Interesting quote from Stanley at the combine

[trj]

4.83 on the 2nd attempt. Overall, he looked more fluid than what I expected.

 

[revkev73]

Look, I hope NS does well and wish zero ill will....but

I think his footwork problems have to do w anxiety and having to quickly work through progressions in real time.

Said it 1000x his problems are mental and not physical. So sell this to improve stock as he will shine in the underwear football skills at competition and combine, that’s great for him.

Put him in a game/live situation I believe he turtles up and doesn’t swing a big stick(I do and many ladies can attest to this fact) JMHO

So I’m reading this as him justifying his issues and in underwear Olympics he has everything you looking for in a prospect.

Put him in a real game I think we see the same NS that wasn’t clutch, over/under/behind on throws that should be easy money for him continue.

Guess Petras is the proof in the pudding so we shall find out soon.

QB is the most important position on any FB team. NS has a slow head and poor mechanics after thousands of hours of Iowa coaching. It isn't that complicated.

 

[Thawki]

The Athletic article on this offers a bit more detail. His QB mechanics guys says that Stanley fixed his major issue in about 2-3 days of work (several hours per day). He also noted that is not the kind of thing you can do withn a college football practice because you only get a few minutes each day to dedicate to skill work, and most QB coaches are in their position more for their tactical knowledge than their proficiency with the minutia of mechanics.

If the College Football All-Stars Skills challenge is any indication, the work has paid off:

State Farm QB Accuracy Competition (amount of time to successfully complete all throws)

1. Big Ten – Nate Stanley, Iowa (18.1 seconds)
2. SEC – Riley Neal, Vanderbilt (23.4)
3. Wildcard – Jordan Love, Utah State (25.8)
4. Big 12 – Carter Stanley, Kansas (27.0)
5. ACC – Bryce Perkins, Virginia (35.6)
6. Pac-12 – Anthony Gordon, Washington State (44.4)

EXACTLY!!!!!

The article in The Athletic describes things perfectly. He wasn’t trying to be critical of anyone. But the mechanics coach was the one who went on to explain that wasn’t necessarily something that gets done in the context of a college coaching regimen due to time constraints imposed on players because of limits on practice time.

I can see how some here would want to place blame on KOK, but no one was doing that in this instance, except message board posters.

 

[Thawki]

I've never been a QB but I think the throwing mechanics in a lot of ways are like changing a golf swing ... which I have done. Even a pro golfer will tell you it takes months on the practice range to reprogram the muscle memory for a significant swing change. Some golf pros claim for most people it's around 10,000 swings before it really feels normal and until then you typically will revert back to your old form when under pressure.

This is one of the few intelligent and informed comments on this thread. GREAT POST!!!

 

[Robowe]

4.83 on the 2nd attempt. Overall, he looked more fluid than what I expected.

Agreed ...

 

[RobHowe]

 

[Hawk1960]

One of my favorite plays of the year ... we own the "black shirts".

 

[kameltoez102]

I don't enroll in any pay signs but those of you that have any information are they saying that Nate helped himself in the draft? I was surprised by his 40 time but didn't hear how he did or compared to others in his passing drills.

 

[ssckelley]

Bump, way better thread to discuss this than the Iowalaw guy.

I can't say that I'm not a little bit concerned about Stanley's statements. Here I thought the coaches WERE working on his mechanics as I did see improvements on his over throws in his Senior season.

 

[Ian Pike Hammer]

It would've been pretty cool if Nate could have spent these 3 days fixing is mechanics during a summer break a few years ago. Oh well.

EXACTLY!!!!

 

[Ian Pike Hammer]

Look at Hawk1960's post below yours. It's a muscle memory issue. If Jeff George walks into camp and has a cannon with a decent release but has a bit of a torquing sidearm motion, I ain't touching it. Only an idiot would try to change it. You need months of reps for the muscle memory to work itself out and if the kid can make the throws, you don't mess with it. You just don't have time with practice limits in the college game. That's why they do camps. Do the people on here bashing the staff understand the practice limitations in the NCAA? Yeah, it would be great to have unlimited time to work on mechanics, but unless you are LSU and can pay an "advisor" and have a QB in a grad transfer program where he's only taking online classes so he has 10 hours a day to work on mechanics and watch film aside from other practice and team duties, you just don't have time to perfect throwing mechanics. You cannot do it at the college level.[/QUO

Thats crap! Identify the faulty mechanics on tape [ or while visiting/watching him play] while the QB is still in high school; have hime work on it b4 he comes to campus [during the off season, so he does mess up his junior/senior seasons]. He has 3 quarters of a yr to get his 10,000 throws in, then comes into his freshman spring drills with a new skill set. I'd like to give Iowa coaches [another] free ride on this topic, but the truth is, they dropped the ball, its that simple.

 

[Ian Pike Hammer]

Look at Hawk1960's post below yours. It's a muscle memory issue. If Jeff George walks into camp and has a cannon with a decent release but has a bit of a torquing sidearm motion, I ain't touching it. Only an idiot would try to change it. You need months of reps for the muscle memory to work itself out and if the kid can make the throws, you don't mess with it. You just don't have time with practice limits in the college game. That's why they do camps. Do the people on here bashing the staff understand the practice limitations in the NCAA? Yeah, it would be great to have unlimited time to work on mechanics, but unless you are LSU and can pay an "advisor" and have a QB in a grad transfer program where he's only taking online classes so he has 10 hours a day to work on mechanics and watch film aside from other practice and team duties, you just don't have time to perfect throwing mechanics. You cannot do it at the college level.

I couldn't disagree with this more, repectfully.

 

[revkev73]

I have known two football coaches, personally, over the years. They both said the same thing, "Every football practice is designed around developing the OBs, nothing else matters. The other positions all adjust their practice time based on the OB needs: play adjustments, reading defenses, accuracy, touch, technique, etc."

Wouldn't Iowa plan their practices around Nate for like, 4 years? If so, how can it be said that "there just wasn't time to work with him?"

I don't get it. But it is puzzling and disappointing to hear NFL "experts" who actually draft players as a profession say that one of the big negatives of Stanley is that over three years of Iowa coaching, his statistics: accuracy, etc. got worse.

Kirk, any way you can help us understand this a bit?

 

[Ian Pike Hammer]

I have known two football coaches, personally, over the years. They both said the same thing, "Every football practice is designed around developing the OBs, nothing else matters. The other positions all adjust their practice time based on the OB needs: play adjustments, reading defenses, accuracy, touch, technique, etc."

Wouldn't Iowa plan their practices around Nate for like, 4 years? If so, how can it be said that "there just wasn't time to work with him?"

I don't get it. But it is puzzling and disappointing to hear NFL "experts" who actually draft players as a profession say that one of the big negatives of Stanley is that over three years of Iowa coaching, his statistics: accuracy, etc. got worse.

Kirk, any way you can help us understand this a bit?

So, what we really need to see is an HONEST post from both KOK and KF on the subject. I don't think we'd get one from either. Sorry. Kirk will hem and haw, KOK will protect his $600,000 a year job.

 

[homes]

I watched a show on the NFL Network today ion the 2005 draft. Aaron Rodgers was picked No. 24. Some clubs passed on him because they didn’t like his mechanics. They loved Alex Smith, in part because of his form. In other words, it doesn’t mean sh*t.

 

[BigD]

So, what we really need to see is an HONEST post from both KOK and KF on the subject. I don't think we'd get one from either. Sorry. Kirk will hem and haw, KOK will protect his $600,000 a year job.

Ive lost count are we going on 16 or 17 years in a row of not winning a conference title?

I think Master Kirk is a ninja warrior in the art of hem haw.

 

[revkev73]

Ive lost count are we going on 16 or 17 years in a row of not winning a conference title?

I think Master Kirk is a ninja warrior in the art of hem haw.

They key to longevity, in spite of not winning much of importance, is convincing the big donors, AD, and fan base that you have.

"Another bowl win, people still not happy, it is a tough job. I told Brian this when I hired him."

 

[BigD]

They key to longevity, in spite of not winning much of importance, is convincing the big donors, AD, and fan base that you have.

"Another bowl win, people still not happy, it is a tough job. I told Brian this when I hired him."

There have been nine Big Ten Championship games since it’s inception in 2011. That’s nine games. Iowa has been there only once in nine years.

Here’s Iowa’s competition for the West; Wisconsin (at one point Coach Fry beat this team 15 years in a row). Nebraska (Washed up program from a previous conference that doesn’t believe in defense). Illinois, Purdue, Minnesota, and Northwestern. Are you kidding me? One divisional championship in nine years. Sad and pathetic. Fry would have owned this division just as Wisconsin now does.

Season ten approaching. Kirk is due to say the least.

 

[revkev73]

There have been nine Big Ten Championship games since it’s inception in 2011. That’s nine games. Iowa has been there only once in nine years.

Here’s Iowa’s competition for the West; Wisconsin (at one point Coach Fry beat this team 15 years in a row). Nebraska (Washed up program from a previous conference that doesn’t believe in defense). Illinois, Purdue, Minnesota, and Northwestern. Are you kidding me? One divisional championship in nine years. Sad and pathetic. Fry would have owned this division just as Wisconsin now does.

Season ten approaching. Kirk is due to say the least.

Yet Kirk is pretty clear, "Wisconsin and Iowa are equals."

Problem solving 101, "Identify the Problem"

Ignoring it doesn't solve it, but who is keeping track anyhow? Locked in contracts for you and your kid.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

He's not the statue that some folks have tried pigeon holing him as. I mean he's not Lamar Jackson nobody is fooling themselves here. But he's not Tom Brady either. He can move and occasionally fight off rushers. You can use him in the roll out game. I like his game I always have. If he could be more consistent with his accuracy overall it'd do him a world of good. But the guy has an NFL body and game. With right team/coaches he could develop into a starter in the league.