deanvogs
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By all means, be passionate. Just don't turn around and troll winning the Orange Bowl, or going 12-0 like a pathetic Clown troll.
Hey Jon.....
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By all means, be passionate. Just don't turn around and troll winning the Orange Bowl, or going 12-0 like a pathetic Clown troll.
That sounds about right -- don't agree with someone so you kick them out. Only Yes-folks allowed around these parts eh?
What are you doing out in this neck of the woods outside of the wall by the way? Good to see you son!
JonDMiller
Publisher/Founder
Greg Davis was all about sight reads...and receivers running routes based on what they were seeing, and hoping the QB saw the same things, or vice versa...I remember KMM explaining this to me in 2012 media day, and I was very dubious. different route trees...different terminology.
That was five years ago.
Now, new OC, they change things...not uncommon....and Stanley's first year was under GD system...now, new system, new terminology, different route trees, diff philosophy...even for a true soph, the older system, if it were in place this year, there were still going to be learning experiences.
-------Write Gary a letter, don't buy tickets, etc.
Jon - I really like you, and enjoy your podcasts...I am really not a bad guy, and love to get people riled up and draw them offside, giving me a more manageable 1st and 5, Having said that, I have e-mailed BG several times in the past and HAVE NOT been caustic in any manner...very professional....he has not responded to any of them, So screw him!
Jon - I really like you, and enjoy your podcasts...I am really not a bad guy, and love to get people riled up and draw them offside, giving me a more manageable 1st and 5, Having said that, I have e-mailed BG several times in the past and HAVE NOT been caustic in any manner...very professional....he has not responded to any of them, So screw him!
HawkeyeWalker
Well-Known Member
Jon,
No doubt. But kudos to him, a lesser man would drop the hammer again with the quickness.
No doubt. But kudos to him, a lesser man would drop the hammer again with the quickness.
JonDMiller
Publisher/Founder
Well, that is good...you are doing the things you have in your control to try to have a say...even if it doesn't get a response.
DBAHawkFan
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I can handle losses to better teams. Under KF tho we have more losses when we're double digit favorites than anyone else in our conference and it's not even close.
And it's because we seem to have every damn game come down to the final possession. Why? Cause we have a baffling offensive scheme of play not to lose.
Let's see how rest of year plays out but so far after 5 games we rank 102nd in total offense. OCs change but our dismal statistics stay the same.
Hopefully our players and coaches can use the bye week after IL game to get on same page for the playbook.
Cause no other program has implemented a new system. Tho to be fair, most programs wouldn't hire a OC at the Power 5 level with zero play calling experience
And it's because we seem to have every damn game come down to the final possession. Why? Cause we have a baffling offensive scheme of play not to lose.
Let's see how rest of year plays out but so far after 5 games we rank 102nd in total offense. OCs change but our dismal statistics stay the same.
Hopefully our players and coaches can use the bye week after IL game to get on same page for the playbook.
Cause no other program has implemented a new system. Tho to be fair, most programs wouldn't hire a OC at the Power 5 level with zero play calling experience
NCHawker
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Jon when you do the film break down, notice (on outside zone runs) how the MSU defense committed across the LOS as soon as Stanley opened up in a certain direction They were not worried about play action or waggle - very simple reads, and they made the reads quickly. Fearlessly
And the OLine / play blocking scheme was not good enough to stop them.
Rinse repeat
Seems to me that IA should have had an antidote
skinnykilmer17
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Thank You! Winning Post!
And Jon be careful. You are sounding like Leistikow. You sure you want to go that far in?
A schedule can only be easy if you're better than all the teams on it. If we sucked that year, or if ISU played that same schedule, it wouldn't be considered easy. Alabama plays an easy schedule every year because they are way better than everyone they play.
If Hooker tips that pass last week and Stanley throws a touchdown instead of fumbling the ball, then we win on OT, people would change their perception of Iowa and our opponents. By next year, they would be belittling their accomplishments by saying the schedule is week.
deanvogs
Well-Known Member
Yep, something Clown fans and @Playmaker don't seem to understand. Now don't get me wrong, I don't think @Playmaker is a Clown fan at all, I know he is a Hawk fan. I'm just saying he sounds exactly like a Clown troll with that dipshit logic.
HawkU
Well-Known Member
I can imagine Barta gets tons of emails everyday. Do you think he has time to respond to everyone? If you think his job performance sucks now - what if he did take the time to personally respond?
And just because you didn't have it your way with a response does not automatically mean that your emails have not been noted and considered worthy of attention.
If you haven't seen it you might want to watch the ESPN segment about the wave that Hawk fans give to the Children's Hospital. (Have a kleenex handy btw)
At the end of the day it's just a game played and coached by people that 99.999% of us don't even know personally.
CJHawkeye
Well-Known Member
Rhetorical question for the win... someone doth protest too much.
Adam
Well-Known Member
Hey at least if we go 7-5 we will probably get a favorable bowl game matchup. The problem with our recent bowl games has been playing talented teams that we don't know at all. Teams that shatter our bend don't break because we don't know what is entirely coming at us. I think Phil Parker is one of the best DB coaches in the nation, but he is no Norm Parker. Norm could prepare for any offense in 1 week and shut them down. Guess what, Iowa will never beat a top 20 team if the defense is not amazing. Phil Parker has struggled to prepare his defense to play amazing in a bowl game. This equals bad losses. Music city bowl is probably what this team needs. CFP is already out of the window and odds to win the West are very long as Wisconsin and Purdue both appear to be better teams. So I am already thinking along the lines of finally winning a bowl game against a more average opponent and hopefully rolling some confidence into next season. The shitty thing for me is we always seem to have a senior stud on both sides of the ball and big question marks surrounding them and squandering their senior seasons leaving us looking ahead to next year. I feel terrible for Jewel and Wadley because this will be another wasted year unless we win out ( would bet my house against it).
JonDMiller
Publisher/Founder
I don't have the time to look this up, but I am guessing it's not rare
I don't care who you think I sound like. I'll call things as I see them. If you agree, great. If you disagree, that's great, too. It's when you disagree, and then roll out crazy rationale projections on me for the basis of why I say what I say that I have a problem with.
The world doesn't see everything the way that I do...and that's fine. What I abhor is when others can't get it through their heads that the world doesn't see everything the way they do, and they can't handle that, and come up with dumbassery to try to make themselves feel better because their opinions were not validated.
mopkins
King Kong
This is my issue with the play calling right here. This is every single 1st down running play by an Iowa running back vs Michigan State. Let me know if you notice a pattern.
Michigan State basically said "we dare you to run on 1st down" and Iowa said "hold my beer and watch me gain 0 yards"
1st and 10 at IOWA 48
(11:42 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for no gain to the Iowa 48
1st and 10 at IOWA 9
(7:51 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for a loss of 2 yards to the Iowa 7
1st and 10 at IOWA 28
(2:06 - 1st) Akrum Wadley run for 3 yds to the Iowa 31
1st and 10 at MSU 41
(15:00 - 2nd) Akrum Wadley run for 1 yd to the MchSt 40
1st and Goal at MSU 8
(15:00 - 2nd) Akrum Wadley run for a loss of 1 yard to the MchSt 9
1st and 10 at IOWA 8
(5:08 - 2nd) Akrum Wadley run for a loss of 2 yards to the Iowa 6
1st and 10 at MSU 25
(14:57 - 3rd) Akrum Wadley run for 2 yds to the MchSt 23
1st and 10 at MSU 33
(14:04 - 4th) Ivory Kelly-Martin run for a loss of 2 yards to the MchSt 35
My biggest disappointment is that I thought Iowa would modernize the run game. Year in and year out Iowa's best players are at the RB spot and TE. So why not implement a system that puts more than 1 RB out there and flexes the tightends out on smaller defenders? Love Vandeberg and Easley, but good god man, Young, IKM and Wadley (and Butler) all scream "get me on the field"!!
I think back to the first play of the season. I believe Stanley was in the gun, Butler next to him and Wadley in the slot. Wadley comes in motion and gets the ball. The play did not get any yards, but I was excited to see it! The NDSU run game! Sometimes give the ball to Wadley, sometimes to Butler on a counter or sometimes on a second man through, occasionally Stanley keeps it and runs, and sometimes play action pass. There you go! An entire offensive playbook out of one formation focused on your best players (Wadley, Butler and presumably Fant in the passing game). No wholesale substitutions every damn play. No keying on one player. Defense has to account for 3 different ball carriers, plus the pass.
I don't think the Hawks have gone back to that formation since
Instead it's back to old Iowa football - seems like they have to make 2-3 substitutions on every play, defense only has to account for 1 ball carrier, there are no constraints to keep the defense honest, and basically whatever side the QB opens is where the ball is going.
After NDSU beat the Hawks two years ago I was insanely jealous of their power run game scheme and still think it's a natural fit for Iowa. Can't believe Iowa hired Polesek, but apparently has no interest in implementing his running game which is designed specifically to control clock and to mitigate a talent gap.
I think back to the first play of the season. I believe Stanley was in the gun, Butler next to him and Wadley in the slot. Wadley comes in motion and gets the ball. The play did not get any yards, but I was excited to see it! The NDSU run game! Sometimes give the ball to Wadley, sometimes to Butler on a counter or sometimes on a second man through, occasionally Stanley keeps it and runs, and sometimes play action pass. There you go! An entire offensive playbook out of one formation focused on your best players (Wadley, Butler and presumably Fant in the passing game). No wholesale substitutions every damn play. No keying on one player. Defense has to account for 3 different ball carriers, plus the pass.
I don't think the Hawks have gone back to that formation since
Instead it's back to old Iowa football - seems like they have to make 2-3 substitutions on every play, defense only has to account for 1 ball carrier, there are no constraints to keep the defense honest, and basically whatever side the QB opens is where the ball is going.
After NDSU beat the Hawks two years ago I was insanely jealous of their power run game scheme and still think it's a natural fit for Iowa. Can't believe Iowa hired Polesek, but apparently has no interest in implementing his running game which is designed specifically to control clock and to mitigate a talent gap.
Yikes. First of all we only had 8 possessions. Second of all running on first down each and every single time like that with the lack of results is pretty self explanatory... Don't have to necessarily play action and go deep half the time but once in awhile perhaps would be good. I think BF is starting to show how green at this he is. It may have been asking a lot to hope for perfection from BF when he's got a new QB and so many new parts at WR and TE. Think about it Vandeberg is pretty much the only receiver with any experience to speak of. And 100% of that was with GD and different QBs. I hope I don't get railed at for saying this but on top of that Vandeberg isn't a #1 WR. He was at his best as a #2 or 3. To put him in a role he isn't suited for isn't exactly fair to him but the roster is what it is.
mopkins
King Kong
For clarification, those weren't every single 1st down play. Just the times we handed the ball to a RB on 1st down. Iowa actually threw the ball (or tried to) quite a bit on 1st down.
