Hawkeyereport saying Coco Ware likely not coming to Iowa
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Hawk4Life76
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Completely speculating & could be wayyy off, but grades seems to be the issue, right? 1st team AA JUCO that ends up at Miss Valley State (no disrepect intended)
TheNebraskaHawk
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I have to believe that if Fran wanted Coco, he would be here, unless the grades are an issue as some have posted.
BALDIES7980
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FM has worked way too hard already in his tenure to think he is going to make a bad choice or just skip over somone if its a player he wants and he feels can help his team.
I don't care why they aren't coming thats Fran's job and for the first time in quite a while I feel we have a BB coach that we don't have to constantly question his intelligence at every move.
I don't care why they aren't coming thats Fran's job and for the first time in quite a while I feel we have a BB coach that we don't have to constantly question his intelligence at every move.
hawkeye2188
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Agreed, until Fran makes a mistake I will trust all of his actions.
hawkeye2188
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I saw him play a few times, has a nice shot and is a good shooter.
tm3308
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Now why didn't this program wake up and get that OTHER IC West sharpshooter who played at Kirkwood?.....oh yeah, I forgot, we didn't want to get all the pieces to actually win games the past 3 years.
storminspank
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Wouldn't he have just 1 year?
I should say I want to believe, we have no real evidence yet that he could get anyone he wants. I hope you are right, but right now all we have is hope. He has only brought one kid on board and he was a Sienna recruit and no matter what you may think, Sienna was not exactly a power house.
tweeterhawk
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This concerns me, too. Fran seems to have made a number of smart moves so far; I would be even happier if he had landed some immediate help for next year.
But, he's done this before. I think it's important for the Hawkeye fan base to give him the room and time to get it right.
chadfrey
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The lack of signings is surprising and the only negative I can see for Fran. However it is a big negative and pretty much sticks out.
However, for those down playing Sienna keep in mind that there last 4 years have been just as good as all but 4 Big Ten teams (Purdue, MSU, Wisc and OSU). Bringing Basabe could be a pretty big pickup. Lickliter brought in nobody from Butler.
What the lack of signing any additional players this year does is put a much bigger importance on the 3-4 players he signs for 2011. Probably nobody he would sign this year would put this team into the post season but he needs to have something positive happen for momentum in 2011.
However, for those down playing Sienna keep in mind that there last 4 years have been just as good as all but 4 Big Ten teams (Purdue, MSU, Wisc and OSU). Bringing Basabe could be a pretty big pickup. Lickliter brought in nobody from Butler.
What the lack of signing any additional players this year does is put a much bigger importance on the 3-4 players he signs for 2011. Probably nobody he would sign this year would put this team into the post season but he needs to have something positive happen for momentum in 2011.
homes
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Who is it that he should have signed that he didn't get, to make it such a big negative?
hawkeye12345
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The lack of signings is a little concerning but I think he is counting on the fans to give him a little slack while he rebuilds the program. With that said, the fan base is hungry for wins.
I for one am glad he didn't take a flyer on some of the PGs that are being considered. We all should know that next year is going to be a struggle and a JUCO PG isn't the long term answer. We're not going to be as bad as this year but it's going to be close. We just need to see signs of improvement throughout the year, get through ONE fricking year that our top player(s) don't transfer and then build from that.
Fran is working his butt off and with the staff that Iowa has assembled, we will be back. We gave Lick 3 years, alford 7, and neither of them was worth a dime. Lets just be patient and see where Fran takes us. I like what I've seen so far and am excited for the basketball season to start.
I for one am glad he didn't take a flyer on some of the PGs that are being considered. We all should know that next year is going to be a struggle and a JUCO PG isn't the long term answer. We're not going to be as bad as this year but it's going to be close. We just need to see signs of improvement throughout the year, get through ONE fricking year that our top player(s) don't transfer and then build from that.
Fran is working his butt off and with the staff that Iowa has assembled, we will be back. We gave Lick 3 years, alford 7, and neither of them was worth a dime. Lets just be patient and see where Fran takes us. I like what I've seen so far and am excited for the basketball season to start.
Really any player (JUCO or highschool) that could have either provided back court depth or a scoring threat. There were a lot of those type of players unsigned when Fran started. There were multiple JUCO players from Iowa as well as other places. Also getting Brust to stay on board would have filled this need. I am not saying that any of these players would have put us in the post season but many would have made us more competitive. Now 2010-11 we are going to get destroyed (just like last year plus or minus 2 wins) thus making the 2011 class that much more important. He needs a big early signing period because once the season starts it is going to be that much tougher to get people on board.
I was really hoping for Fran to bring in a player in the late signing period like he did when he started at Sienna. It didn't happen probably because he wasn't as familiar with the recruiting landscape. I still have confidence that with the staff assembled they will be able to right the ship but for the short term we haven't been able to get much momentum going.
homes
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To me, it was quite obvious that Brust did not want to come to Iowa as he saw the change in style of basketball being discussed not suitable to his game (hence, his visits to Wisconsin and Northwestern). As far as signing ANY junior college player, that is not much of a standard. The ones Fran recruited he seemed to cool on, so I'm speculating there is more to the story on both Salter and Ware, than what we've be told. The fact that he has invited 2 guards, one a JUCO, to walk on suggests he has his eyes on bigger fish and needs as many scholarships in the future as he can to fill those needs.
Next year will be rough, but not signing anyone else this year is not a negative, big, little or otherwise, to me. His actions (or lack of action) comes across as calculated and not impulsive or reactive.
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parquet
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He was a soph at Kirkwood. Why wouldn't he have two years left?
jparmley3
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Are you basing this off of W/L record?
I can assure that there were more than 4 teams who were better. I can also assure you that 99% of the people who actually watch college basketball would agree with me.
As for this recruiting mumbo jumbo and the overhype people are giving Franny, we still need to remember something:
Iowa is coming off the worst 3-year span in the 100+ year history of the program. In the HISTORY of the program.
We are not exactly a 'go to' school on the lists anymore as far as mens hoops is concerned.
BALDIES7980
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Add in the 7 yrs of struggles previous to that.
