. It's quite difficult to imagine that KOK wouldn't have identified potential issues and worked with him at some point over the past two off-seasons or training camps.
 
RobHowe said:
Agree. I’m just kidding.

But, man, hold you asses it Petras shows any mechanical flaws. There will be hell to pay!
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I'm sure he has them, and we're just the crew to point them out to all, including the coaches.
 
So, I am guessing KOK gets at most 10 minutes a practice to work with the QB group by itself. That is not a lot of time to focus on one player let alone 4. Maybe footwork work is universally needed by all the QBs to improve timing on plays.

Or, Nate worded the answer to be in his favor. Or he just worded it badly.
 
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