DwayneTwill
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LOL. Hardly. You can have twitter. We have the rulebook.
Infield Fly was the right call.
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LOL. Hardly. You can have twitter. We have the rulebook.
Hawkeye11en1
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deanvogs
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BAHAHAHAHA....the rulebook proves it was a bad call. That was in no way shape or form an ordinary play....landed 10' from the nearest player.....
Hawkeye11en1
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BAHAHAHAHA....the rulebook proves it was a bad call. That was in no way shape or form an ordinary play....landed 10' from the nearest player.....
Show me where the rule book says ordinary play.... please. Ordinary effort.
And the SS was under it, for the thousandth time. Even had time to run out from underneath it.
BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
deanvogs
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This is what you call "under the ball" Wow, I didn't know that being nearly 10' from the ball was "under it". This is frame by frame of the play, as you can see the SS never even entered the darker shaded grass where the ball landed, was never really closer than 10' to the ball
The ball was behind him, and more toward center field as he had misjudged it, and was never going to get to it. I know you and Dwayne are too far down this rabbit hole to admit actual video proof (or the actual results of the play). Keep quoting the rule book and ordinary effort, but quit making up facts and saying that the SS was under the ball. Watch the video, listen to what Schilling and everyone else is saying, he was never under the ball. Maybe switch to another argument, or pretend that the video shows something different that it does. Either way I'm done PWNing the 2 of you.
Braves Cardinals Infield Fly Rule Blown Call - YouTube
Hawkeye11en1
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Ordinary effort is trotting back for a routine fly ball. That is what he was doing. MLB players don't SPRINT to the ball and then stand there. They casually go back to it when it is an ordinary play. Which is exactly what was happening. He may have been 4 ft in front of the ball but he was slowly backpedaling to make the play - when he thought he heard Holliday call him off - and he stopped and moved forward.
He was never going to get it? Holy crap how bad do you think MLB players are? You are the dumbest baseball fan - must be a Cubs fan - I have ever met. He was waving his arms calling for the baseball. He gives way to the left fielder if he calls for it, and he thought he did, so he stopped. This isn't that hard.
Watch the side replay! Holy crap he is 3 ft in front of it and drifting back as it comes down! I know you aren't trolling, but you are stupid. Which is just as bad.
Also, try reading that rule book one more time and actually quote something out of it once in a while. Twitter and your opinion are worse than wikipedia. Or Bleacher Report.
He was never going to get it? Holy crap how bad do you think MLB players are? You are the dumbest baseball fan - must be a Cubs fan - I have ever met. He was waving his arms calling for the baseball. He gives way to the left fielder if he calls for it, and he thought he did, so he stopped. This isn't that hard.
Watch the side replay! Holy crap he is 3 ft in front of it and drifting back as it comes down! I know you aren't trolling, but you are stupid. Which is just as bad.
Also, try reading that rule book one more time and actually quote something out of it once in a while. Twitter and your opinion are worse than wikipedia. Or Bleacher Report.
DwayneTwill
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The call was correct. The umpire made the right call.
Hawkeye11en1
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In a big game? That is the dumbest thing ever. That's like saying "don't call him out on strikes when it's the 9th inning!"
You call the play by the rules. Read the rule book.
I don't disagree that the SS would have caught it. Also it's a judgement call so there really isn't any way to say that the ump got it wrong because in his judgement he thought the infield fly was in play.
That said he did put his arm up to signal infield fly way, way too late. The ball is on it's way down and is only about 15 feet over the ground when he signaled, that was a mistake on his part.
As for the call itself, it was a bad judgement call and I think most other umps would tell you that. Was it the worst call I have ever seen? Far from it.
DwayneTwill
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It was a good call. The correct one. Called according to the rules of baseball.
deanvogs
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Terrible call, and anyone who has ever played the game agrees that it was a terrible call. Please cite for me where in the rule book it tells the ump to make a terrible judgement call?
DwayneTwill
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It's not surprising that you haven't read the rule book.
deanvogs
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HAHAHAHA, What kind of dipsh!t sits around reading a baseball rule book? Here you go, maybe you haven't brushed up on the "rule book" in awhile, it is a good 116 page read: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y2012/Official_Baseball_Rules.pdf After that, maybe you can recite for us the football and baseball rule books also....BAHAHAHAHAHA
Hawkeye11en1
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The ONE rule is only about 1 paragraph. Not surprised that you can't read that.
deanvogs
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Not sure why you and Dwayne keep referring to the rule book, as it is specifically stated that it is a judgement call by the ump: We have been over this like 20 times, what don't you get about a rule that specifically stated to be a judgement call. The umps judgement happend to be wrong on this one. It isn't the first time a judgement call has been blown, and it won't be the last.
Rule 2.00 (Infield Fly) Comment: On the infield fly rule the umpire is to rule whether the ball could ordinarily have been handled by an infielder - not by some arbitrary limitation such as the grass, or the base lines. The umpire must rule also that a ball is an infield fly, even if handled by an outfielder, if, in the umpire's judgment, the ball could have been as easily handled by an infielder. The infield fly is in no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpire's judgment must govern, and the decision should be made immediately.
BTW talk about not being able to read. Dwayne accused me of not reading the rule book, not just the rule in question. Parsing words, and playing gotcha is FUN. The two of you are doing an excellent job of trolling, as each time I think I am out of this thread, you keep pulling me right back in.....excellent work. In my JUDGEMENT, some of the finest trolling I have seen. But that is just my judgement, and it could be incorrect.
If you really believe that he was never going to catch it then you have clueless which pretty much goes with all the other garbage you have posted in this thread...which means you are a Cubs fan just trying to stir the pot or just don't have a clue about the sport of baseball
deanvogs
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Ok, I admit I was trolling when I said he wasn't going to catch the ball. The fact remains he was never under the ball, it was a judgement call, and a very, very bad one at that.....Only Cardinal fans think it was a good call, so I'm assuming you are one of them.
I am a Cardinals fan and I thought it was very questionable when it was made, was it a call that could be made per the rule book sure it could have, but not sure that is the call to be making at that point. And if he doesn't make any sound to call it I think Kozma still catches the ball...
