"Get in the hole" guy

wundergrape said:
I was at the Bridgestone last year when some dude screamed at Johnson Wagoner on the green during his backstroke, "Pornstachio Lives!!!" The dude ran off down the next fairway before security could get to him. It was the stupidest thing I've ever seen/heard at a professional sporting event. Johnson sank the put, shrugged, and flexed his enormous, obviously juiced bicep as he strolled off the green*.


*the final part is fabricated for the sorry souls who actually think that PEDs aren't pervasive in this sport. Because they are. Look at these guys.
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Pictures of the top 10 guys in the world. All obviously roided up......

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Those guys are JACKED! I gotta find out where they buy their steroids so I can buy some too. I don't know how some of these guys are 5'11 170 lbs
 
Wassabbe said:
Those guys are JACKED! I gotta find out where they buy their steroids so I can buy some too. I don't know how some of these guys are 5'11 170 lbs
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So...your takeaway from those pictures is that they aren't on PED's, right?

I find your visual evidence short of persuasive.
 
wundergrape said:
So...your takeaway from those pictures is that they aren't on PED's, right?

I find your visual evidence short of persuasive.
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Yeah those 5'11 180 lb golfers don't look like they are on PED's. The only guy that is jacked enough where you could wonder is Adam Scott and even he looks just like a normal in shape guy.

People that think PED's help in golf obviously never played golf at a decent level. They wouldn't help you.
 
Wassabbe said:
Yeah those 5'11 180 lb golfers don't look like they are on PED's. The only guy that is jacked enough where you could wonder is Adam Scott and even he looks just like a normal in shape guy.

People that think PED's help in golf obviously never played golf at a decent level. They wouldn't help you.
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5'10 165 Lance Armstrong didn't look like he was on PED's either.


Anything which requires strength, stamina, and help with injury recovery is theoretically helped by PEDs. Golf falls into all three categories. They're juicing. Wrap your mind around it.
 
wundergrape said:
They do have to accept it. As long as we pay these athletes hundreds of millions of dollars, the individuals juicing will always benefit more than the enforcers. In other words, it's an incentivized industry wherein the technology of performance enhancement will always trump the testing because the money funnels to the enhanced. Individuals have incentive to juice. Franchises have incentive to bring in the juiced. Leagues have almost no incentive to divert money from the players to the enforcers.

Unless you think that a society-wide boycott is within the realm of possibility, you're just as blind as can be. Juice is here to stay. It has been for 25 years. You just didn't realize it.
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If you think it has been around for the last 25 years then I pity you.
 
wundergrape said:
Fine. Call it 15. Call it 10. Whatever.

I thought we were bros, bro.
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We are brother, I think it has been around a lot longer. I remember when I was a kid and I am 37 now hearing Bobby Hebert talk about taking stuff that was meant for animals, specifically horses to help recover from injury and help with conditioning. If I remember right, he was talking about this when he was in college, or just when he broke in the league.

All this talk of juicing and whatever, Organizations knew about it, if Canseco was doing this in '88 or earlier, he had to find out from someone. The people that think it wasn't there earlier and don't question the history I have a problem with. How do we know HOF'er were taking stuff, but it wasn't called "steroids" it is a debate that we could have forever. I think the evolution of PEDs is probably coincidental with some of the "athletes" in all sports "evolving" and to not believe it is sad.

Look at drugs and the Olympics, if they are doing it there then...

PED regulation has to be across the board the same for all professional sports, but Unions will never agree so that is just a big fat pipe dream. The penalties should also be handed out by the same board as well, but again just a big fat mf pipe dream.
 
wundergrape said:
Fine. Call it 15. Call it 10. Whatever.

I thought we were bros, bro.
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Lyle Alzado: "I started taking anabolic steroids in 1969 and never stopped."

The movie: "The Program" which came out in 1993 and featured steroid use, that was 20 years ago.

I love you brother, but I think you are a bit off on how long you think it has been in professional sports.
 
sportstalent said:
We are brother, I think it has been around a lot longer. I remember when I was a kid and I am 37 now hearing Bobby Hebert talk about taking stuff that was meant for animals, specifically horses to help recover from injury and help with conditioning. If I remember right, he was talking about this when he was in college, or just when he broke in the league.

All this talk of juicing and whatever, Organizations knew about it, if Canseco was doing this in '88 or earlier, he had to find out from someone. The people that think it wasn't there earlier and don't question the history I have a problem with. How do we know HOF'er were taking stuff, but it wasn't called "steroids" it is a debate that we could have forever. I think the evolution of PEDs is probably coincidental with some of the "athletes" in all sports "evolving" and to not believe it is sad.

Look at drugs and the Olympics, if they are doing it there then...

PED regulation has to be across the board the same for all professional sports, but Unions will never agree so that is just a big fat pipe dream. The penalties should also be handed out by the same board as well, but again just a big fat mf pipe dream.
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Oh, got you. Yeah, you get it.
 
Muirfield is sooo much more pleasant to watch except the occasional dip1111 American yelling get in the hole. I don't understand it, Clap. Why do people in the UK have such good manners and we do not. Look at Wimbledon, they clap every point and you rarely hear yelling until the end, Soccers where they yell
 
sportstalent said:
Lyle Alzado: "I started taking anabolic steroids in 1969 and never stopped."

The movie: "The Program" which came out in 1993 and featured steroid use, that was 20 years ago.

I love you brother, but I think you are a bit off on how long you think it has been in professional sports.
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Speaking of illegal drugs, check this out. Dock Ellis threw a no hitter while high on LSD.

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Strawberry pitched on coke but lsd? I dropped one time 25+ years ago at Hillcrest and went to Kinnick for a game. The people in front of us were wasted and one of the guys kept flicking nacho cheese on the back of his chicks head. Funny s***!! If any of the golfers are juicing Tiger would be my first guess
 
HerkyDude said:
Strawberry pitched on coke but lsd? I dropped one time 25+ years ago at Hillcrest and went to Kinnick for a game. The people in front of us were wasted and one of the guys kept flicking nacho cheese on the back of his chicks head. Funny s***!! If any of the golfers are juicing Tiger would be my first guess
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Tiger wouldn't be my first guess. Mine would be Camillo Vellegas would be and then Adam Scott after that Dustin Johnson and so on and so forth. My point is, Tiger would have had to be doing it all along, but people have been talking about his work ethic since he was at Stanford. Now, if he was doing it then well that is another story.
I think it is the PGA, but honestly, I couldn't tell you who, but if they don't test for it why worry about and let some older golfer pull a "Conseco" and just watch all hell break loose.
 
sportstalent said:
Tiger wouldn't be my first guess. Mine would be Camillo Vellegas would be and then Adam Scott after that Dustin Johnson and so on and so forth. My point is, Tiger would have had to be doing it all along, but people have been talking about his work ethic since he was at Stanford. Now, if he was doing it then well that is another story.
I think it is the PGA, but honestly, I couldn't tell you who, but if they don't test for it why worry about and let some older golfer pull a "Conseco" and just watch all hell break loose.
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Dustin Johnson? GTFO

You guys are clueless.

Hank Haney wrote a book on Tiger after he was fired. He talked about how Tiger would disappear to go work out with Navy Seals. He's fit b/c he works hard, not because he's on PED's.

In what way would PED's help your golf game?
 
Wassabbe said:
Dustin Johnson? GTFO

You guys are clueless.

Hank Haney wrote a book on Tiger after he was fired. He talked about how Tiger would disappear to go work out with Navy Seals. He's fit b/c he works hard, not because he's on PED's.

In what way would PED's help your golf game?
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Dude settle down, I mention Johnson because everyone talks about how "athletic" he is and such, but the thing is the younger players have generally been the ones that are just killing the ball. Now, that said do I think PEDs is widespread in golf, no.

Do I believe there are players that take PEDs, yes. Honestly, it doesn't matter because no matter how flipping far you hit the ball, if you don't have a feel for shots strength means nothing. PEDs are not going to help a player putt.

When it comes right down to it the mental aspect of the game outweighs everything else. I don't know anything though.
 
You guys totally hi-jacked my thread!

Now "GET OUT OF THE HOLE"!! And start your own steroid thread about pansy looking golfers elsewhere
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Hard telling, if they aren't going to test its mute issue. I doubt my favorites would do Zach, Phil, McDowell Talkin golf have you guys seen the tennis player Rory is dating? Smokin
 
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