Goodson

[SpiderRico]

This staff is doing exactly what they should with a green, 190lb true freshman running back with big play ability. Easing him along. I'm pretty good with the running game where it's at. Sargent is our best overall back.....running, receiving, and blitz pick up. Young is the battering ram. Goodson is the shake and bake.

I like how we're utilizing all 3 of them. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

[Hawk1960]

This staff is doing exactly what they should with a green, 190lb true freshman running back with big play ability. Easing him along. I'm pretty good with the running game where it's at. Sargent is our best overall back.....running, receiving, and blitz pick up. Young is the battering ram. Goodson is the shake and bake.

I like how we're utilizing all 3 of them. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Agree, and we have IKM who I still think could be a nice piece to the whole running game by the end of the year if needed. We have a plethora (love using that word) of talent at the RB position, not to mention Brady Ross who throws some killer blocks on a regular basis.

 

[CP87]

It has been mentioned already, but I wanted to second the importance of Goodson being a willing blocker. It is a myth that Iowa doesn't play offensive players who aren't great blockers. You don't need to be great, you just need to be willing and know your assignment.

Think of Matt Vandenberg playing as a true frosh at 160lbs. Do you think he was a great blocker? Of course not, but he knew where to go, and he was at least willing to get his body in the way.

Goodson so far has not only shown surprising physicality when running the ball, but he has also shown a willingness to stick his nose in there when a block is needed.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

I think because you don't want to kill the kid. Bring him on slow. Don't show him a lot in pre-conf games and bring him on more and more as the season goes on.

No reason to showcase him early in the season against M of Ohio or Mid Tenn St.

Thankfully with the upperclassman depth at the position he was never going to get a ton of early reps without injuries happening. Before seeing him play very much I kinda thought they'd RS him. But turns out he's just too good to not have out there. At least for some reps. I only see his role increasing as we go so long as he don't put the ball on the ground.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

Thankfully with the upperclassman depth at the position he was never going to get a ton of early reps without injuries happening. Before seeing him play very much I kinda thought they'd RS him. But turns out he's just too good to not have out there. At least for some reps. I only see his role increasing as we go so long as he don't put the ball on the ground.

Exactly right. He's too good to sit. It will be advantageous to even just use him as a decoy once BIG teams know about him. More the defense has to think about and try to scheme against. He may end up being the X factor for this years team.

 

[vork22]

This staff is doing exactly what they should with a green, 190lb true freshman running back with big play ability. Easing him along. I'm pretty good with the running game where it's at. Sargent is our best overall back.....running, receiving, and blitz pick up. Young is the battering ram. Goodson is the shake and bake.

I like how we're utilizing all 3 of them. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Well we will find out if “it ain’t broke” Saturday. I think the kid should be the number 1 back just based on speed and talent. Sargent can come in on short yardage.

 

[SpiderRico]

Well we will find out if “it ain’t broke” Saturday. I think the kid should be the number 1 back just based on speed and talent. Sargent can come in on short yardage.

You're certainly entitled to that opinion. But as long as we run a pro-style offense, we aren't putting a guy in the backfield fulltime as the #1 guy who hasn't yet shown the ability to pick up the blitz....it just ain't happening. Sargent might be the best blitz pickup back I've seen at Iowa....certainly in the KF era. But Goodson's getting some great experience right now to prepare him well for his increased load over the next 3 years. Just like Akrum did.

 

[ArvadaHawk]

You're certainly entitled to that opinion. But as long as we run a pro-style offense, we aren't putting a guy in the backfield fulltime as the #1 guy who hasn't yet shown the ability to pick up the blitz....it just ain't happening. Sargent might be the best blitz pickup back I've seen at Iowa....certainly in the KF era. But Goodson's getting some great experience right now to prepare him well for his increased load over the next 3 years. Just like Akrum did.

i don't recall tgood missing any blitz pickups. but if ever we had a rb that you could use in a blitz situation it is tgood. stanley needs to identify the side the blitz is coming from, put tgood on that side and leak tgood out to the flat on that side. let the blitzer run right past tgood and throw him the ball.

 

[MelroseHawkins]

i don't recall tgood missing any blitz pickups. but if ever we had a rb that you could use in a blitz situation it is tgood. stanley needs to identify the side the blitz is coming from, put tgood on that side and leak tgood out to the flat on that side. let the blitzer run right past tgood and throw him the ball.

Same here. I don't specifically remember him biffing on any.

 

[InGoodCo]

I didn't see TG miss any pickups - that said, the chances of him being better at it then MS at this point in his career is about .0001 percent. I also don't know how he is at catching the ball out of the backfield? While I, like most of you, I see the huge potential in this talented Freshman.... I also see, like most of you don't, that Sargent is the better back "right now" and it's not even close.

 

[earlkoppelman]

Agree, and we have IKM who I still think could be a nice piece to the whole running game by the end of the year if needed. We have a plethora (love using that word) of talent at the RB position, not to mention Brady Ross who throws some killer blocks on a regular basis.

Punt returner or Martin?

 

[N8theGr8]

I didn't see TG miss any pickups - that said, the chances of him being better at it then MS at this point in his career is about .0001 percent. I also don't know how he is at catching the ball out of the backfield? While I, like most of you, I see the huge potential in this talented Freshman.... I also see, like most of you don't, that Sargent is the better back "right now" and it's not even close.

Exactly. TG has all the things you can't coach: speed, elusiveness, feel, but is lacking the things you can. MS has that extra bit of strength, the vision and knowledge to read his blocks, the trust of his QB. And it's not like MS doesn't have speed, elusiveness, and feel, same goes for IKM. And Young is a bulldozer in a way none of the other backs could hope to be. So it's impressive that he's been able to pick things up fast enough to get out there already.

Also, TG's time on the field this season is invaluable in his development process. Right now, he's already ahead of Wadley in his development process. He has more muscle than Wadley ever did, and already has more touches in 4 games (34) than Wadley did his entire first season (33) with a higher per carry average (5.9 vs 5.6). He's more on the Sophomore year Wadley track where Wadley had 83 carries for 496 yards and 8 TDs. I'm excited to see where he's at by the end of the season.

Also, assuming no one goes pro (looking at MS here), we'll have this entire crew back next year and the future of our OLine has been getting great experience this season.

 

[ICHawk24]

Don Patterson called Goodson a liability in pass pro right now on the All Hawkeyes podcast this week.

He is a great talent, and may have a breakout game in the next two weeks. Maybe PSU is his "Wadley vs. Michigan 2016" moment.

I don't think Goodson is anywhere near his listed 190. Wadley was listed at his "Doyle ideal weight" for a couple years before he actually reached it.

 

[Hawk1960]

There were times when I think the Iowa staff was too consumed about Wadley's weight. I hope that's not the case with Goodson. He's getting some quality time so maybe they are past that. We have plenty of other guys who can do the ground and pound work between the tackles. Rondale Moore is only 180 pounds and he's pretty good.

 

[Hawkeyes5]

MO of KF....Stick with guys who have paid their dues? Always has and will most likely stay that way. Right or wrong KF is loyal

What reasons might there be for him to NOT be playing 25ish snaps and get 10 or more touches a game?

Knowledge of O? I haven't seen him make a slow decision out there on the field he seems to know what to do on any given play

Blocking. If he's not very good at that yet so what. Don't put him in a situation where he'd be asked to then... Duh

Fumbling. I haven't seen him do that yet so... No worries there

I'm struggling to find another reason if any of you can help me out. But clearly with what he brings to the table he should be getting some significant touches out there. I'm not saying give him bell cow touches yet (nobody seems to be in line for getting those anyway) The guy is a big chunk play/HR hitter and just the threat of him out there has value. Might be time to take the training wheels off and see what kind of damage he can do.

 

[hawkinn3]

Call me crazy but after 20 years I trust Kirk to know the proper amount of snaps to give a guy. We aren’t in practice, we don’t know the mistakes he makes that the coaches can see popping up against better competition.

 

[GesterHawk]

There were times when I think the Iowa staff was too consumed about Wadley's weight. I hope that's not the case with Goodson. He's getting some quality time so maybe they are past that. We have plenty of other guys who can do the ground and pound work between the tackles. Rondale Moore is only 180 pounds and he's pretty good.

They were consumed with the fact that Wadley wasn't taking that part of his training seriously. He wasn't listening to the coaches on it, that is not a great way to build trust.
My guess that while a bit under weight right now, TGood is probably listening to the coaches on how to maintain and possibly put on good weight during the season.

 

[GesterHawk]

Well we will find out if “it ain’t broke” Saturday. I think the kid should be the number 1 back just based on speed and talent. Sargent can come in on short yardage.

Once again, we have someone erroneously equating athletic ability with being a superior football player. While it is a large part of it, it is not all there is to it, especially with what KF and Co expect out of their players.

 

[GesterHawk]

But when have those touches taken place? Mostly in 4th quarters and garbage time. The other 2 RBs split carries for 3 Qs with Goodson getting the 4th to himself so far. The game is called differently and isn't the same as opposed to the start and meat of it. I'd like to see more of him when it matters.

Like the ISU game?

 

[DDThompson]

Young has had a couple long runs where he pretty much wasn’t touched. That run he had Saturday would have been a touchdown if it was Goodson.

And maybe that play isn’t called if Goodson is in