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Agreed. Boiler Up!
hawkeyebob62
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tksirius
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I know right. I was thinking 5 tds, but I was feeling nice today.
hawkdrummer1
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I too would love to see Purdue kick their ass in Lincoln. Frost needs to have his sh** brought down to earth.
Xerxes is a negative nelly.
I don't think Iowa would lose to Troy at home either but it shouldn't be taken for granted. And yes Troy did get killed by BSU, but Iowa probably also loses at BSU. It was just a few weeks ago when Iowa struggled for half of the game against Northern Illinois. Last year they struggled against North Texas and Illinois for a half. They've lost to an FCS school and MAC schools at Kinnick. Colorado is not FCS or MAC. They've won just as many PAC12 conference division titles as Iowa has won B1G West division titles.
Its called being realistic. Check the numbers since Norm and KOK left after 2011.
What cracks me up is the system itself.
#1 it doesn't do any Justice in preparing kids for the next level, where they don't play sand lot gimmicky ball.
#2 it was designed to give inferior teams a chance against Superior competition.
Thus the system was designed not for the kids, but to pad a coaches w/l record. To be able to play with and possibly beat a better team every once and awhile.
#3 it's extremely hard on qb's. They usually end up hurt. Plus they don't get drafted as much. But who cares, as long as the coaches w/l record looks ok.
Even Frost knows this. Otherwise why did he pull his starter after the first half last week? Because the game was already decided and no sense in risking (because the system has a high risk for the qb)
Injury to his starter. It's not because the kid doesn't need the reps. He's a freshman!!
Adam
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Your perception of things does not actually constitute reality.
My perception of things must also be a reality then. In my reality there are only 15-20 teams that beat Iowa with any thing close to a guarantee. None of those teams are ones that Nebraska have played.
You can't have it both ways.
I don't remember to many games in college football, real games (p5 against p5) where upper 50-60 points were on the board. Certainly not the number of games there are now days.
Is that because as a whole all defenses are worse? Is it because all offenses are better?
Is it because of rule changes?
I would guess that most everyone's, including Iowa's avg points in a season has increased.
That inherently means probably most teams defenses are giving up more points. So you can't have it both ways.
You don't see very many 10-7 or 7-3 scoring games anymore and I am impressed when I do.
I love a good defense. It makes the chess match much more interesting.
So have we been scoring more points in a season then we used to? Probably. But rarely do we give up 35-40 in a game like so many other teams do.
That's football. Score more than you give up.
But the days a really good chess match are fading.
Evidenced by the scores looking more like basketball scores when they scroll across the screen.
I didn't guarantee a thing, and yes you can believe or perceive anything you wish.
At about :20 the announcer says, "The awesome Nebraska Cornhuskers prove to the nation that they are the greatest national champions ever developed in the history of college football." lmao
tksirius
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The Minnesota Rodents literally have two more national championships than them.
Adam
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Minnesota has a rich history. They experienced the fall from grace that Nebraska has except Minnesota hit the bottom something like 50 years ago and has never climbed back. Couple of great seasons here or there, but nothing that close to consistent contention.
This is the key thing that I say Iowa fans are now spoiled brats for. We have become so accustomed to winning that we consider a 8 win season in a contemptuous light. Every new season brings new hope that this is the Iowa team that runs the table and brings us the ultimate glory. Then disappointment and dissent comes out in waves when we stumble from the path to immortality. There are only 5 fan bases that entered this season with expectations to win the B1G. OSU, PSU, Wisconsin, Iowa , and Nebraska. 2 of those fan bases are delusional. I will let you guess which 2.
The fact remains that Iowa has established a foundation that wins more than it loses. Over time that floor becomes unacceptable and all anyone wants and can accept is the "next level".
My advice remains don't take for granted the games we do win. Don't overlook them trying to rubber neck to see that mountain peak. Enjoy and appreciate the above average place that we have made a home. The next level is not guaranteed and in fact is way less likely than Iowa becoming bottom dwellers like Minnesota and Nebraska. Devaluing 9 and 10 win seasons because we didn't quite reach the ultimate goal will be zero comfort if and when Iowa cant find 6 wins on average.
All true. It's the competitive nature of the game though that drives coaches, players and fans to want and work for the next level.
That's life in a nutshell.
From education, to money, to sports, to playing music, to going to the Moon and Mars. It's human nature to strive to the next level.
Well the good ones anyway.
I know the numbers but KF, Norm, and KOK were not immune from tossing away many a game back in the days.
the 2005 first home loss in forever against Michigan in overtime was a nut kick as the hawks totally outplayed them for most of the game then went ultra conservative on both sides of the ball.
I was at Evanston when the great last two minute collapse happened again I think in 2005 just after I think the above mentioned game where Iowa had 4 times the total yards as jNW but only led 27-14 with 2 minutes to go and you know wtf happened. Another ultra conservative Norm defense, botch an onside kick recovery, give up another td in a span of two minutes and lose.
Lots of games like that up to and including 2010 and 2011. I have been posting on here for 13 years about how KF's conservatism and bad clock and game mgmt has cost the players probably 20 wins.
I try to be a little more upbeat thinking the players might make a few more plays to overcome the overall conservative coaching. Again I didnt like the going on 4th down last week on the first drive becasue I thought points would be at a premium and a FG is about 97% from there. Never leave a game or drive in the hands of the zebras making a good spot on third or 4th down. I also didnt think we would have even 8 or 9 possessions but actually the defense forced a lot of short Wisky drives.
I will remain positive but I am always ready for the 4th qtr blues to rear their ugly head.
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Adam
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Yes. I too want to taste glory. We have been so close that I believe that I actually know what it tastes like. I absolutely condone the coaches and players striving for better. They are the competitors. If they ever stop trying to achieve more than our ship is sank. I'm even for fans being ravenous in the desire for winning championships. I understand disappointment. I understand frustration about plays left on the field that kept us from keeping the light of hope alive.
What I don't understand or relate to is the "either you're first or you're last" complex that sections of every fan base has. I don't understand temper tantrums about young men that we don't even know, not being good enough. I don't understand bashing a coaching staff that almost always has us in a position to seize an opportunity to be great. These are things that I just don't understand.
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AreWeThereYet
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Nebraska and Michigan State
Adam
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I believe this is completely natural. It is the feeling of suspense developed by results taken from an extended period of time. The one thing that I point to is almost every game we go into we know that we have a chance. I don't believe there are many fanbases that have that.
Adam
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MSU wasn't on my list. Their fan base had no delusions of winning the East coming into the season.