I am done being pissed at BF/Petras. They are not the problem

rschneider said:
Guys, the only reason Kirk has had any success at Iowa is because of Norm Parker and Phil Parker. That's it... A couple of outlier years on offense doesn't prove Kirk is a good head coach.
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Damn, when you really think about it...............................! Good take.
 
NorthKCHawk said:
Not that this would happen, but when they hired Brian, didn't they have to set it up so he reports to Barta and not KF? Meaning, Barta could fire him? Again, never gonna happen, but maybe Barta grows a spine.
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That would be career suicide for Farta.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
But, you're coming off a 10 win season and representing the West in the BIG C-ship game. If Kirk's eyes, he's thinking we can fix the little things to improve or get over the top. This, even though the offense was bad and the defense bailed them out from having a 7-5 regular season.
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We were discussing at the end of last year that by any measurement of success the OL, Offense, and QB were terrible. If Kirk really thought it was going to just be a couple of tweaks they wouldn't spent so much time trying to convince us things would be better this year. One just has to wonder what staff meetings look like in Fort Kinnick. Do the good coaches at Iowa just look at their tablets or doodle when Brian is speaking. How much criticism can Kirk provide to the other units when he gives Brian a pass. Maybe Kirk doesn't critique anyone, I don't know.
 
I feel like we are close to seeing Kirk do the hokey-pokey with the players after a meaningless win this season. Then you know the end is near.
 
MelroseHawkins said:
Damn, when you really think about it...............................! Good take
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Suggesting that 22+ years of success are all because of 2 very good DCs and nothing else is silly. KF sets the tone and establishes the manner of play. Stingy defense, great special teams, and a conservative offense. Under that philosophy, the DC has advantages over the OC. Iowa has been fortunate to have had two amazing DCs, but divorcing Iowa's success from the work of its head coach is a bridge too far.
 
NorthKCHawk said:
Suggesting that 22+ years of success are all because of 2 very good DCs and nothing else is silly. KF sets the tone and establishes the manner of play. Stingy defense, great special teams, and a conservative offense. Under that philosophy, the DC has advantages over the OC. Iowa has been fortunate to have had two amazing DCs, but divorcing Iowa's success from the work of its head coach is a bridge too far.
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22 years of average. For every good year there are two average years and one down year to coincide.
 
NorthKCHawk said:
Suggesting that 22+ years of success are all because of 2 very good DCs and nothing else is silly. KF sets the tone and establishes the manner of play. Stingy defense, great special teams, and a conservative offense. Under that philosophy, the DC has advantages over the OC. Iowa has been fortunate to have had two amazing DCs, but divorcing Iowa's success from the work of its head coach is a bridge too far.
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I agree. I think KF has done a great job in his tenure here and I'm not one to want him fired. But what I just don't get is his complete denial at the huge deficiencies in his offensive philosophy and BF's inability to make the offense even remotely adequate.
 
Hawkboys said:
I agree. I think KF has done a great job in his tenure here and I'm not one to want him fired. But what I just don't get is his complete denial at the huge deficiencies in his offensive philosophy and BF's inability to make the offense even remotely adequate.
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The first step in addressing a problem is admitting there is a problem.
 
racerhawk said:
Curious about your definition of "average." 9 wins? 10 wins?
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Kirk is 8-4 at Iowa. Two yearly cupcakes. Sometimes three.

Its been fun, ups and downs, quality guys.

One thing though that Kirk did not build which I'm sure would have helped in his success at Iowa, is a coaching tree.
 
I think i have finally figured out KF’s basic philosophy. It’s modeled after MLB. In what other sport can you have 8 suck ass possessions and end up winning with one good “possession”?

and, its about the same level of excitement to watch!
 
SCHawkeye2 said:
OL vs Nevada was pretty bad.
The Nevada d-line was winning the LOS.
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Our Oline can't even get off the snap in any kind of synchronized way. It looks like we false start almost half the time and get away with it. It's not good at all. Is that more on the new center? Feels like it has to do with that but it's herky jerky looking and they need to get that figured out.
 
Our new center is green as grass. Actually, our whole O line is younger than I thought. Age matters as much as experience. Teams are grabbing transfers who are 22-24 years old. Grown men. ESPN-U has been reporting on this.
 
OL vs. Nevada

* season high sacks (3)
* season high tackles for loss (6)

Take away Johnson’s 95 yards in TD runs and we averaged 2.3 per carry.
 
NorthKCHawk said:
Suggesting that 22+ years of success are all because of 2 very good DCs and nothing else is silly. KF sets the tone and establishes the manner of play. Stingy defense, great special teams, and a conservative offense. Under that philosophy, the DC has advantages over the OC. Iowa has been fortunate to have had two amazing DCs, but divorcing Iowa's success from the work of its head coach is a bridge too far.
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By no means am I saying KF is without blame, but but I agree 100%. Regardless of how much respect I have for the Parkers and the lack of respect I have for one current OC, I don't think it's fair to place all the offensive ineptitude on him and then give him zero credit for his DCs at the same time. Just my opinion but if KF is ultimately responsible for those areas in which the team struggles (offense and scheme) then I think he deserves credit for the areas where the team has success as well (Defense and special teams) as he runs the entire program and we know that based on his track record and resistance to change that if he things are done the way he wants them done.
 
HuckFinn said:
How do I get them taken away?
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I usually think it is silly when people make the, "Take away all the good plays and the offense looked like garbage!" argument. But in this case, I think it is illustrative. Excepting a couple plays with a good push, our OL had dozens of attempts to move a poor DL off the LOS and mostly failed. If it had been mostly 4-5 yard carries, complemented by a couple explosive runs, I would feel pretty good about things. But that is not what we saw.
 
CP87 said:
I usually think it is silly when people make the, "Take away all the good plays and the offense looked like garbage!" argument. But in this case, I think it is illustrative. Excepting a couple plays with a good push, our OL had dozens of attempts to move a poor DL off the LOS and mostly failed. If it had been mostly 4-5 yard carries, complemented by a couple explosive runs, I would feel pretty good about things. But that is not what we saw.
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I wanted to see some long sustained drives to show the offense is capable. I can kind of see what they mean. Johnson had TD's of 55 yds and I think 45. Against a team like Nevada, the offense and line should have been able to impose their will and have long drives. The time of possession stat should really be skewed towards a team like Iowa in these kinds of games the way Iowa plays.
 
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