How Do All The Ferentz Boot Lickers

KF could coach 50 years with 144 wins and people would still want to build a statue, because he has more wins than Fry. Neither KF or Fry are legends, folks.

Doesn't work. Tearing down Fry in order to tear down Ferentz--in addition to being bush league--is flat-out off the mark.

Fry not a legend? Let us know when you...

...integrate a southern league
...resurrect a program with 20-ish consecutive non-winning seasons
...spawn enough coaches to field an actual football team
...have a TV show created based on your life
 
Doesn't work. Tearing down Fry in order to tear down Ferentz--in addition to being bush league--is flat-out off the mark.

Fry not a legend? Let us know when you...

...integrate a southern league
...resurrect a program with 20-ish consecutive non-winning seasons
...spawn enough coaches to field an actual football team
...have a TV show created based on your life
I didn't say Fry wasn't a good coach. I said he wasn't a legend. Try being a little less dramatic, please.
 
You can call me whatever you want, i guess i would say that as a boot-licker, i have different expectations then you do. I don't see it as a bad season because we didn't win the college football playoff. I don't see it as a bad season because we didn't win the big ten and go to the big ten championship. My expectations are different, not lower, different then yours. They include other things for the program besides JUST wins and losses (though that is a big part of it every season its not the only).

You think that makes me part of the problem, i think guys that hop on here and can't enjoy a win, ever, are part of the problem. There are guys on this page who couldn't even enjoy the win vs Ohio state for goodness sakes. If you are one of the guys who thought immediately during or after the Ohio state win......."where's this been all season, see we should be doing this every game," complaining rather than enjoying, i think you're part of the problem. I guess we will agree to disagree. I'm not happy we didn't show up against Wisconsin or Purdue. Shouldn't happen with the guys that are on this team.

I did however, see during this season 3 of the best games from an enjoyment standpoint that I've experienced as a fan in my 40 years on this planet and I've been a hawk fan since the womb. Iowa state, Ohio state, and the Boston College games were three incredibly satisfying wins, got to be at the isu game live. The difference between you and the boot-lickers isn't the fact that we have lesser expectations, its that we can actually enjoy the season, even when some seasons we lose more than we want as a fan, and when things don't go as we wished, we boot-lickers don't go zero state, apocalypse now, say stuff like our coaches don't care about winning (Despite them dedicating their entire lives to this profession), and think nothing will ever get better. For all my faults as a boot-licker, at least i can enjoy a game.

Criticism is legit, as fans we can criticize and should criticize certain aspects of where we see our team headed directionally, and the results on the field. I think criticizing the offensive woes of the last couple years was legit, and it worked, the team made changes in the off season. But see as a boot-licker i was expecting the offense to have ups and downs with a new system under a new coordinator, figured we'd have games where we looked good, and ones where we didn't. Didn't think we'd have games where we fell off the planet, but, we did. I'm sorry that I was able to enjoy the season none the less, and i will try and be less of a problem next year.
 
Winning 4 cupcake non con games, and having a losing record of 4-5 in conference play in a very weak division is hardly what I would call a very good season. Several teams hung a bunch of points on Nebraska, the OSU game was simply a fluke, but yes we did gut one out against ISU. Gonna miss Jewell, Wadley, and the other seniors for sure, as they were great Hawkeyes. Feel bad for Akrum as we have a staff that cannot figure out how to use talented players. We won't have a threat like him for some time on offense.

Iowa played the 3rd toughest schedule in the country according to Sagarin and Massey. .

We have two running backs right now who will be very, very good next year if they stay healthy.
 
You can call me whatever you want, i guess i would say that as a boot-licker, i have different expectations then you do. I don't see it as a bad season because we didn't win the college football playoff. I don't see it as a bad season because we didn't win the big ten and go to the big ten championship. My expectations are different, not lower, different then yours. They include other things for the program besides JUST wins and losses (though that is a big part of it every season its not the only).

You think that makes me part of the problem, i think guys that hop on here and can't enjoy a win, ever, are part of the problem. There are guys on this page who couldn't even enjoy the win vs Ohio state for goodness sakes. If you are one of the guys who thought immediately during or after the Ohio state win......."where's this been all season, see we should be doing this every game," complaining rather than enjoying, i think you're part of the problem. I guess we will agree to disagree. I'm not happy we didn't show up against Wisconsin or Purdue. Shouldn't happen with the guys that are on this team.

I did however, see during this season 3 of the best games from an enjoyment standpoint that I've experienced as a fan in my 40 years on this planet and I've been a hawk fan since the womb. Iowa state, Ohio state, and the Boston College games were three incredibly satisfying wins, got to be at the isu game live. The difference between you and the boot-lickers isn't the fact that we have lesser expectations, its that we can actually enjoy the season, even when some seasons we lose more than we want as a fan, and when things don't go as we wished, we boot-lickers don't go zero state, apocalypse now, say stuff like our coaches don't care about winning (Despite them dedicating their entire lives to this profession), and think nothing will ever get better. For all my faults as a boot-licker, at least i can enjoy a game.

Criticism is legit, as fans we can criticize and should criticize certain aspects of where we see our team headed directionally, and the results on the field. I think criticizing the offensive woes of the last couple years was legit, and it worked, the team made changes in the off season. But see as a boot-licker i was expecting the offense to have ups and downs with a new system under a new coordinator, figured we'd have games where we looked good, and ones where we didn't. Didn't think we'd have games where we fell off the planet, but, we did. I'm sorry that I was able to enjoy the season none the less, and i will try and be less of a problem next year.

You have to remember that this is a free board. A very high percentage of the negative posters are Iowa State fans, or Nebraska fans, or very casual fans, masquerading as "Iowa fans." Not all of them, but a bunch of them. They don't go to the games; they don't invest in the program; they just hang out. Mack Brown, a very successful coach in his own right, stated during the telecast that Ferentz is one of the best coaches in the country. I believe him and agree with him. Should a fan base be satisfied with 8 wins? Of course not. But is anyone paying attention to how the Big Ten is playing in bowl games? It is 5-0 right now. It could finish 8-0. Iowa lost to some pretty darn good teams.this year. Some 8 win seasons are better than others.
 
It won't in regards to ISU. No matter how good they may get, they are still ISU.

Well I think the ISU coach has done a nice job with what he has had to work with. It's a bit rich for us to puff out our chest and boast about a program that averages 7-5 regular season records. Let's compare Iowa's program and successes to Ohio State, Alabama, or Oklahoma"s programs for the last ten years.. Now who is laughing and mocking us?

My point here is that perspective is a funny thing isn't it?

If the ISU coach maintains the upward trajectory he is on, you may soon be eating your words. I hope he does as it would make the rivalry much more meaningful and more fun to watch. That last game was pretty entertaining..

Also mocking a team that has had pennies on the dollar for recruiting and facilities that Iowa has had and then we had to win it in overtime??? That's a little bit embarrassing if Iowa State is such a trash program.

I would love to see both Iowa and ISU become perennial top ten teams in both men's football and men's basketball. I also would love to win the lottery. Winning the lottery is more likely to happen.
 
You have to remember that this is a free board. A very high percentage of the negative posters are Iowa State fans, or Nebraska fans, or very casual fans, masquerading as "Iowa fans." Not all of them, but a bunch of them. They don't go to the games; they don't invest in the program; they just hang out. Mack Brown, a very successful coach in his own right, stated during the telecast that Ferentz is one of the best coaches in the country. I believe him and agree with him. Should a fan base be satisfied with 8 wins? Of course not. But is anyone paying attention to how the Big Ten is playing in bowl games? It is 5-0 right now. It could finish 8-0. Iowa lost to some pretty darn good teams.this year. Some 8 win seasons are better than others.

So wrong on this in re to ISU fans. Do I want KF fired at this point. No. Do I think it's a waste of time to keep him, probably. No one on has been a bigger fan of Iowa over the years. At the time I thought he was not a great hire. I haven't changed my mind much, but have enjoyed the successes.

KF lovers want to believe the detractors are all ISU fans. I didn't go to ISU which had my major because it was treason.

Wisky since the 2009 season has averaged just under 3....3.........3 wins more per year than has Iowa. Not asking to equal, but if the distance were halved, that would be about right.
 

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