FYI CJ Beathard again shows he is ready

[uihawk82]

$3.52 mil over 4 years ain't bad to not get hit

No it is not. Smart people getting that much money that quick with a good financial mind and good support people can invest that wisely and never be short of money.

Heck, he could take mortgages out for 5 $200,000 duplexes with that money as collateral and let the renters pay off his mortgages over 20 years and be 48 years old with all his money and owning 5 duplexes outright worth $2.5 million more. Over that 20 years he is making dough on other investments. All the while he can be playing and writing music.

 

[Stanzi]

Beautiful pass by Joe T!

 

[Stanzi]

Patrick way out of position on defense. Lucky Purdue missed that shot.

 

[BeerZaux]

lol Stanzi

 

[proudhawkfan21]

They see him everyday in practice but its been a couple of years of practice, education and body re-shaping since his last real opportunity to be the #1. He might surprise folks. If anything Mullens was a bit "favored" by the coaches. Mullens is just missing something. He's just a c@ck-blocker. Sure he's pretty enough late at night but he's just running interference.

 

[MILHAWKEYE]

Nice upset win for Beathard!

 

[Northside Hawk]

Nice upset win for Beathard!

Not a Bears fan, but that helps them in a big way as well.

 

[uihawk82]

Nice upset win for Beathard!

Yes, CJ had a good line and even threw a few away, it helped he had a really good running game going and the 9ers defense played really well. Poor Robbie Gould almost looked the kicker he was at penn st when Iowa beat him.

Three TDs were nice and of course two to the FBack sneaking out of the backfield ala Kirk and Ken Okeefe

 

[WinOneThisCentury]

Arizona was playing for their playoff lives...and their goal was to force CJ into turnovers...and put the game in his hands. Well...Shannahan is a smart cookie...and the 49ers ran the ball all over them.

What I'm saying is that CJ didn't win a game in a mop up late season game...he beat a team with alot to play for...let's see how he does against Seattle next week. Would love to have him play well next week too.

 

[trj]

Arizona was playing for their playoff lives...and their goal was to force CJ into turnovers...and put the game in his hands. Well...Shannahan is a smart cookie...and the 49ers ran the ball all over them.

What I'm saying is that CJ didn't win a game in a mop up late season game...he beat a team with alot to play for...let's see how he does against Seattle next week. Would love to have him play well next week too.

I would love for Iowa to steal some of the 49ers run game concepts. They dip their toe in the water with some of the jet sweep stuff, but man I wish they would dive all the way in.

 

[JoeyLabasForPresident]

It was a lot of fun the see CJ have a nice game. I wish I wouldn’t have missed the first half but didn’t realize it was on Amazon Prime, I’ll have to go watch it on Game Pass.

 

[uihawk82]

I would love for Iowa to steal some of the 49ers run game concepts. They dip their toe in the water with some of the jet sweep stuff, but man I wish they would dive all the way in.

Did you see the old style pulling guard type sweeps they ran mostly in the second half? Quick pitch to running back going full speed wide, pull one or two linemen, dont even block the runside DEnd but just a chip, by that time the running back is crossing the LOS with two big bodies in front of him and receivers like Kittle blocking downfield.

In the first half most of their runs were straight ahead blasts with zone blocking or some slight counter runs many straight ahead with a trap block.

Later in the game they bust out some different running plays and blocking schemes, a great game plan.

 

[proudhawkfan21]

There were 4 balls that were dropped...at least...should have been caught types. I recall 2 bad passes, one was bad footwork trying to sling it to the sideline. Otherwise, he looked good, made some plays, limited mistakes. Turnover was his arm his just before release, tuck rule play, fumbled 4 seconds left in half no real chance to score.

 

[WinOneThisCentury]

Yes, CJ had a good line and even threw a few away, it helped he had a really good running game going and the 9ers defense played really well. Poor Robbie Gould almost looked the kicker he was at penn st when Iowa beat him.

Three TDs were nice and of course two to the FBack sneaking out of the backfield ala Kirk and Ken Okeefe

The first one to the fullback was just a beautiful short throw. He hit him right in stride with a bit of a floater that was just perfectly thrown with touch. I forgot how quickly CJ can get the ball out.

He made a bad throw on a busted play were he rolled right and had a guy deep but underthrew it. He should have run for the first down. Then he had the one where it almost got picked and was a terrible throw...other than that...he was in complete control. One other poster talked about a few drops...there were certainly at least 3, one that Kittle just flat out whiffed on that would have gotten him to 100 yards receiving.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

That was an AZ team with every incentive to try and win at home and they just couldn't win. The 9ers D should take a bow after that. Murray threw 50 times and Hopkins didn't do shit. Verret shut him down.

CJ did great and didn't have to do more then he did. They ran the ball all over them between the 20s and then threw it in the redzone to score. I think only one WR caught a single pass all day. Just Kittle and the RBs the rest of the time. That FB of theirs Juice is an absolute stud. They use him a lot of different ways and I still think he's underutilized. Not a coincidence he was such a big part of the game plan.

Hope CJ can have a great last game and hopefully be brought back to the 9ers going forward. Been a lot of talk of them cleaning house with the QB position but maybe if he does great this last game he can resign. I think he likes it there and being with Kittle has to be awesome.

 

[uihawk82]

The first one to the fullback was just a beautiful short throw. He hit him right in stride with a bit of a floater that was just perfectly thrown with touch. I forgot how quickly CJ can get the ball out.

He made a bad throw on a busted play were he rolled right and had a guy deep but underthrew it. He should have run for the first down. Then he had the one where it almost got picked and was a terrible throw...other than that...he was in complete control. One other poster talked about a few drops...there were certainly at least 3, one that Kittle just flat out whiffed on that would have gotten him to 100 yards receiving.

You could see on the slow mo replay Kittle look downfield a split second early as I think he knew he had room to make a move. After 4 weeks off who could blame him.

Back when CJ was finishing his Sr season a friend of mine who is not a big sports fan, doesnt watch much football except the hawks with friends, said he didnt think CJ was NFL material at all. I mentioned, like you did, that he has a quick release, throws a nice ball as in spiral, can throw it with both high velocity or loft and touch, and is really very accurate. CJ always had the arm strength and still does to throw the long out pattern to the sidelines which you have to have at the pro level

 

[MelroseHawkins]

You could see on the slow mo replay Kittle look downfield a split second early as I think he knew he had room to make a move. After 4 weeks off who could blame him.

Back when CJ was finishing his Sr season a friend of mine who is not a big sports fan, doesnt watch much football except the hawks with friends, said he didnt think CJ was NFL material at all. I mentioned, like you did, that he has a quick release, throws a nice ball as in spiral, can throw it with both high velocity or loft and touch, and is really very accurate. CJ always had the arm strength and still does to throw the long out pattern to the sidelines which you have to have at the pro level

The reason people say stuff like that is that they don't want to put themselves out on a limb. With the odds, its much safer to say "This guy is not NFL material or will make it...." vs saying the player has a chance. Then when it happens that the player doesn't make it, they can always say they knew it or nailed it feeling smart.

There are many factors to why a QB will make it, not just arm strength or the ability to make certain or the majority of throws, I.E. End zone corner route, back shoulder, short screen to RB or TE, rocket slant, etc..

Many novice individuals just think of passes as a general but don't really understand a QB making "ALL" the throws which is like a bunch of tools in a toolbox. Need the correct tool for the job. They don't understand reading defenses or reads. They don't understand correct footwork. They don't understand there is a certain accepted threshold for the size of a NFL QB's hands. My point is they don't understand all the stuff that makes a good or great NFL QB. They just like to make blanket statements then let you know they were right. "See, I told ya....".

If you want to know how much he really understands, ask him what CJ is lacking in his game or the reason(s) he won't or wouldn't make a good NFL QB. If he can't come up with sensible reasons, then you can summarize that your friend really doesn't know shit.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

The reason people say stuff like that is that they don't want to put themselves out on a limb. With the odds, its much safer to say "This guy is not NFL material or will make it...." vs saying the player has a chance. Then when it happens that the player doesn't make it, they can always say they knew it or nailed it feeling smart.

There are many factors to why a QB will make it, not just arm strength or the ability to make certain or the majority of throws, I.E. End zone corner route, back shoulder, short screen to RB or TE, rocket slant, etc..

Many novice individuals just think of passes as a general but don't really understand a QB making "ALL" the throws which is like a bunch of tools in a toolbox. Need the correct tool for the job. They don't understand reading defenses or reads. They don't understand correct footwork. They don't understand there is a certain accepted threshold for the size of a NFL QB's hands. My point is they don't understand all the stuff that makes a good or great NFL QB. They just like to make blanket statements then let you know they were right. "See, I told ya....".

If you want to know how much he really understands, ask him what CJ is lacking in his game or the reason(s) he won't or wouldn't make a good NFL QB. If he can't come up with sensible reasons, then you can summarize that your friend really doesn't know shit.

So much of it is just decision making within that split second of the snap being done. There's what is done pre snap as far as decision making and then there's the reading what the D is doing right after it. All those dudes at that level have arms. If they don't that disqualifies them from the jump some are just more impressive then others. Josh Allen last night showed off his he's a stud. It's the combination of being able to make the right decisions pre and post snap along with making all the throws that makes an NFL qb stand out. Man that Allen kid has made such a huge jump from last yr to this one he's quickly became a favorite of mine.

 

[earlkoppelman]

That was an AZ team with every incentive to try and win at home and they just couldn't win. The 9ers D should take a bow after that. Murray threw 50 times and Hopkins didn't do shit. Verret shut him down.

CJ did great and didn't have to do more then he did. They ran the ball all over them between the 20s and then threw it in the redzone to score. I think only one WR caught a single pass all day. Just Kittle and the RBs the rest of the time. That FB of theirs Juice is an absolute stud. They use him a lot of different ways and I still think he's underutilized. Not a coincidence he was such a big part of the game plan.

Hope CJ can have a great last game and hopefully be brought back to the 9ers going forward. Been a lot of talk of them cleaning house with the QB position but maybe if he does great this last game he can resign. I think he likes it there and being with Kittle has to be awesome.

CJB!

 

[MelroseHawkins]

So much of it is just decision making within that split second of the snap being done. There's what is done pre snap as far as decision making and then there's the reading what the D is doing right after it. All those dudes at that level have arms. If they don't that disqualifies them from the jump some are just more impressive then others. Josh Allen last night showed off his he's a stud. It's the combination of being able to make the right decisions pre and post snap along with making all the throws that makes an NFL qb stand out. Man that Allen kid has made such a huge jump from last yr to this one he's quickly became a favorite of mine.

If I had to sit and think about one attribute that really sets one QB apart from another as far as being successful in the NFL, it comes down to one very important skill that not everyone has. I feel what sets many QB's apart at the NFL level is the ability to throw in windows anticipating the WR's to catch up to the ball in said window.

This is why you can have the strongest armed QB with great footwork, running ability, all the throws, etc.. that may not be successful. They have to be quick with their throws, Yes, but they have to not wait until they see a receiver open like in high school or possibly college. They have to throw to windows and trust the receivers.

If I had to pick one, one of the skills that sets QB's apart at the NFL level, it would be this.