Hawks are in the playoff

Normally I agree with this 100%.

However Notre Dame throws a kink into things. For example, undefeated Alabama, Clemson, and ND with 1 loss B1G champion (Iowa, Michigan, or Ohio St), and 1 loss Oklahoma at the end of the season. Alabama, Clemson, & ND are locks. Then it comes down to Oklahoma vs whoever the B1G champion is. Tough call here.

If it comes down to a 1 loss ND vs a 1 loss B1G champion, odds are on ND's side as well with their victory over Michigan unless Michigan gets blown out by Ohio St.

Agree. ND needs to take a loss, which I think they will at some point.
 
A zero or one loss Notre Dame gets in before a 1 loss B1G champ not named Michigan. If they win it it they'd be in, but anyone from our side of the fence is looking for bowl games instead. Notre Dame has a comparable SOS to anyone in the west (within 10 or so spots, you're splitting hairs at that point), a win against a top 10 team and 2 wins against top 15 teams.

If ND goes undefeated or has 1 loss and Oklahoma wins out the CFP will be as follows:

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Oklahoma
4. Notre Dame

The only way the B1G gets in is if it's Michigan winning the title. Anything other than that and the B1G goes home. You have to remember that the CFP committee is made up of a bunch of good old boys who favor the SEC and ACC first and above all else, and viewer market/potential revenue a close second. Is it right? No. But that's the way it is, and it's the reason we need to go to a P5 + 3 playoff format. I guarantee you ND and BYU would join up right away and it'd be best for everyone to have set qualifiers.


Not necessarily. Depends on Notre Dames schedule for whatever year.
 
There is a precedent that shapes what would need to happen for a 1-loss Iowa to get in. (First, remember that the odds we run the table are very, very small)

If we face a highly ranked team in the CCG and absolutely destroy them, we could possibly jump over other highly ranked teams with 1 loss and a bigger “name.” I am thinking back to when OSU blistered Wisky in the CCG. They were on the outside looking in, but the margin of victory and completeness of their win allowed them to jump over a team or 2 in the final ranking in order to get into the playoff.
 
Pretty small sample size to be making a guarantee like that but I'll take it.

Just so were clear, if Iowa or say NW god forbid wins out and then by a miracle from god would beat Michigan/OSU, and still not make it in over Oklahoma, ND, or anyone else, you agree to eat your shoe live on YT?

If so, I hereby promise to purchase for and ship to you a new pair of shoes up to and including $75 in value for said eating purposes, so that you don't have to eat a used shoe.


New, why does he get to eat a new shoe? I've got perfectly good (well bad) used shoes in my closet. Oh, I generally keep shoes for years.
 
New, why does he get to eat a new shoe? I've got perfectly good (well bad) used shoes in my closet. Oh, I generally keep shoes for years.
If it'll increase the odds that he actually eats it, I'll pony up $75. He can even keep the single leftover shoe.
 
Pretty small sample size to be making a guarantee like that but I'll take it.

Just so were clear, if Iowa or say NW god forbid wins out and then by a miracle from god would beat Michigan/OSU, and still not make it in over Oklahoma, ND, or anyone else, you agree to eat your shoe live on YT?

If so, I hereby promise to purchase for and ship to you a new pair of shoes up to and including $75 in value for said eating purposes, so that you don't have to eat a used shoe.

LOL, sounds like a plan. I am not worried at all about that prediction cause it's never gonna happen.

There's only gonna be 1 undefeated team if that at the end. There's just tons of years of history to support that in the CFB era were conference championship games are played. It not impossible, it just doesn't happen enough that I am confident to bet whatever you'd like even if it's eating some Kswiss.

That means, if one of these teams lose later in the year, they are bound to fall behind an Iowa team that is in the act of "winning out" .... that includes ND. If ND loses, this late in the year? and Iowa wins out - and ND is idle the last week of the season and Iowa is playing in the B1G championship against top 5 TOSU or UM? Iowa would probably be ranked in the top 6 in that scenario? No chance, the 1 loss B1G champ is going in.

NW is not eligible, they have 2 loses.

Iowa has shown that it CAN beat TOSU and pretty much owns Michigan, so let's not act like that would really be a miracle from GOD. Iowa, UM and TOSU are the only teams alive still in the B1G and if any of them win out and win the B1G championship, they are in the playoff.

edit: I don't think Iowa is going to win out.... but I will say it again, no 1 loss B1G champ is ever getting left out in the CFB playoffs unless by some weird freak accident that multiple undefeated teams are in. And even in that case, I still think the B1G probably would get in with 1 loss. Especially THIS year
 
A zero or one loss Notre Dame gets in before a 1 loss B1G champ not named Michigan. If they win it it they'd be in, but anyone from our side of the fence is looking for bowl games instead. Notre Dame has a comparable SOS to anyone in the west (within 10 or so spots, you're splitting hairs at that point), a win against a top 10 team and 2 wins against top 15 teams.

If ND goes undefeated or has 1 loss and Oklahoma wins out the CFP will be as follows:

1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Oklahoma
4. Notre Dame

The only way the B1G gets in is if it's Michigan winning the title. Anything other than that and the B1G goes home. You have to remember that the CFP committee is made up of a bunch of good old boys who favor the SEC and ACC first and above all else, and viewer market/potential revenue a close second. Is it right? No. But that's the way it is, and it's the reason we need to go to a P5 + 3 playoff format. I guarantee you ND and BYU would join up right away and it'd be best for everyone to have set qualifiers.

Only 1 loss Big ten team Notre Dame would get in ahead of is Michigan since they beat them.
 
I'll eat my shoe live on my youtube page the day after a 1 loss B1G champ gets left out. It's never happened, never gonna happen.

Agree 100%!!! Especially when left out last year. If left out two years in a row there would be a revolution. Jim Delaney will be paying a visit.
 
Pretty small sample size to be making a guarantee like that but I'll take it.

Just so were clear, if Iowa or say NW god forbid wins out and then by a miracle from god would beat Michigan/OSU, and still not make it in over Oklahoma, ND, or anyone else, you agree to eat your shoe live on YT?

If so, I hereby promise to purchase for and ship to you a new pair of shoes up to and including $75 in value for said eating purposes, so that you don't have to eat a used shoe.

Northwestern has too many losses. We are talking a 1 loss Big Ten Champ only.
 
Only 1 loss Big ten team Notre Dame would get in ahead of is Michigan since they beat them.
I understand your sentiment but this is a committee choosing teams by opinion, not by any numbers or formulas, or qualifiers. You can't say for sure that ND wouldn't get in with any more certainty than I can say they would. Every single year there's controversy on who gets chosen and who doesn't. That committee doesn't always make rational decisions because they have to choose 4 teams out of 6 or so that are almost all equally qualified.
 
nice try westender to keep us wstching and posting but the hawks do not control the so called destiny

Sure they do, at least until about 6:30pm CST tomorrow and if that is a win then at least until the next game at Purdue. We lost to Wisconsin and it was not a bad loss and it was relatively early. hawks do control own destiny.
 
Sure they do, at least until about 6:30pm CST tomorrow and if that is a win then at least until the next game at Purdue. We lost to Wisconsin and it was not a bad loss and it was relatively early. hawks do control own destiny.

Not if Wisky wins out , wisky basically has a 1/2 game lead on Iowa in the all important loss column because of their tie breaker win over Iowa. since all of these teams are playing each other we are not going to see a 3 way tie with teams with one loss that would negate the head to head tiebreaker.

Wisky still controls their own destiny because if they win out they give at least a 2nd loss to jNW and Purdue and Wisky would only have one loss.

Ask others on this site who is in the cat bird seat.
 
Not if Wisky wins out , wisky basically has a 1/2 game lead on Iowa in the all important loss column because of their tie breaker win over Iowa. since all of these teams are playing each other we are not going to see a 3 way tie with teams with one loss that would negate the head to head tiebreaker.

Wisky still controls their own destiny because if they win out they give at least a 2nd loss to jNW and Purdue and Wisky would only have one loss.

Ask others on this site who is in the cat bird seat.

I guess you should poll, but I would lay coin on Wisky losing another game. Probably 2.
 
If Iowa, ND, Alabama, Clemson, and Oklahoma all win out, there is a very good chance Iowa gets left out. And obviously Alabama can lose some games and still get in since they get an auto bid every year.
 
Yes is possible. We need a little help and most importantly, we'd have to get better each week. Not an easy task to win out. I'll be watching quite closely!
 
I just want Wisky to lose again so I can be proven right about them. I don't think they are all that good. Not nearly as good as the talking heads always seem to think anyway

You do realize Wisky is likely without their best WR, 3/4’s of their secondary, their starting QB, 2-defensive lineman, and 8-starters overall? Wisconsin isn’t very good. But Wisconsin isn’t the same team personnel-wise that received all the pre-season pub. It goes beyond normal course of the season injuries up there. Cephus was a legal issue.
 
This is a 4 game sudden death playoff. Or you can equate it to...Survivor. One will be voted off the island today! Possibly more!
 

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