docholihawk
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We need to erase the stain of the clowns from our schedule because they are a stain and their cyfans at least are low level human beings with an average IQ of about 8.
Howe: 9 B1G Games, ISU Paint Iowa in Corner for Non-Con Contests
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RobHowe
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I won't argue that. They and NDSU have been better than some of the crappy MAC and Sun Belt teams we've played, though.
hawkdrummer1
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all the more reason not to schedule them...when they're FCS. I called the NDSU upset a year ago...an embarrassment waiting to happen.
deanvogs
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I think you are overlooking the fact that ISU can't bring in anyone that is a for sure win. Secondly I think you are way underestimating the amount of business that that Iowa game brings in. There are probably another 10-20K people out in the parking lots tailgating watching the games there, or going to the Ames bars to watch after tailgating. That isn't happening vs San Jose St.
I think ultimately this is why Iowa won't drop the game either. We can say all we want that we want some "sexy" teams to play in IC, but the fact is we aren't going to bring in ND, or USC, or Bama. The sexiest we might bring in is Arkansas, a K-State, maybe a Colorado, or something like that. This won't bring out the extra people tailgating and spending money. The cities love this game, the state loves this game, I don't see it going anywhere.
eyekwah
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Sometimes you got to look to the past to make an informed thought. I went back to 58 and 68 to give you an idea of life without ISU on the schedule. Any of the two schedules are more appealing that the schedule this fall or the next two falls. I'll raise a question, why hasn't Missouri or Nebraska put ISU back on their schedules? They are after all old college rivals. For that matter why hasn't Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Purdue or Northwestern scheduled ISU? It isn't because they already play Iowa. Here are some recent non-conf games: NW vs Stanford, Wisconsin vs LSU, Nebraska vs Oregon, Minnesota vs Oregon State, Purdue vs Cincinnati, Illinois vs North Carolina.
Below is the schedule from 1968
Oregon State*
TCU*
Notre Dame*
Indiana
Wisconsin
Purdue
Minnesota
Northwestern
Ohio State
Illinois
Below is the schedule from 1958.
Texas Christian
Air Force
Indiana
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Michigan
Minnesota
Ohio State
Notre Dame
Below is the schedule from 1968
Oregon State*
TCU*
Notre Dame*
Indiana
Wisconsin
Purdue
Minnesota
Northwestern
Ohio State
Illinois
Below is the schedule from 1958.
Texas Christian
Air Force
Indiana
Wisconsin
Northwestern
Michigan
Minnesota
Ohio State
Notre Dame
Amen. I'd go so far to say NDSU was better than a whole lot of D1 teams. However that doesn't matter to the 'perception' The talking heads who have so much power at influencing opinions when it comes to the subjectivity don't look at it that way. They pretty much lump losing to NDSU the same as Michigan losing to App St or any other school from that level. It's so frustrating how they generalize so much. It takes quite awhile to flip a perception once you've been pigeon holed by them.
RobHowe
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As I said, I agree we should not play FCS schools. That said, looking it purely from a fan perspective, I be more interested in watching us play UNI or NDSU than I would Middle Tennessee State or North Texas.
You knew they were gonna win in the last seconds??!?!?!??!? Get to Vegas MAN!
Go to the game in Ames, their fans are no different than ours. Fun time. Yeah if you look at message boards those are the blow hards.
Stanzi
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Iowa needs to play a power conference opponent that has a chance of making a bowl game. ISU's realistic ceiling in a good year is 4 or 5 wins. If they really get lucky they might hit 6 wins and make a no name bowl game. We're better off playing a Pitt or UNC or UCLA type that is comparable to us.
I'd also like to see Iowa stop playing teams like Middle Tennessee State, however. We don't need to play world beaters, but don't play total scrubs.
I'd also like to see Iowa stop playing teams like Middle Tennessee State, however. We don't need to play world beaters, but don't play total scrubs.
Joshbrown
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You don't have to go back to before Iowa State to find a respectable non-con. We had plenty of good OOC schedules during the Fry years. Of course he was only making 250,000 per year so we didn't have to downgrade the schedule for money money money money money money money reasons.
HawkGold
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Iowa is holding back Iowa's NC game resume. Not Iowa State. In 02, ISU had one heck of a season going in the first half of the season. KF conservatism and fumbles hurt. If BB had more snaps in 2001....
In 2015, they were 1 series away from the playoffs.
You can't have stupid losses. Iowa gets their fair share. My opinion anyway.
There's no arguing the just win every game you should argument... I think we kinda forget that side of things. If Iowa would stop having the bad losses things would take care of themselves more. It's so head scratching to go from losing to NDSU (as good as they are) to beating Michigan in the same season...
Execution, anticipation, luck and emotion.
I do not think the series is going anywhere, but am I going to get excited about having a k-state or colorado on our schedule... absolutely not. We are better off hoping Campbell can make them somewhat relevant because the teams we will get to come in and play will not be that great. Plus we need to prove that having this super weak non con even matters... It hasn't held us out of to many playoffs yet, and why put a tougher school on the schedule and lose the game like Penn State did and miss the playoff because you didn't schedule another powder puff
hawkdrummer1
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Ha, nice try. You know exactly what I meant. It was the type of game KFz has lost before...he's done it with ISU multiple times, let's face it, we dodged a L against UNI in 2009... a team like NDSU (the giant killer) had Kirk-choke written all over it. These teams shouldn't have been IN POSITION to win it at the end...but they are far too often. Wasn't too hard to see it coming though and I certainly wasn't the only one.
And as a matter of fact, I did win a bet on it...ironically with a guy who's kid goes to NDSU.
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deanvogs
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You guys gotta quit dreaming of the Fry Era. It is over and done with, college football isn't like that anymore. That game isn't played the same, and the game isn't scheduled that way any more either. 95% of college football schedules 2 patsies at least (the SEC they schedule 3 patsies with the 8 game conference schedule).
As long as we have ISU on the schedule, there isn't going to be another P5 school scheduled, period. It would be a detriment to the program to do so, and that is why 95% of schools don't do that.
As long as we have ISU on the schedule, there isn't going to be another P5 school scheduled, period. It would be a detriment to the program to do so, and that is why 95% of schools don't do that.
sloewdog34
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Beating ISU is not getting us the in-state recruits. In fact I'd argue the opposite, that beating a UCLA, Colorado, Arkansas instead of ISU might.
Fact is, if we are going to lose a non-con game...it should be to someone respected.
Fact is, if we are going to lose a non-con game...it should be to someone respected.
hawkdrummer1
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Bingo. If beating ISU impresses a recruit...well, nuff said. I hope we're recruiting guys with bigger goals.
