No one would have a problem with Fran if he were winning this year because Iowa has made the post season tourney’s the last couple of years. The discussion is about how long Fran will be the head coach before he’s fired. Fran won’t be let go because of 1 bad (2017-18) season, there’s plenty to look forward to in the future. There has to be multi-years of losing and little hope for the future. That’s not the case right now with Hawkeye basketball. Go Hawks!
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No one would have a problem with Fran if he were winning this year because Iowa has made the post season tourney’s the last couple of years. The discussion is about how long Fran will be the head coach before he’s fired. Fran won’t be let go because of 1 bad (2017-18) season, there’s plenty to look forward to in the future. There has to be multi-years of losing and little hope for the future. That’s not the case right now with Hawkeye basketball. Go Hawks!
You're being nice with JV reference (unless you're talking about HS JV). This team also looked horrible last year until we play ISU. There's plenty of talent on the roster, they're not playing like it yet. The next 2 years look bright. Go Hawks!
hawkeyemark
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Just curious what makes that obvious? You could extend that out and say he has six years until Patrick graduates. I don't buy it and having two talented sons should have nothing to do with whether we retain a coach or not. If this goes south maybe Connor will decide to concentrate full time on baseball which he could just as easily do at another school although Iowa seems like a good program with Heller at the helm if his dad sticks it out here.
I don't see Fran lasting all the way through Patrick's college years and this may seem a good time to get out of dodge even though I don't see that happening unless forced out. Fran would probably do well finishing his career at another mid-major if he went that route but hard to say how this will play out.
smitharooney
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Where in my statement did I mention firing Fran? I’m stating you can’t rely on youth as an excuse for losing when the teams that are beating you are also young . The longer you stick around college basketball the less talented you are if you’re goal is to make it to the NBA
Penn State is young too and beat us. But the teams are pretty even. When two bad teams play, someone has to win. Your last sentence makes it sound like you think every player that doesn't leave early for the NBA sucks.
smitharooney
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That’s not my opinion that’s an NBA GM’s opinion . I don’t see a lot of upper classmen going thru the first round of the draft. It’s mostly one and dones or euro players. Shouldn’t Fran have that as one of his goals to prepare his kids for the next level? Good luck with that considering this dogshit roster and to the fans who want to bury their heads in the sand and try to come up with lame excuses to try and make themselves feel better about a team who is one of the worst clubs in the entire country
There are 2 schools in the country that have really good rosters full of underclassmen. Duke and Kentucky. There are a handful of other schools who have a couple really good young players. We have 4 guys that are juniors and seniors, and only one will be missed at all when they're gone.
Being young is a really good excuse for why we aren't good this year. It's a terrible excuse for Fran tho because he is the reason we have such a young roster.
Watching basketball tonight has helped cool me off a bit. Basketball is a sport where your season can change on a dime. Fran has done that 3 straight years now. Hopefully he can do it a 4th.
Minnesota went from one of the worst D1 teams in the nation to a top 25 team in one year. Nebraska just kicked their ass. It just goes to show how much things can change in one season, or one game.
Minnesota went from one of the worst D1 teams in the nation to a top 25 team in one year. Nebraska just kicked their ass. It just goes to show how much things can change in one season, or one game.
smitharooney
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The youth excuse is not a good excuse it’s a terrible excuse . We aren’t bad because we are young . We are bad because our roster is loaded with MAC level talent. It has nothing to do with youth.
MAC talent that went 12-6 last year in the conference. Iowa isn't playing together as a team this year. Fran has the talent, they need to play together. Your NBA theory doesn't apply to Iowa, since there aren't any players that are leaving for the NBA. May have couple players ready when they graduate, but they will need more experience.
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How can you possibly say we aren't bad because we are young, when we are so young? Now if you want to say this roster will never be really good, I could buy that. But this team could easily improve to be a 5 seed or so in two years, and that's without adding players.
I had to look up the game when you posted this comment. Not sure if my phone messed up or if its espn but the score is shown as nebby 39-68 minny. Nebby winning. ill try to attach the screen capture.
I don't think this team is very talented.
Weird. Nebraska won by 10 or so. Was up 17 late. They made everything they threw up. It was a game where the fans of the losing team wonder what was wrong, even tho it was obvious it was just Nebraska's night.
Ya don't say.
