Unless you are George F-ing Kittle!
How Many Players Go Pro?
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Unless you are George F-ing Kittle!
LurkinGopher
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TJH, Fant, Hooker gonzo.
A Nelson and Jackson won't grade out quite high enough.
Stanley! That's funny!
Yup.
I still don't think it's a good idea for two guys from the same school and the same position to declare in the same year.
I posted some stuff in another thread about that and the odds of both going in the first two rounds are not great. Especially when you add in the other p5 all conference TE's.
I like this idea; listen, not contract signed, no money exchanged, still and amateur so to speak, let the student athlete sign a pending type contract with an agent based on getting drafted in rounds whatever.
If it doesnt work out then no agent and play again in college
smitharooney
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What round is our punter going in?
Does anyone know a go oi d argument for not allowing this? I can't think of a single reason this isn't allowed.
lightning1
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It might not have anything to do with advice. Some guys don't like/weren't meant for college. Others might want to try the NFL, knowing full well that they can always go back and get their degrees at any time.
I swear some people think that once you forego your eligibility, you can never return to finish your degree. They can. A lot of them do.
lightning1
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It's crazy how no college will let these guys return to get their degrees as..you know, regular students. There should be laws that allow them to attend college as regular students. Don't ya think?
I could see that. Basically it's like them looking around for a job. They may not leave their current job and take it, but they are looking.
But
Do you honestly think the rich who own the teams are going to allow that? Because that would mean by showing interest, just like being recruited, your stock would go up the more teams that showed interest. Basically the rich would be allowing the price to be inflated on the deals they are thinking about making.
Tough subject. I think the reason it is how it is, is no different than the policy we have about being committed. It's a if you say you are going to do it, then do it type of deal. The world needs more of that anyway. It's called honor.
Honer your commitment to school and when you decide that you are good enough to go pro, you back it up and do it.
This draft is big time defensive heavy. The only reason Stanley is rated as high as some have him is due to the lack of any other good NFL Qb prospects. It's a weak offensive class period. Which could enhance Jacksons value. He's a huge body with potential to work with.
On the flip side it seems like 10 or more Dlineman may get picked in the 1st round alone. Nelson may very well want to come back and be a part of next yrs class that I wouldn't think would be as DL heavy at the top.
I'm not as up on DBs but safeties like Hooker don't get drafted too high unless your like Derwin James or guys like that. I'm not sure how he'd test or grade out in comparison. But I don't see him being a 3rd rounder or higher. Making it tough to leave early...
On the flip side it seems like 10 or more Dlineman may get picked in the 1st round alone. Nelson may very well want to come back and be a part of next yrs class that I wouldn't think would be as DL heavy at the top.
I'm not as up on DBs but safeties like Hooker don't get drafted too high unless your like Derwin James or guys like that. I'm not sure how he'd test or grade out in comparison. But I don't see him being a 3rd rounder or higher. Making it tough to leave early...
I agree.
It's all ebb and flow.
You can never go back and finish your college sports experience, though. You also miss out on finishing up your college experience with all of the friends/teammates you came in with. College is about a lot more than a piece of paper.
The experience side means a lot to some. Not as much to others.
lightning1
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True. And I'm sure that is one of the things each player considers when they are making the decision.
Northside Hawk
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News from this afternoon that Michigan's Karan Higdon is not playing in the Peach Bowl.
This is exactly what I feared was going to start happening. Michigan has 3 major players sitting out a major bowl game now. I know Jake Butt is fresh in the memories of most of these guys, but this just seems to cheapen CFB to me.
Fryowa
Administrator
What kind of sense does it make to risk tens of millions of dollars for a meaningless exhibition game? And yes, it’s meaningless because it isn’t a playoff game, and doesn’t have any affect on conference championships or standings.
I know we don’t like it, but there’s just too much money at stake now for rookies.
These guys should risk their entire futures so a bunch of their college buddies have a chance to win the Peach Bowl before they go off to their jobs in med sales and real estate? F that, man.
I played college sports and my teammates were all great dudes, but no fucking way am I going to risk millions over a game that’s just for funsies, and I sure as hell wouldn’t have expected any of my teammates to either. In the 80s and 90s it was a different situation altogether because you didn’t have the astronomical money at stake.
Jake Butt went from likely having enough guaranteed money to never have to work a day in his life and also set his family up for life (even if he never played a game), to making comparative chump change in NFL terms and now he’ll have to get a real job like the rest of us because he’s blown his knees out and will never see the field again. Had he not hurt himself in college he’d have had huge guaranteed cash and his later ACL tears wouldn’t have stopped him from getting paid.
I'm not blaming them. I fully understand and respect their decisions.
I just think it's a shame that CFB and football in general has come to this.
Fryowa
Administrator
I think there are two reasons, only one of which is the fault of the NCAA.
1) Enormous guaranteed rookie contracts
2) Having over 40 bowl games and effectively no qualification criteria. It makes all bowls, even the non-CFP big ones, seem lame-o. If there were only the main six bowls and not everyone and their brother got to play in them I think it’s make players change their minds in some cases because only the theoretical top 12 teams would get to play.
I risk being financially ruined by playing in rec leagues. It's called enjoying life and not living in fear.
