Hawkeyes Escape in Champaign

[HawkeyeMHA]

Fran has done the team a service starting Woodbury from day one. He continues to improve though not by leaps and bounds.

Yes, if you look closely you can see improvement with woody. It's there. Watch and see

 

[HomerChampless]

Maybe, Fran is sending Woody a message to go harder to the rim to get those possibly easier shots and/or fouls. IMO, Woody has a better FT motion than Gabe's. Meaning his FT probably has a better chance to go in. Gabe's FT is really flat with little spin.

 

[ibahawkeye]

I don't know, does Gabe attempting more free throws mean he's a better offensive threat than Woody? I think Gabe's offense is limited to just under the basket (except for that one jumper in the Michigan game?) Can Gabe shoot the baby hook? How many short jumpers has he tried? If you were the Iowa coach, is that enough to warrant a limiting of Woody's minutes.. if you want to win?

Never said he was a better offensive threat. You just asked what he was better than Woody at and I gave you an answer.

In one threat I'm defending Woody... in the other I'm defending Gabe.

Why can't we just appreciate them both. It doesn't have to be Gabe vs. Woody. They are centers.... plenty of minutes to split between the 2 and both bring unique talents to the game.

They both average around 16 minutes a game, 6 points a game, 4-5 rebounds.

Woody is a more grounded anchor defensively. Gabe is the shot blocker.

On offense, we can run our offense by feeding Woody in the post where Gabe is more likely to get rebounds and put backs.

 

[kctom]

As for gabe v woody:

How about a 2014-15 rotation that includes BOTH at same time? With Whitey and Uthoff as 3-4s and game as occasional 4. Talk about a tough zone that would be....

 

[hawkfan33]

As for gabe v woody:

How about a 2014-15 rotation that includes BOTH at same time? With Whitey and Uthoff as 3-4s and game as occasional 4. Talk about a tough zone that would be....

I really think we will see them on the floor together a lot more next year. There might be some spacing issues offensively, but Woody is a good passer out of the high post and Gabe has shown a decent stroke especially in the short corner on the baseline. They are both elite offensive rebounders so having them in there together would lead to lots of second chance points.

 

[kctom]

Twin Towers revFran.

 

[HomerChampless]

Never said he was a better offensive threat. You just asked what he was better than Woody at and I gave you an answer.

In one threat I'm defending Woody... in the other I'm defending Gabe.

Why can't we just appreciate them both. It doesn't have to be Gabe vs. Woody. They are centers.... plenty of minutes to split between the 2 and both bring unique talents to the game.

They both average around 16 minutes a game, 6 points a game, 4-5 rebounds.

Woody is a more grounded anchor defensively. Gabe is the shot blocker.

On offense, we can run our offense by feeding Woody in the post where Gabe is more likely to get rebounds and put backs.

Why Fran played Gabe so much more in the Illinois game is what I want to know. Fran played Gabe 26 minutes and Woody the rest (14 minutes). Woody was never in foul trouble. Woody didn't seem to be injured or in a disciplinary 'time out'. Their season stats are pretty equal in most catagories. I'm not attacking your post, dude.

 

[HomerChampless]

I really think we will see them on the floor together a lot more next year. There might be some spacing issues offensively, but Woody is a good passer out of the high post and Gabe has shown a decent stroke especially in the short corner on the baseline. They are both elite offensive rebounders so having them in there together would lead to lots of second chance points.

Twin towers isn't a bad idea. IMO, Iowa would benefit with a truer 4 somewhere in its lineup. But the other way around. Woody as the 4 and Gabe as the 5. Woody seems to be a little more reluctant in playing to contact than Gabe.

What will Iowa do with Whitey, then? Make him struggle at the 3?

Iowa will probably have to play a lot of zone defense with the two on the court.

 

[kctom]

Twin Towers revFran is all academic as it's next yr.

But think of having 2 shot blockers on the paint...

A Aron struggling at the #3? not sure I can totally agree with that. He seems to play the same where ever he's at.

 

[HomerChampless]

White won't be able to drive past as many 3s as he can 4s.

 

[kctom]

"...White won't be able to drive past as many 3s as he can 4s...."

A Aron can drive against most anyone, especially smaller 3s,drawing fouls and getting to the line. That's what he does very well.

 

[theboat]

By how much is Gabe a better rebounder? Do you have any stats for a comparison?

Here you go. Compare College Basketball Players - StatSheet.com

I love Woodbury, but how can you claim Woody should be in for his defensive ability, and then in the same thread claim that Jok should play more. It don't compute.

 

[theboat]

Why Fran played Gabe so much more in the Illinois game is what I want to know. Fran played Gabe 26 minutes and Woody the rest (14 minutes). Woody was never in foul trouble. Woody didn't seem to be injured or in a disciplinary 'time out'. Their season stats are pretty equal in most catagories. I'm not attacking your post, dude.

Gabe was +5, Woody was +2. Gabe had the energy that Iowa needed that night. I don't understand why you are trying to make it into such a big deal. Woody is very important to this team, but your faux outrage is getting ridiculous.

 

[CJSHawk]

I think Josh will keep expanding his role this year, but more so next year when Dev is gone. He's actually a pretty good player who I think some will be surprised by next year with what he does.

I am a 'little' bit concerned with the timidity of Jarrod Uthoff. Hopefully he'll develop a mean on this offseason and more of a 'take charge' attitude.

Josh has had some good moments this year, but if he's Marble's replacement next year we're in trouble. A two-guard has to be able to get his own shot. Oglesby can't do that!