Programs and businesses. Unfortunately he has a golden parachute and unofficial tenure.
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Programs and businesses. Unfortunately he has a golden parachute and unofficial tenure.
Joshbrown
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I'll tell ya a little story about the money/contract. People say they don't care about it and it shouldn't be mentioned. I'll prove to you that everyone cares about the money/contract.
Let's pretend Kirk is making 2 million $$$ and it's January 2016. The same people who say they don't even think about the money WOULD BE SCREAMING IN A DOZEN different threads that the contract is a joke and needs to be thrown out in favor of a new one. "Josh, you idiot! Coaches deserve to be paid what they're worth!"
Yep, totally agree. Coaches should be paid what they're worth. And ours isn't.
The point? People hate hearing about an "unfair" contract when it supports a view-point they disagree with. And they luv talking about how unfair the contract is when it means tithing additional millions to their God.
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HawkGold
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Dean, maybe you missed this? http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/the-most-arrested-college-football-teams-in-america-081815
Gotta luv the comment about the ISU Iowa rivalry and about Urban Meyer...
See no mention of MSU until coming in at $49 ranked nationally. We are better than they are, ...but ISU beats us. Two more votes ummm arrests and we'd be #6
Most Arrested Teams in College Football
1. Washington State 31
Holy hell, this is what happens when you're a team that gets no attention and you're located in the middle of nowhere. Is Washington State a football team or a criminal syndicate?
2. Florida 24
Interestingly, if you combine Florida and Ohio State's arrests, Urban Meyer would be number one on this list.
3. Georgia 22
Totally where I would expect to see Georgia, the Bulldogs can't even get the most arrests in the SEC, they Georgia'd it.
3. Texas A&M 22
Fun fact, the only place that carries the Longhorn Network in College Station? Jail.
5. Oklahoma 21
Gotta give it to Bob Stoops, he finished behind three SEC teams even on this list.
6. Iowa State 20
Don't judge. If you lived in Ames, Iowa you'd get arrested too. Jail is actually the most fun attraction within 100 miles.
6. Missouri 20
Lots of people questioned whether Mizzou belonged in the SEC. Leave aside the back-to-back SEC east titles, this arrest record is prima facie evidence that they're in the right conference.
6. Ole Miss 20
Hugh Freeze is going to take these boys straight to church. (Where they will then abscond with the offering plates).
6. West Virginia 20
I'm convinced Morgantown, West Virginia is like Deadwood. Every morning they feed the dead bodies to the hogs.
10. Florida State 19
Imagine what FSU's arrest rate would be if Tallahassee police actually arrested football players.
10. Tennessee 19
The Vols are back, baby. (This also means six of the top ten most arrested teams in the country are from the SEC).
12. Alabama 18
In 2011 I met a sheriff at the Alabama-LSU game in Tuscaloosa. He had a national championship ring that Saban gave him. No joke.
12. Iowa 18
Iowa and Iowa State represents the most felonious rivalry in college football.* *Between two teams that never win anything.
12. Kentucky 18
You'd think Kentucky would be better at football with this arrest rate.
15. LSU 16
LSU's arrest rate is top 15 in the country, yet just the 9th best in the SEC. That's so Les.
15. Marshall 16
The Thundering Herb break up the big five conference football run with some non-major five arrest respect.
15. Oregon State 16
Again, a middle of nowhere Pac 12 school with a huge arrest rate.
15. Pittsburgh 16
Pitt beating out Florida State for the ACC's highest arrest rate would have been a major upset. So of course Pitt kept it close and then choked.
19. Arkansas 14
Fun fact: 12 of these are actually Houston Nutt arrested trying to sneak into Old Country Buffet.
19. Michigan 14
This is all Rich Rod's fault.
19. Oklahoma State 14
This number would have been much higher, but T. Boone Pickens bought the Stillwater police department in 2012.
19. Purdue 14
Even Purdue's arrested football players are bad.
23. Auburn 13
Auburn is ranked 23rd in the nation for arrests, but just 11th in the SEC.
23. Colorado 13
Confession: Every now and then I forget Colorado actually has a football team.
26. Nebraska 12
You know the program is in stiff decline when Nebraska can't even make the top 25 of arrests any more. Lawrence Phillips used to do that by himself.
26. Ohio State 12
Urban Meyer will have them top five in arrests in no time.
28. East Carolina 11
This is the strongest case ECU has made for inclusion in the SEC.
28. Mississippi State 11
Odds someone from State emails asking why the Bulldogs are rated so low here? 100%.
28. Oregon 11
See what happens when you decriminalize weed? No one gets arrested any more.
28. Penn State 11
(Insert Jerry Sandusky was framed comment from Nittany Lion truthers.)
28. TCU 11
The most arrests for a private school. Well done, Gary Patterson.
33. Syracuse 10
This number would be much higher, but in 2010 Syracuse police implemented a new policy: you can't be arrested when there's a foot of snow on the ground.
33. Texas 10
I kind of want to see Urban Meyer get named the head coach of Texas just to see what he could do with this number.
33. Central Michigan 10
33. Middle Tennessee 10
33. Western Kentucky 10
39. Arizona State 9
Arizona State is the only school on this list where the football team actually has a lower arrest rate than the student body.
39. Cincinnati 9
39. Illinois 9
39. South Carolina 9
No joke here, Steve Spurrier's guys never seem to get arrested compared to the rest of the SEC. They have the 13th most arrests in the conference, only Vanderbilt has fewer.
43. Arizona 8
43. Bowling Green 8
43. Colorado State 8
43. Georgia Southern 8
49. Baylor, Indiana, Louisville, Miami, Michigan State, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina, Northern Illinois 7
deanvogs
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TL;DR
HawkPrdatr40
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[QUOTE="JonDMiller, post: 1542068, member: 2"
2. I am of the opinion it is hard to win at Iowa. I am of the opinion that Kirk is worth what he earns. I am of the opinion that adding additional buyout language to the extension wasn't the best thing to do, but it is what it is, and nothing can change it, and I am not going to whine and moan about it the next 10 years. I'd like to see Iowa get to the point where it can sustain higher levels of success for longer periods of time, three years out of five...any more than is unrealistic in my opinion. I think folks tend to think that Iowa should be immune or above such lulls...which I reject, as Michigan, Tennessee, Florida, UCLA, Penn State, etc, ie traditional blue blood powers, have not been beyond such lulls the past decade..[/QUOTE]
Strongly Disagree! That KF is Worth what he earns.. you being serious?? I have nothing but respect for KF but he is and most College Coaches are GROSSLY OVERPAID..
2. I am of the opinion it is hard to win at Iowa. I am of the opinion that Kirk is worth what he earns. I am of the opinion that adding additional buyout language to the extension wasn't the best thing to do, but it is what it is, and nothing can change it, and I am not going to whine and moan about it the next 10 years. I'd like to see Iowa get to the point where it can sustain higher levels of success for longer periods of time, three years out of five...any more than is unrealistic in my opinion. I think folks tend to think that Iowa should be immune or above such lulls...which I reject, as Michigan, Tennessee, Florida, UCLA, Penn State, etc, ie traditional blue blood powers, have not been beyond such lulls the past decade..[/QUOTE]
Strongly Disagree! That KF is Worth what he earns.. you being serious?? I have nothing but respect for KF but he is and most College Coaches are GROSSLY OVERPAID..
Kirk Ferentz sees recruiting as a necessary evil and has always been behind the times. His reaction to kids taking visits is because he is tired of losing kids to other programs. The reason for this is he hates recruiting. The only time he looks good as a recruiter is when kids kind of fall into his lap. The best programs in college football LIVE for recruiting. They DON'T EVER STOP recruiting. They recruit in their sleep, literally, and they can't get enough of it. They hire entire staff of people that LOVE IT so they can recruit 25 hours a day, 8 days a week, and 375 days a year.
If Iowa had a coach that was as obsessed with recruiting the way Jim Harbaugh, Urban Meyer, Dabo Sweeney, Nick Saban, and guys like that are... you would be shocked how good your recruiting classes would be. And it wouldn't matter who was taking visits where.
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If Iowa had a coach that was as obsessed with recruiting the way Jim Harbaugh, Urban Meyer, Dabo Sweeney, Nick Saban, and guys like that are... you would be shocked how good your recruiting classes would be. And it wouldn't matter who was taking visits where.
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HawkGold
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Let me help you out. Rankings by Team Arrests.
6. ISU with 20
12. Iowa with 18
49. Michigan State with 7
Quote from author: Iowa and Iowa State represents the most felonious rivalry in college football.* *Between two teams that never win anything.
You said something like: Dude has had more player in and out of jail and playing them the next week. He is a scum sucker this was for sure.
My comment: Not sure about playing the next week, but he doesn't have as many in and out of jail apparently.
Moped violations?
HawkU
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deanvogs
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TL;DR
deanvogs
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2stupid;didread
Joshbrown
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HawkGold
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deanvogs
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Hmmmm, are you trying to lie to me? 18 arrests for Iowa in 2015, this is either a bogus article or you are flat out lying to me. Name the 18 arrests Iowa has in 2015.
lightning1
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He has 11 wins in 5 of the past 6 seasons. It will be 5 of the last 7 seasons after this one, obviously. But KF has never put a string like that together. He's only managed 5 seasons of 10 or more wins in the last 18! I'd say Dantonio is going to end up with a much better coaching record.
HawkGold
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My typing hands fail me. Written in 2015 it was the previous 5 years.
http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/the-most-arrested-college-football-teams-in-america-081815
Regardless of the functionality between my brain and fingers, Iowa is a top 12 team. ISU is 6. MSU is out of the top 25.
deanvogs
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And if you add 1 more year onto that MSU had 9 arrests in 1 incident in '09. I think that was the year that MSU also played a kid in Kinnick that literally just got out of jail a few days before.
