If you have any doubts…

[Fryowa]

I really think Lester has changed the O significantly in the run game. Variety of blocking theories used, interesting misdirection, pre-snap motion, head set with QB. Play calling more imaginative, for sure. Jury is out on the pass game, but I see some flashes.

The Sullivan packages we're seeing I don't think we'd be seeing without Lester. I just wish there was more of it.

Sullivan strikes me as a Beathard/Stanzi/Tate personality. I have no idea if he can play as well, but having the attitude and toughness of those three would be 90% of the equation.

CJ wasn't an overly athletic guy but I've never seen a tougher one put the jersey on. Down the stretch in '15/'16 he was going on pure adrenaline banged up from top to bottom.

I'll put it this way...

I met Nate and Spencer a couple times each briefly. Both were very well-spoken and ridiculously nice guys. I mean no offense by this at all, but those aren't the Iowa QBs I'm choosing to go to war with and get shot at. CJ, Ricky, and Tate had that intangible confidence and badassery that you knew they were scared of nothing and wanted to be on that field with their bros no matter what freight train was coming at them. Beathard limped off of that field many many times like he just got hit by a bus and the next drive he was scrambling around the edge diving into linebackers going full speed to try and get a few extra inches and a first down. Your teammates feed off that and it's contagious.

Nate and Petras when shit hit the fan they had the oh my god look on their faces and you could tell they weren't ok. If you've ever seen someone get punched in the face for the first time you know the look I'm talking about. And it's ok. Not everyone's built that way. Some people thrive on being in front of 70,000 people on 3rd and 11 knowing the other team is bringing the house.

 

[SwirlinLingerie]

The only two crucial ones are Woods and Parker.

Parker is gone either way. 26 years with one boss who you like and who you know probably better than anyone on earth. Woods nor Wallace are going to tell Parker how to run his squad and if it's an outsider the whole staff is gone anyway. So when KF leaves, there's no scenario Parker stays.

Woods, he's gone too. He's got lots of HC interest and he's also not going to work under Wallace. Again, an outsider is going to bring in his own gang and clean house.

Wallace, if he gets the job I'm respectfully saying I'm bowing out of Iowa football until the day he's fired or quits. I won't support someone who did what he did to Kallenberger. No way. He's a disgusting human being. I know what ADD can do to a kid first hand under the best of circumstances, let alone with a scumbag like this bullying you off the team, posting your grades, and making life miserable for you...If you forgot the details I suggest anyone goes and checks out Kallenberger's twitter posts about what he had done to him.

I mean just look at this POS...Any of us born from 1975 on had a kid who looked just like this in the halls just waiting for someone to come along they could toss in a locker or call a "f****t." Eff Seth Wallace.
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Mind you, I'm not done with Iowa football permanently after that happens, just until he's gone. If he's the new HC, I hope Iowa loses every single game they play and he's run off as a laughing stock to some high school assistant job in Kalamazoo.

Yep, that's how I really feel and I HATE it because I think there's a very real and very stupid chance he gets it.Is

Is your perception of Wallace based exclusively on the Kallenberger incident?

For what it's worth, I don't think Goetz will put much weight into the associate head coach title. My guess is she has a list of outside candidates, some of whom might be long shots, and she'll discreetly find out which ones have interest once the opening occurs. And then she'll also interview a couple internal candidates. I'm also guessing she's done a lot of leg work behind the scenes to get a feel for those internal candidates - and that picture may or may not align with the associate head coach title.

Ultimately I don't think Kirk's opinion will have much impact on the decision; I think he'll have far less pull than Hayden did. And certainly far less than influence than if Barta was still AD.

 

[NorthKCHawk]

Is your perception of Wallace based exclusively on the Kallenberger incident?

For what it's worth, I don't think Goetz will put much weight into the associate head coach title. My guess is she has a list of outside candidates, some of whom might be long shots, and she'll discreetly find out which ones have interest once the opening occurs. And then she'll also interview a couple internal candidates. I'm also guessing she's done a lot of leg work behind the scenes to get a feel for those internal candidates - and that picture may or may not align with the associate head coach title.

Ultimately I don't think Kirk's opinion will have much impact on the decision; I think he'll have far less pull than Hayden did. And certainly far less than influence than if Barta was still AD.

+1

If Beth has to put KF out to pasture, he won't want a voice or get a voice in who replaces him.

If there is sort of a mutual retirement, Beth will hear him out, but that is about it.

In the dream scenario where KF makes the playoffs, somehow pulls off 12 wins, and hangs 'em up on top (Bluder style), he probably will have a voice in it and keeping the staff together and elevating someone may make some sense just like it did with WBB.

Because I don't see that the dream scenario is going to materialize, I suspect the search will consider both an internal promotion and a strong look at a new direction outside the existing staff. I trust Beth to make the right call here.

Honestly, if you forced me to elevate someone from the existing staff, I would actually choose Lester. Iowa will need a change in direction and a tweak in culture when replacing a dinosaur/legendary coach, and the staff that has been here forever will likely just try to recreate what KF does but won't be as good at it.

 

[#1DieHardHawk]

When the time comes, my guess is that somewhere, somehow, someone will plant a bug in her ear about what happened with Wallace and Kallenberger.

In this day and age of micro-vetting overkill, it will come to the forefront. How much significance she places on that information remains to be seen. At the very least, I'm sure she will confront Wallace with it and gauge his reaction and response.

Kirk may frustrate the fanbase at times, but I wouldn't be shocked at all if 30 years from now, fans will be wishing Iowa football could return to these days... No, he's not perfect, but very few people would not agree that he has always been a class act and has worked diligently to run an honest program that placed a tremendous emphasis on character and family.

 

[Fryowa]

+1

If Beth has to put KF out to pasture, he won't want a voice or get a voice in who replaces him.

If there is sort of a mutual retirement, Beth will hear him out, but that is about it.

In the dream scenario where KF makes the playoffs, somehow pulls off 12 wins, and hangs 'em up on top (Bluder style), he probably will have a voice in it and keeping the staff together and elevating someone may make some sense just like it did with WBB.

Because I don't see that the dream scenario is going to materialize, I suspect the search will consider both an internal promotion and a strong look at a new direction outside the existing staff. I trust Beth to make the right call here.

Honestly, if you forced me to elevate someone from the existing staff, I would actually choose Lester. Iowa will need a change in direction and a tweak in culture when replacing a dinosaur/legendary coach, and the staff that has been here forever will likely just try to recreate what KF does but won't be as good at it.

I would be on board with Lester. I like what’s he’s been allowed to do so far and he’s pretty refreshing when he gets interviewed. We’ve had 26 years of “that’s football” with zero specifics. I like his philosophy. If KF gets a voice it won’t be Lester because that’s who replaced the golden child obviously, but if that happened I wouldn’t be mad.

 

[Fryowa]

In this day and age of micro-vetting overkill, it will come to the forefront. How much significance she places on that information remains to be seen. At the very least, I'm sure she will confront Wallace with it and gauge his reaction and response.

Is your perception of Wallace based exclusively on the Kallenberger incident?

I’ve heard directly from the mouth of someone I trust who was on the team when all that went down, and who is close with both Kallenberger brothers that when Jack, Jack’s dad, and Kallenberger “talked,” Wallace was not apologetic whatsoever refused to acknowledge what he did, refused to even talk about the grades posting thing because he didn’t want to get sued and fired. He painted it as being unintentional and all misunderstandings instead of taking ownership. You’ll notice how Wallace was the only one who acknowledged talking and I guarantee you it’s only because he was trying to save some face. Something like that why wouldn’t you sit down with Jack’s family and a neutral party? I think we all know why.

Guy’s a huge piece of sh*t and my only hope is if he does get it they do to him what they did to Doyle when Urban hired him.

 

[guffus]

Phil Parker has earned the right to be the first one offered the head coaching job if Kirk retires.

 

[HuckFinn]

I never used to but after they gave him that fake associate head coach title I started to think there was some kind of back channel madness going on that he's potentially going to be the one.

Here's where I sit...

Phil won't stay after KF leaves for the reasons I outlined above.

Woods is in my opinion the best guy on the current staff. I know the guy, I've talked to lots of his former players, and I've heard from people very in the know that Woods wants it and wants to be a head coach. He's turned down P4 coordinator interest from other places. He's an Iowa guy through and through and has deep roots put down with his family to this point and doesn't want to move. However, this Wallace deal has to have put a dark cloud over Woods' future here unfortunately.

My hope now is that when KF leaves Beth Goetz will either hire Woods or someone from outside and Wallace will leave whether voluntarily or involuntarily. Unfortunately I'm not holding my breath for LeVar. That doesn't translate to me wanting Kirk fired. But I know he's not going to last forever.

If Wallace becomes HC I will shift my fandom temporarily to wherever LW goes and root for them. If it's Chattanooga State then I guess I'm buying some Chattanooga State hoodies. The Hawkeye football program is bigger than Seth Wallace, but I can't root for a team with that guy as the face of it. No way could I look my kid in the face if I did. He's young and full of piss and vinegar and a rabid Hawkeye fan so I won't try to get him to follow my lead, but for me I'm done.

Yup.

 

[HuckFinn]

Phil Parker has earned the right to be the first one offered the head coaching job if Kirk retires.

Yup

 

[HuckFinn]

The Sullivan packages we're seeing I don't think we'd be seeing without Lester. I just wish there was more of it.

Sullivan strikes me as a Beathard/Stanzi/Tate personality. I have no idea if he can play as well, but having the attitude and toughness of those three would be 90% of the equation.

CJ wasn't an overly athletic guy but I've never seen a tougher one put the jersey on. Down the stretch in '15/'16 he was going on pure adrenaline banged up from top to bottom.

I'll put it this way...

I met Nate and Spencer a couple times each briefly. Both were very well-spoken and ridiculously nice guys. I mean no offense by this at all, but those aren't the Iowa QBs I'm choosing to go to war with and get shot at. CJ, Ricky, and Tate had that intangible confidence and badassery that you knew they were scared of nothing and wanted to be on that field with their bros no matter what freight train was coming at them. Beathard limped off of that field many many times like he just got hit by a bus and the next drive he was scrambling around the edge diving into linebackers going full speed to try and get a few extra inches and a first down. Your teammates feed off that and it's contagious.

Nate and Petras when shit hit the fan they had the oh my god look on their faces and you could tell they weren't ok. If you've ever seen someone get punched in the face for the first time you know the look I'm talking about. And it's ok. Not everyone's built that way. Some people thrive on being in front of 70,000 people on 3rd and 11 knowing the other team is bringing the house.

Very tough to argue this reaction.

 

[HuckFinn]

+1

If Beth has to put KF out to pasture, he won't want a voice or get a voice in who replaces him.

If there is sort of a mutual retirement, Beth will hear him out, but that is about it.

In the dream scenario where KF makes the playoffs, somehow pulls off 12 wins, and hangs 'em up on top (Bluder style), he probably will have a voice in it and keeping the staff together and elevating someone may make some sense just like it did with WBB.

Because I don't see that the dream scenario is going to materialize, I suspect the search will consider both an internal promotion and a strong look at a new direction outside the existing staff. I trust Beth to make the right call here.

Honestly, if you forced me to elevate someone from the existing staff, I would actually choose Lester. Iowa will need a change in direction and a tweak in culture when replacing a dinosaur/legendary coach, and the staff that has been here forever will likely just try to recreate what KF does but won't be as good at it.

Had not considered that. Interesting for sure.

 

[HuckFinn]

Is your perception of Wallace based exclusively on the Kallenberger incident?

For what it's worth, I don't think Goetz will put much weight into the associate head coach title. My guess is she has a list of outside candidates, some of whom might be long shots, and she'll discreetly find out which ones have interest once the opening occurs. And then she'll also interview a couple internal candidates. I'm also guessing she's done a lot of leg work behind the scenes to get a feel for those internal candidates - and that picture may or may not align with the associate head coach title.

Ultimately I don't think Kirk's opinion will have much impact on the decision; I think he'll have far less pull than Hayden did. And certainly far less than influence than if Barta was still AD.

The Kallenberger incident was not a one time thing. I spent a lot of energy during my 40 years as a public school guy fighting like hell for special needs kids from any category. Two of my kids and so far one grandkid have moved in that direction. I have no time for ignorance.

 

[HuckFinn]

The Kallenberger incident was not a one time thing. I spent a lot of energy during my 40 years as a public school guy fighting like hell for special needs kids from any category. Two of my kids and so far one grandkid have moved in that direction. I have no time for ignorance.

BTW, I think it is fair that you asked the question, Swirlin’. Meant no offense.

 

[#1DieHardHawk]

I’ve heard directly from the mouth of someone I trust who was on the team when all that went down, and who is close with both Kallenberger brothers that when Jack, Jack’s dad, and Kallenberger “talked,” Wallace was not apologetic whatsoever refused to acknowledge what he did, refused to even talk about the grades posting thing because he didn’t want to get sued and fired. He painted it as being unintentional and all misunderstandings instead of taking ownership. You’ll notice how Wallace was the only one who acknowledged talking and I guarantee you it’s only because he was trying to save some face. Something like that why wouldn’t you sit down with Jack’s family and a neutral party? I think we all know why.

Guy’s a huge piece of sh*t and my only hope is if he does get it they do to him what they did to Doyle when Urban hired him.

Just to clarify, I don't know if I was being clear, but I was agreeing with you on Wallace. Just pointing out that if he is considered, someone undoubtedly will bring it to her attention.

 

[SwirlinLingerie]

BTW, I think it is fair that you asked the question, Swirlin’. Meant no offense.

I agree it was pretty bad, at least from what I recall. But if it wasn't a one time thing, what else is there on Wallace that leads one to determining he is a huge piece of shit? I haven't heard other stories - doesn't mean they aren't out there. I generally think Phil and Kirk are pretty good judges of character. Doesn't mean they haven't been wrong in the past...but curious if there is anything out there besides Kallenberger.

 

[dagdaj]

Kirk may frustrate the fanbase at times, but I wouldn't be shocked at all if 30 years from now, fans will be wishing Iowa football could return to these days... No, he's not perfect, but very few people would not agree that he has always been a class act and has worked diligently to run an honest program that placed a tremendous emphasis on character and family.

I'm here in Missouri. And I've watched that fanbase go through the next great hope as a head coach so many times now, only to turn on him the second it goes sour. They were ready to burn Drinkowitz for two seasons, when clearly he was slowly turning the ship. Finally, this season, they get some pre-season sellouts for the first time in eons. And a good Texas A&M team gives them the ole' whatfor and people are again calling for his head.

I've said it over and over again. I was irrationally mad at Kirk when he took over. Because they lost too many games they should have won. And, it just wasn't good for my soul, or my messageboarding. That em-effer has given me soooo many moments of joy. Sure, not the absolute bliss of a title, or even national title.

Sure, still capable of losing games. But, as I see it...I could be a Mizzou fan. Or Iowa State. Or Kansas. Or Indiana. Or Illinois, Purdue, Maryland, Rutgers...and about 130 other teams. You can call me the "you settle for mediocre" guy, but there are few programs I'd trade my 35 years of fandom for. You can count 'em on maybe 2 hands and a foot.

 

[Hawkboys]

You can call me the "you settle for mediocre" guy, but there are few programs I'd trade my 35 years of fandom for. You can count 'em on maybe 2 hands and a foot.

And every single one of them have NIL $$ that IA will just never have. And a lot of programs with NIL $$ more than IA still aren't as productive in W/Ls.

 

[Fryowa]

...I wouldn't be shocked at all if 30 years from now, fans will be wishing Iowa football could return to these days...

That is without a doubt, 100% going to happen. The idiotic rubes here saying he needs to go have no clue how good Iowa has had it for the past 46 years.

Two head coaches in 46 years.

34 out of 45 winning seasons

34 Bowl appearances.

21 AP poll final rankings

155 draft picks since 1979 never missing a year.

You people are out of your minds. Complete dipshits. Name for me the group of schools that have done the above, then name me the group that hasn't, and then tell me which one you'd rather be in. Then look at the group Iowa is in and compare the resources of all those other schools. But keep on bitching and pissing and moaning and crying with the rest of the fake fans like @BigD

Just so we're clear...none of the schools in either of those groups has done the above with two coaches in 46 years (and counting).

 

[NorthKCHawk]

That is without a doubt, 100% going to happen. The idiotic rubes here saying he needs to go have no clue how good Iowa has had it for the past 46 years.

Two head coaches in 46 years.

34 out of 45 winning seasons

34 Bowl appearances.

21 AP poll final rankings

155 draft picks since 1979 never missing a year.

You people are out of your minds. Complete dipshits. Name for me the group of schools that have done the above, then name me the group that hasn't, and then tell me which one you'd rather be in. Then look at the group Iowa is in and compare the resources of all those other schools. But keep on bitching and pissing and moaning and crying with the rest of the fake fans like @BigD

Just so we're clear...none of the schools in either of those groups has done the above with two coaches in 46 years (and counting).

+1

 

[Fryowa]

My earlier post got me thinking about draft picks and looking at first rounders. I came across a name you don't really hear much about these days but I remembered him and found this gem...

https://www.rrobserver.com/sports/r...cle_35e177e7-9f8f-5fb9-83d8-c727c4d4be12.html

Yeah. We should take guys like HF and KF and boot 'em out because they lost to ISU and the next Nick Saban has a 1 in 1,000,000,000,000 chance of getting hired next.