If Kinnick would get renovated again???

I would like to see the corners closed in. Never an upper deck. I know it is good for crowd noise, but the seats are not good. That is what is great about Kinnick. Not a bad seat in the house.
 
What about another pressbox on the other side, would look sweet, increase noise, and add club seat which means more money.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing the corners closed in, even though I do like the look of the stadium as is. As for the logo at midfield, a Tigerhawk would be cool, but a simple "I" would be cool too. I like the way OSU's "O" looks on the 50 in The Shoe.
 
I agree with the North Endzone modifications.You could make wider isles and add a few rows at the top and maybe a couple more inches for my big butt.
 
Closing in South End Zone and would be nice for sure and paint the water tower would be a big improvement for sure.
 
As somebody that has seats in Section 131 in the NW corner of the stadium, I am all for bowling in the north end of Kinnick if it will cut down on the wind that whips through that corner. (Sorry, I'm a nancy-boy who hates having to bundle up at a game when it's sunny and 60.)
 
This is a funny thread. They aren't going to fill in the corners. Why people keep asking about that, or even talking about that is beyond me. If you know anything about it, it's simply not possible.

There are new construction requirements in terms of the steepness allowed (since the original east and west sides were constructed) and under the new construction guidelines, there is/was no way to bowl in the south end zone and make it match up to the existing east/west sides, thus, it was built the way it exists today.

Filling in those corners simply isn't going to happen.

As far as another press box with luxury seats on the east side, that isn't going to happen either as there is a roadway directly behind the east side and it's the access to the hospital. It might all be fun to think about, but none of it is going to happen.
 
Hawkeye101 said:
This is a funny thread. They aren't going to fill in the corners. Why people keep asking about that, or even talking about that is beyond me. If you know anything about it, it's simply not possible.

There are new construction requirements in terms of the steepness allowed (since the original east and west sides were constructed) and under the new construction guidelines, there is/was no way to bowl in the south end zone and make it match up to the existing east/west sides, thus, it was built the way it exists today.

Filling in those corners simply isn't going to happen.

As far as another press box with luxury seats on the east side, that isn't going to happen either as there is a roadway directly behind the east side and it's the access to the hospital. It might all be fun to think about, but none of it is going to happen.
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BUZZKILL :p

Anyhow I guess that just leaves an upperdeck somehow in the North End zone, the painted water tower, and an I in the middle of the field IF anything were too happen.
 
Hawkeye101 said:
This is a funny thread. They aren't going to fill in the corners. Why people keep asking about that, or even talking about that is beyond me. If you know anything about it, it's simply not possible.

There are new construction requirements in terms of the steepness allowed (since the original east and west sides were constructed) and under the new construction guidelines, there is/was no way to bowl in the south end zone and make it match up to the existing east/west sides, thus, it was built the way it exists today.

Filling in those corners simply isn't going to happen.

As far as another press box with luxury seats on the east side, that isn't going to happen either as there is a roadway directly behind the east side and it's the access to the hospital. It might all be fun to think about, but none of it is going to happen.
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Your right about the roadway, parking garage, and the hospital iterance the only thing I would disagree with is that it couldn’t be done. It could be done but not without some major reconstruction being done to the whole area. I think that is the biggest reason they haven’t done it. They have a waiting list now of several thousand people wanting tickets so the demand is there but the cost of doing such a project would be unbelievably high. I remember when they first started to talk about the renovation; the idea was brought up about building another stadium somewhere else just because of the problems expanding Kinnick would bring. I think there are other ways to bring the capacity up by a couple thousand but that’s about the best you’re going to get unless you want to spend some really big bucks.
 
I wouldn't want the corners closed in even if it could be done. I like the look and I like the vantage point of the field they offer in the event I can't get to my seat for the team enterance or I get up and stretch my legs for a bit.

I think making the North end zone look like the South would be cool, but it would likely require moving that road and eliminating that parking lot between the stadium and the practice facility which would be difficult at best. I think what we have is what we are going to get and am happy with it.
 
nationalchamps said:
There are still long lines for the bathrooms and concession stands - those need to be addressed......again.
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You know I've started going to the bathroom about halfway through the 1st quarter and halfway through the 3rd quarter and I never see a line longer than one deep at the urinal in front of me. The long lines aren't due to poor design, it's due to 30k people trying to take a pi55 at the same time.
 
I have always thought they should rebuild the north endzone and expand it back over the street (tunnel) behind. They should also rebuild the parking ramp back there and have it attached to the north end zone structure so that it would have direct access to the stadium. They could let the high rollers who don't tailgate in the parking lot park there. That parking complex could also house a clubhouse (dining) and some retail space so that some of the souvenir tents could be moved from Melrose to that area.

It's too late now but I also though it would have been a great idea to have built a Hawkeye Station along the train tracks where fans board and disembark the Hawkeye Express. The Hawkeye Station could have had retail and food space and diverted some of the foot traffic off of Melrose. I believe they have a street running parallel to the tracks now.
 
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I think the University is very happy with a 70,000 and change capacity. I think that they believe that Iowa just doesn't have a big enough population and alumni base to, year in and year out, sell out a larger stadium. Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State have some of the largest alumni bases in the country, as well as a large population base, to draw from, so yes, 100,000+ works for them.

Sell outs are very important to athletics departments. Besides non-sell outs looking really crappy on TV, and being bad for recruiting, why spend all of that money building capacity when there is no guarantee it will get used and return the investment?

On the surface, it seems like common sense that bigger is always better, and as a matter of selfish pride we'd all love to match up numerically with UM, OSU and PSU, but we are who we are, a low population, rural state. Des Moines would be a relatively small town in Ohio. As small as we are, we need to be VERY PROUD that we almost always actually do sell out 70,000+.

When/if they ever renovate Kinnick again, unless the population of Iowa tops 5 million by then (by 2060, who knows!), there is next to no chance that they will increase the capacity.
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Nebraska is expanding their stadium to 90,000 by 2013. I know there is NOTHING to do in Nebraska on a Saturday afternoon. (or any day for that matter..) But the Iowa fan support is pretty awesome as well. And seeing as Nebraska has 1.3 million people fewer than Iowa, I'd say that the population argument isn't fully accurate. While population is big, fan support is key. If a top deck in the end-zone where available for really low donors, (like 24 year old guys) I would buy season tickets and drive from DSM every week in a heart beat.

And I am proud that we sell out 70,000, but the more people in the stands, the better.

Side-note: I am in full support of stands on the roof of the hospital. We would officially have the most unique stadium in America. haha
 
I thought it has been brought up about the water tower? I remeber people saying it was owned by the hospital and not the university so they couldn't paint it or something like that.
 
How many D1 schools are there in Nebraska?

How much of Nebraska's population is within a short drive of Lincoln?

That answers that argument.

Schneid said:
Nebraska is expanding their stadium to 90,000 by 2013. I know there is NOTHING to do in Nebraska on a Saturday afternoon. (or any day for that matter..) But the Iowa fan support is pretty awesome as well. And seeing as Nebraska has 1.3 million people fewer than Iowa, I'd say that the population argument isn't fully accurate. While population is big, fan support is key. If a top deck in the end-zone where available for really low donors, (like 24 year old guys) I would buy season tickets and drive from DSM every week in a heart beat.

And I am proud that we sell out 70,000, but the more people in the stands, the better.

Side-note: I am in full support of stands on the roof of the hospital. We would officially have the most unique stadium in America. haha
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WDMHAWKEYE said:
If Kinnick would get renovated again what would they do???

My guess - make the north side look like the south side. They might not have enough room to do this. What do you guys think???
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The north endzone is fairly new. Anyone have the date of construction? I am thinking sometime in the 1980s..which is new compared to stadium standards.

I just checked the North endzone was built in 1983. I was in HS at the time and clearly remember it being considered "state of the art" facilities. All said the North endzone was the nicest part of the stadium just a few short years ago. NO WAY does that get torn down. By stadium construction standards its still considered "new". Its really too bad that back in 1983 the University didn't replace the south endzone and then have the North endzone be the new locker facilites. There could have been a tunnel leading from the football complex to the lockerrooms and the road could have been turned into a Giant Plaze. All said things are pretty nice the way they are too.
 
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UP6936 said:
I think the University is very happy with a 70,000 and change capacity. I think that they believe that Iowa just doesn't have a big enough population and alumni base to, year in and year out, sell out a larger stadium. Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State have some of the largest alumni bases in the country, as well as a large population base, to draw from, so yes, 100,000+ works for them.

Sell outs are very important to athletics departments. Besides non-sell outs looking really crappy on TV, and being bad for recruiting, why spend all of that money building capacity when there is no guarantee it will get used and return the investment?

On the surface, it seems like common sense that bigger is always better, and as a matter of selfish pride we'd all love to match up numerically with UM, OSU and PSU, but we are who we are, a low population, rural state. Des Moines would be a relatively small town in Ohio. As small as we are, we need to be VERY PROUD that we almost always actually do sell out 70,000+.

When/if they ever renovate Kinnick again, unless the population of Iowa tops 5 million by then (by 2060, who knows!), there is next to no chance that they will increase the capacity.
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Seems to me I have read on here about fans trying to get multiple season tickets, like 4, only to be disappointed by getting only 2 season tickets. Logically it would seem to me that we need more seating. I'm all for enclosing the stadium on the south end with seating.
 
Hawkeye101 said:
This is a funny thread. They aren't going to fill in the corners. Why people keep asking about that, or even talking about that is beyond me. If you know anything about it, it's simply not possible.

There are new construction requirements in terms of the steepness allowed (since the original east and west sides were constructed) and under the new construction guidelines, there is/was no way to bowl in the south end zone and make it match up to the existing east/west sides, thus, it was built the way it exists today.

Filling in those corners simply isn't going to happen.

As far as another press box with luxury seats on the east side, that isn't going to happen either as there is a roadway directly behind the east side and it's the access to the hospital. It might all be fun to think about, but none of it is going to happen.
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If the University wanted to get it done, they would find a way. Whatever would need to be done would get done and since that part of the stadium, structurally is not connected to the rest of the stadium, it would be quite easy to expand upwards or further back. build a tunnel for traffic, or move the road back.

saying something is not structurally possible is an oxymoron, all it takes is some genius architect.
 
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