Great Ricky Stanzi read-
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Not playing to his potential? Ok, what do you envision is his potential?
I mean,potentially do you expect him to be perfect? Name a player who ever played to his 100% potential,ie. no mistakes in a season. Because,technically, while taking as many as 800 snaps in a season, reaching their true potential means having 800 correctly played snaps in a row.
As Rittenberg noted in his column today on Stanzi, Ricky might be the most improved qb in the country this year. He has 16 tds and really only one interception in almost 200 throws.
I like Gamefilms analysis,because it purely based on film evidence and takes all emotion out of the picture. He does look at every single play and looks at best case outcome vs reality...and of course there will be plays that Ricky makes that do not result in best case outcome. But,as we all know, ball security was a big issue last year and he has probably dampened down risk-taking to improve in that area. Which means he might not take advantage of every play out there but also not turn it over as much. Tradeoff that KF is willing to live with.
Stanzi is on track to be all-conference...he is not our problem.
Jeebus
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His potential is winning the game in the last minute with 3 timeouts against a mediocre defense with no pass rush. You mean to tell me you think he has performed well in the clutch this year? Please. He's improved his stats for sure but hasn't performed as well in other areas. I'm pretty sure Rick would trade his QB rating for 2 more W's.
Never said he was our main or only problem. Said he could play better and that though the defense has taken most of the blame, the offense deserves some blame as well.
I don't really understand why I can't make a criticism of Ricky and not have you idolaters jump all over my @*#$&^%. Nobody said he was supposed to be perfect but taking a sack in that final drive??? Come on. He deserves a tad bit o' blame for that and some other bone head moves.
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I clicked the link...directed to a membership page...so I have a question for you guys, particularly Jeebus.
Does this game film guy see real game film, meaning wide from the press box, and Tackle box from the endzone tower? Or, is it someone watching a television replay? Third question, what are the credentials of this gamefilm guy?
Each answer is relevent to your critique.
Does this game film guy see real game film, meaning wide from the press box, and Tackle box from the endzone tower? Or, is it someone watching a television replay? Third question, what are the credentials of this gamefilm guy?
Each answer is relevent to your critique.
Rawkhawk73
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My guess, judging by how much he pimps this guy, is that he is "gamefilm guy" and is trying to get people to his site.
Jeebus
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I don't know the answers to your first two questions but I would doubt that he has access to actual game film. If he doesn't, that doesn't render his opinion necessarily false or inaccurate. It's certainly more in depth a study than any of us on this board do. I understand that without true game film he is missing a big part of the picture and my guess that is on a play where something isn't visible, he doesn't "grade" that particular snap.
As far as credentials, I believe he has stated that he has done this "for pay" before and is a former DB.
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Jeebus
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Nope. It isn't me. I've never actually posted anything over there. I just pointed to his posts as an objective analysis as opposed to the homer analysis of "his stats are good so he must be playing great" analysis over here.
Funny but there is one guy over there; a Carl Wulfsburg that would fit right in over here. He lambastes anyone who says anything negative about his Ricky.
1) I use the TV broadcast week to week and supplement it with end-zone and press box views when I can. I've got some contacts who can get a hold of wide-shots and end-zone views but I rarely go after those till after the season. The stuff isn't readily available and is fairly tightly restricted during the season. I do get limited access when I ask for specific parts of games and drives etc.....
2) I work on the side as a free-lance scout for NFL draft prospects. Mostly my evals end up in the hands of area scouts for NFL teams. I played college ball with a guy who ended up in the scouting field so that was how I got into it.
Hierarchy for most NFL teams Scouting
_Director of College Scouting
_____2-3 Region Scouts
__________5 or so Area scouts
_______________Local Contacts and Contractors - Where I fit in
hawkfaninTX
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wow get over yourself, he did lead the team down the field last saturday(whether it was successful or not is up to your opinion). I almost spit up when you said that Wisconsin's defense was mediocre (look at the tOSU box score, we were just as comparable in stats with a top 5 team.) Seriously, you may need advanced help of some sort. In Arizona we had been forced to pass all game, obviously that last serious could have played out differently, but other "big name" QB's have failed to show up for their teams in many games this year (i will name them all if i need to). dismount your high horse of football genius, pick your fantasy team this week, and finish your homework, but do not even place "equal" blame on stanzi because that is shared between the coaches-defense-& special teams.
MelroseHawkins
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Seriously, THANK YOU, for actually reading my post.
I like Stanzi and think he is a good player. I just don't think he is playing to his potential this yearand I'm tired of everyone blindly bashing on the defense. I'm still in AWE of how much time the line gave him to pass last week.
What exactly are your expectations? The guy has a passer rating of 174, the second best passer in the nation with 2 INT (one on him). He has passed for over 200 yds in every game. He is almost a lock for 1st team all Big10 up to this point & maybe 1st or 2nd team All-American candidate.
NFL QB's would like to have that passer rating. He is putting up great fantasy football numbers.
But, if you are saying he could do more, you may be referring to the offensive coordinator. It would be interesting if they put the ball in his hands & cut him loose a little more, but that is not Iowa f-ball with clock control.
SteveGarvey
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I really don't get this post. Stanzi played B+/A- football Saturday. It definitely wasn't on him.
Jeebus
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Jeebus
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I don't think this loss is Ricky's fault. It's a team game though, and he made his share of mistakes. I do have a problem that people are annointing him as the greatest QB ever just because of his passer rating.
If you remember correctly, Jake didn't throw many interceptions either....it's not exactly a perfect measure of success.
My expectations are for him to win the game if given a reasonable opportunity. I'd say two possessions and 3 timeouts in the last 9 minutes were reasonable opportunities. The offense scored 3 points.
Jeebus
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Nobody said it was all his fault. I'm just trying to get people to admit that he made some mistakes despite his sparkling stat sheet.
He didn't lose the game for Iowa but he sure as heck didn't win it either. That is all.
MelroseHawkins
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1) As Steave Deace would say "Ricky Stanzi is a leader of men". He is a great leader & has a great record as a starting QB in college football. He carries himself well. He literally brought Iowa from behind to win in almost all games last year. Most games, Iowa fell behind early. OK, so it didn't happen one game. I'll take what he has done over the span of 3 yrs, thank you.
2) You cannot compare Ricky & Jake. They are two totally different QB's & how they perceive their roles. IMO, Jake was too scared to take chances & that may have been his downfall. I don't think Jake wanted the neg INT stats so never took chances. This hurt him because he would wait until the receiver was wide a$$ open before throwing & often ended up eating it. Jake never threw a lot of INT's but he also did not have the success of Stanzi sec to this. Stanzi takes chances & gives other players a chance to make a play. Can't even compare them.
Jeebus
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Iowa fell behind a couple of times because of pick sixes. Has he been absolved from those too?
I like Rick and I would much rather he was our QB than Jake. Don't get me wrong. It would just be nice for people to acknowledge that it's not all on the defense or special teams and that our offense left some points on the field last Saturday. I think it's fairly obvious.
Throughout the year our combined offense and defense has done a great job of playing Iowa football. Doing what we do at a very high level. Sometimes the offense will have an off day, sometimes the defense. Together they have combined to put our team in situations that we would win every game. If we just execute special teams plays that we and every other college football team executes 99% of the time we are undefeated and ranked in the top 5.
Nit pick certain plays, play calling, clock management, quarterback/linbacker/cornerback play all you want. If you take out our special teams we are undefeated, period.
Nit pick certain plays, play calling, clock management, quarterback/linbacker/cornerback play all you want. If you take out our special teams we are undefeated, period.
HawkeyeTech
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Football fans in general (especially those who post in forums) amaze me. They expect perfection every week from young men playing in a game in which 250-300 pound men are flying around trying to kill each other, and when mistakes or imperfect plays are made, the players are disparaged as chokers and losers.
It's a game. Get over it.
It's a game. Get over it.
Jeebus
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Can't disagree.
Jeebus
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Don't think anyone on this thread has called anyone a choker or a loser but okay.
I'm sure your presence on here is strictly for psychological research.
