Hlas: Please, people, stop using "B1G".

Take a bit of caution with your blanket statements about "the South", pls. I can state conclusively that none of this applies in North Carolina, and even Atlanta metro. NC is definitely ACC/SEC country, but B1G is very well represented (alums/transplants) and is not considered "garbage" in this region.
I get that the FL panhandle is provincial and rather uncivilized, though. I'm glad you enjoy it, Mark; I wouldn't live there if you paid me seven figures.

Vintage, I totally get that you have a different flavor in the more urban areas which would include North Carolina as well. Around Pensacola we just don't have that many Big Ten transplants. You find Big Ten fans among the military here but they come and go. People who visit the Florida Panhandle may not want to live here but sometimes leave with a different impression than what they came with. We have some of the most beautiful beaches in the world here and diversity beyond the "Redneck Riviera" that people sometimes refer to this area as. That stereotype gets old.
 
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We do have lousy schools and a visible redneck element but I have learned as a Midwesterner living here that people in the North have stereotypes that don't fit the reality of living in the South. You just have to live here to appreciate that and the over the top craziness of SEC college football fans.

Stereotypes? The things I listed are facts, not stereotypes. The South does have the highest illiteracy, highest obesity, highest smoking rates, and lowest life expectancy in the country. But, hey, their relatively low rated universities have put together the top football team in the country for five straight years, so who cares about the other stuff.
 


Stereotypes? The things I listed are facts, not stereotypes. The South does have the highest illiteracy, highest obesity, highest smoking rates, and lowest life expectancy in the country. But, hey, their relatively low rated universities have put together the top football team in the country for five straight years, so who cares about the other stuff.

Wow. Painting with a rather broad brush, aren't you sarge?
Some Southern colleges/universities that make our beloved U of Iowa look pretty stupid are Vanderbilt, Davidson, Duke, UNC, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, William & Mary...well, you get the point. I hope.
 




Wow. Painting with a rather broad brush, aren't you sarge?
Some Southern colleges/universities that make our beloved U of Iowa look pretty stupid are Vanderbilt, Davidson, Duke, UNC, Georgia Tech, Wake Forest, William & Mary...well, you get the point. I hope.

None of those teams are in the SEC.
 




None of those teams are in the SEC.


Vintage's point still stands and some bright people come out of SEC universities as well. For the record I grew up in Iowa and will always consider myself an Iowan at heart. My path in life led me to the Navy and I consider myself fortunate to have worked with people from all different walks of life and to have lived in very different parts of the country. I've always adapted to the enviornment I find myself in and from experience don't see things in such black and white terms.

On the topic at hand the fact that fanatical SEC fans think that college football revolves around the SEC doesn't make people here a bunch of hicks. It doesn't mean I don't hate the SEC either :)
 


None of those teams are in the SEC.

Vanderbilt isn't in the SEC? Huh. News to me.

Anyway, dopey, you were slagging on Southern schools and I gave you a small handful of Southern schools that are excellent academically...including Vandy, a member of the SEC.
You made an ignorant statement. Own it.
 


Woops, I did misspeak about Vandy. I bet a couple of the brilliant Vandy grads are aware of the existence of the BTN.
 




As I have pointed out before, my Alma Mater, the University of Florida, is universally rated higher than the University of Iowa, but even the most dedicated SEC fans can't defend the overall quality of the schools or the quality of life in the south in general.
 


just hink of the possibilities if it were...

nothing spells ratings like an east coast west coast rap battle. and with how impressive the b1g ten's marketing department has been as of late... cough legends/leaders/heroes cough... I think this might be right up their alley
word.
 






Ok, 1 won't use that anymore when 1 refer to th1s conference. That way 1 won't p1ss off th1s sportswr1ter. Wouldn't want to get h1m upset.
 


I've never used it. I think its pretty dumb, just like most of the recent marketing efforts regarding the B1G

+1. "B1G" just seems like something cute the BIG TEN created, which honestly doesn't make any sense. B1G? What is that supposed to mean? I honestly did not know what meant the first several times I saw people saying it. I'm sorry, but that's horrible marketing when you create something that people don't instantly recognize.

I refuse to say or write B1G other than for the sake of making this point. The Big Ten is the Big Ten in my book. Even if it now has 12 teams. But that didn't stop us from calling the league the Big Ten when it had 11 teams all these years..
 


As I have pointed out before, my Alma Mater, the University of Florida, is universally rated higher than the University of Iowa, but even the most dedicated SEC fans can't defend the overall quality of the schools or the quality of life in the south in general.

Why do you and I need to justify our quality of life living in the south compared to people living in any other part of the country? Problems and challenges exsist anywhere you live. We have poor public schools in the south and for my whole adult life I've appreciated the quality education I got growing up in small town Iowa. I also don't want to shovel snow, drive on ice nor experience sub-zero winters again and will likely not return to Iowa other than to visit. I loved living in San Diego during the Navy days and living in that awesome climate I crossed the line of never wanting to live in cold weather again. Lived near a trolley stop and got around pretty much anywhere I wanted to go without needing a car. At the same time housing costs a fortune in the San Diego area and I feel for people who have to commute to work on those freeways. Add to that my old stomping grounds of Chula Vista underwent a wave of break-ins and gang activity not seen around there before and I probably left just at the right time.

Paradise doesn't exsist anywhere folks.
 


Why do you and I need to justify our quality of life living in the south compared to people living in any other part of the country? Problems and challenges exsist anywhere you live. We have poor public schools in the south and for my whole adult life I've appreciated the quality education I got growing up in small town Iowa. I also don't want to shovel snow, drive on ice nor experience sub-zero winters again and will likely not return to Iowa other than to visit. I loved living in San Diego during the Navy days and living in that awesome climate I crossed the line of never wanting to live in cold weather again. Lived near a trolley stop and got around pretty much anywhere I wanted to go without needing a car. At the same time housing costs a fortune in the San Diego area and I feel for people who have to commute to work on those freeways. Add to that my old stomping grounds of Chula Vista underwent a wave of break-ins and gang activity not seen around there before and I probably left just at the right time.

Paradise doesn't exsist anywhere folks.

When I refer to "The South", I tend to refer to the rural areas of Georgia, Miss., Loserana, Alabama, Kentucky, and Tennessee. You know, the places with rampant obesitiy, racism, illiteracy, and Calvin ******* on Jeff Gordon truck stickers.

I have lived in 10 states and three countries in my life, and none of them better than Tampa, Florida. However, the sterotype that America sends all of its crazy people to the wang are absolutely true, and it is part of the fun of living down here.
 


When I refer to "The South", I tend to refer to the rural areas of Georgia, Miss., Loserana, Alabama, Kentucky, and Tennessee. You know, the places with rampant obesitiy, racism, illiteracy, and Calvin ******* on Jeff Gordon truck stickers.

I have lived in 10 states and three countries in my life, and none of them better than Tampa, Florida. However, the sterotype that America sends all of its crazy people to the wang are absolutely true, and it is part of the fun of living down here.

Thanks and I totally get the spirit of what you meant to write. Living in the Panhandle I just run into alot of stereotypes and mis-conceptions about things. It amuses me when people from the North come down here and go to the beach and freak out when they see a Confederate flag- OMG they have rednecks! Of course we have rednecks and it comes with the territory. Live here for awhile and get a feel for the area and your place in it and you start to see that represents just one piece of the picture.

I want to try and tie some of this in to the theme of this thread marketing. I think my comments about people in my area seeming oblivious to the BTN may surprise some people because they over-estimate the reach of what the Big Ten has tried to do. The exposure people get to the Big Ten here comes from ESPN and ABC and serious football people actually watch some of those games when they don't conflict with the SEC. Beyond that they don't have enough interest to check out the BTN and it makes no impact in a non-Big Ten area like this. The Legends and Leaders concept means absolutely nothing to people who don't follow the Big Ten like SEC East and SEC West means something to those of you in the Midwest. The Big Ten has tried to get too slick with all these marketing maneuvers.
 


B1G is flat stupid (and I don't mean stoopid)

Since PSU joined I always wrote it "Big Ten" or "BigTen"

Now they want to emphasize the numerical 10 ... fine, I've been writing it "Big 10" or "Big10"
 




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