First Offensive Play Of The Year...

[WinOneThisCentury]

You have to put a "fake to Goodson to the left, naked boot by Petras hits La Porta on a drag for a quick 12 yards to the sideline." I doubt he's throwing over the middle on the first play...I like the choice to La Porta.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Yeah...Brohm won't sit back and let Petras get comfortable. Here what I like though. You have, for sure, three future NFL high draft picks starting on the OL for Iowa...how high of draft picks remains to be seen (Jackson, Linderbaum, and Cronk)...that's some serious beef and skill. You have 5 guys vying for the guard spots...and three of them have a ton of experience (Kallenberger, Banwart, Schott). Let's face it...the guard spot wasn't exactly our best position last year...especially after Banwart & Schott went down. I'm not knocking the Paulsons...but they didn't start the bowl game or play much in that game for a reason...but they played a ton against Michigan, Penn State, and Wisconsin due to injuries. This group is going to be a major step up if we keep them healthy.

I like the fact that they should be able to handle the pressure that Purdue brings...and there should be some great match-ups with Smith, Smith-Marsette & Tracy...big play potential. What I really want to see is the team that played and had SC completely off balance in the bowl game...running the ball, spreading the ball around, and using your best playmakers in space. That was a great game plan...and SC couldn't stop anything.

What I also like is that Iowa has not 1 not 2 but 3 RBs that can catch passes. Be it as a blitz beating outlet or screen passes etc. Besides TEs throwing to the RBs could be a new QBs comfort food early on. If teams come after him I bet we see a lot of that.

 

[Fryowa]

Looking down the road, apparently Padilla is pretty nimble, and the Deuce ran a 50-flat 400m as a freshman in HS, so we might actually see a legit QB run threat eventually.

Deuce ain't gonna see the field as a Hawk unless it's garbage time this year. Zero chance he's gonna wait 3 years for Petras to graduate. That's not this kid's DNA. Kind of a shame because he was all in on the Hawks on social media and did a lot of selling the program to recruits.

After this year is over you're gonna see a transfer back to Tejas to play for a spread offense Big 12 team.

Not his fault really, he was just born two years too early.

 

[okeefe4prez]

Not his fault really, he was just born two years too early.

Or you could say he took two too many Texas Redshirts. Or you could say he took two too few Texas Redshirts.

 

[Fryowa]

What I also like is that Iowa has not 1 not 2 but 3 RBs that can catch passes. Be it as a blitz beating outlet or screen passes etc. Besides TEs throwing to the RBs could be a new QBs comfort food early on. If teams come after him I bet we see a lot of that.

I wish they'd go back to 2 RB sets and dump the FB. In my opinion it's the most flexible set because with one backfield configuration it still allows for 1TE/2WR, 1TE/1WR/1SLOT, or 2TE/1WR (with Hawkenson and Fant we make it to Indy 2 years ago). Any reverse, sweep, screen, or option is available out of that one set.

Daniels/Wadley and Butler/Wadley (aka: But Wad) was pretty effective, especially since there was a more contact-oriented runner (Butler and Daniels) to go along with Wadley. IKM and Sargent are that style of guys.

I know Brady Ross was a popular dude, but IKM and Sargent can be just as effective as blockers and you open up infinite possibilities with two run options instead of just one.

 

[koralakers]

None of the above. Stretch run into the boundary for 2 yards. 80% of KFs offense over last 20 years. Why stop now

 

[Fryowa]

Or you could say he took two too many Texas Redshirts. Or you could say he took two too few Texas Redshirts.

Here's how my 40 year old brain could make a 17 year old rich and never have to lift a finger if I'm Deuce Hogan. The problem is when you're young you only think about 20 mins into your future.

He's a gunslinger cocky type like Mayfield and Manziel...

1) Go to one of the high flying Big 8 spread schools, where you know you're going to throw for 5,000 yds a year just by shear number of attempts and hundreds of three wide post routes on repeat.

2) You know very well that your style doesn't translate to NFL success but that NFL owners and most GMs are idiots and they draft your type first round.

3) Take your shiny new locker in Cleveland, Jersey, Jacksonville, or some other third world NFL shithole that hasn't made the playoffs since Ruth Ginsberg's 16th birthday, and let the very lucrative fun begin.

4) You know within a year or two that your Big 8 arm ain't gonna do shit against NFL DLs and linebackers, let the fans burn you in effigy for two more years like they always do, and ride off into the sunset, middle fingers in the air, with your $40 million guaranteed money plus another $25 million in misguided endorsements that Nike gave you.

And there you have it. You were big man on Tejas Tech's or TCU's campus for four years and got more ass in one weekend than Louie Anderson's toilet seat got in his whole life. You have $50 million bucks which you can double in ten years, and neither you nor your family ever have to work again. All for 4 easy peasy seasons in the NFL where no one can tackle you in practice and the worst thing that will ever happen to you is a bunch of proletariat suckers making $35K a year selling cars or welding truck hitches bitch about how you suck to the call in radio shows.

That's how I'd do it..

 

[Grady]

Yeah...Brohm won't sit back and let Petras get comfortable. Here what I like though. You have, for sure, three future NFL high draft picks starting on the OL for Iowa...how high of draft picks remains to be seen (Jackson, Linderbaum, and Cronk)...that's some serious beef and skill. You have 5 guys vying for the guard spots...and three of them have a ton of experience (Kallenberger, Banwart, Schott). Let's face it...the guard spot wasn't exactly our best position last year...especially after Banwart & Schott went down. I'm not knocking the Paulsons...but they didn't start the bowl game or play much in that game for a reason...but they played a ton against Michigan, Penn State, and Wisconsin due to injuries. This group is going to be a major step up if we keep them healthy.

I like the fact that they should be able to handle the pressure that Purdue brings...and there should be some great match-ups with Smith, Smith-Marsette & Tracy...big play potential. What I really want to see is the team that played and had SC completely off balance in the bowl game...running the ball, spreading the ball around, and using your best playmakers in space. That was a great game plan...and SC couldn't stop anything.

How DARE you trash what is currently the #25 team in the country. (USC)

 

[okeefe4prez]

Here's how my 40 year old brain could make a 17 year old rich and never have to lift a finger if I'm Deuce Hogan. The problem is when you're young you only think about 20 mins into your future.

He's a gunslinger cocky type like Mayfield and Manziel...

1) Go to one of the high flying Big 8 spread schools, where you know you're going to throw for 5,000 yds a year just by shear number of attempts and hundreds of three wide post routes on repeat.

2) You know very well that your style doesn't translate to NFL success but that NFL owners and most GMs are idiots and they draft your type first round.

3) Take your shiny new locker in Cleveland, Jersey, Jacksonville, or some other third world NFL shithole that hasn't made the playoffs since Ruth Ginsberg's 16th birthday, and let the very lucrative fun begin.

4) You know within a year or two that your Big 8 arm ain't gonna do shit against NFL DLs and linebackers, let the fans burn you in effigy for two more years like they always do, and ride off into the sunset, middle fingers in the air, with your $40 million guaranteed money plus another $25 million in misguided endorsements that Nike gave you.

And there you have it. You were big man on Tejas Tech's or TCU's campus for four years and got more ass in one weekend than Louie Anderson's toilet seat got in his whole life. You have $50 million bucks which you can double in ten years, and neither you nor your family ever have to work again. All for 4 easy peasy seasons in the NFL where no one can tackle you in practice and the worst thing that will ever happen to you is a bunch of proletariat suckers making $35K a year selling cars or welding truck hitches bitch about how you suck to the call in radio shows.

That's how I'd do it..

I like the idea, but the risk is that at some point the NFL is going to catch onto the scam. If they do and you slide to the 6th round, you have a really good chance of getting cut. Then, your best hope is selling used cars in Lubbock. It's a dangerous gamble.

 

[Fryowa]

I like the idea, but the risk is that at some point the NFL is going to catch onto the scam. If they do and you slide to the 6th round, you have a really good chance of getting cut. Then, your best hope is selling used cars in Lubbock. It's a dangerous gamble.

I'm honestly surprised he hasn't bounced yet to be honest.

He had to know during his recruitment that there was a guy set to be a sophomore right ahead of him when Stanley was done and that Kurk likes three year QBs. I'm sure he was planning on winning the competition and I would bet my house that his dad is talking to southern teams under the radar right now.

This was part of an interview from one of Tyler Devine's articles when Hogan was still in high school:

“For me it’s a lot more team oriented,” Hogan said. “Personally, I want to play in the NFL, that’s what it is and they’re a translatable system. My personal goal is to do what I need to do to get to the next level, then Big Ten records, Iowa records, that would be great. Heisman Trophy, Davey O’Brien, that’s what I dream about. But I want to go, I want to win the Big Ten championship and get the opportunity to get to play in the College Football Playoff. There’s going to be big dogs we’re going to have to get through.

“I said I was a winner, but it’s very rare that I have the best team. We won the state title my freshman year and that team was truly great. But a lot of the times while I’ve grown up, the odds are not always in my favor. There’s nothing better than stepping into a hostile environment where you’re the underdog and coming out on top. That’s what I intend to do, win championships.”
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Absolutely none of that is the personality of someone who is going to sit three years and maybe play two. If he does it would basically be four calendar years since he started a football game and that was high school. Almost impossible to not play in games for that long and be successful.

Anyone talking about Deuce Hogan with respect to the effect he's going to have on Hawk football is wasting his or her time.

 

[okeefe4prez]

Anyone talking about Deuce Hogan with respect to the effect he's going to have on Hawk football is wasting his or her time.

If we look like shit on offense this year due to bad QB play, Hogan will be given a shot next year. He shouldn't make any plans until he sees our offense in action. Kurt, with the help of QB guru Ken O'Keefe, got Stanzi into the mix. He got CJB into the mix. There is definitely a level of expertise Kurt needs to see to stick with a guy and it's really premature to slate Petras in as the starter for the next 3 years. Hell, he might cut out after he wins the Heisman next year and we win the natty.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

I wish they'd go back to 2 RB sets and dump the FB. In my opinion it's the most flexible set because with one backfield configuration it still allows for 1TE/2WR, 1TE/1WR/1SLOT, or 2TE/1WR (with Hawkenson and Fant we make it to Indy 2 years ago). Any reverse, sweep, screen, or option is available out of that one set.

Daniels/Wadley and Butler/Wadley (aka: But Wad) was pretty effective, especially since there was a more contact-oriented runner (Butler and Daniels) to go along with Wadley. IKM and Sargent are that style of guys.

I know Brady Ross was a popular dude, but IKM and Sargent can be just as effective as blockers and you open up infinite possibilities with two run options instead of just one.

Yeah having another threat is probably the better move for more plays then not. I mean unless you're strait up running power football and are using the FB as an Olineman with a head start I'd be all for that. But even in pass protection there's little difference between the RBs and FBs. Especially if they are chipping DEs. With split backs that can both swing out that puts a strain on the LBs or even DBs. Having a FB in as a decoy or even an as a check down is not necessary

 

[Fryowa]

Yeah having another threat is probably the better move for more plays then not. I mean unless you're strait up running power football and are using the FB as an Olineman with a head start I'd be all for that. But even in pass protection there's little difference between the RBs and FBs. Especially if they are chipping DEs. With split backs that can both swing out that puts a strain on the LBs or even DBs. Having a FB in as a decoy or even an as a check down is not necessary

If I’m a linebacker and I see Goodson and Sargent working opposite directions I’m not so quick to dive as I would be if I saw Goodson and Montegue Copperpot or Pottabottom or whatever that blonde kid’s name is.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Deuce ain't gonna see the field as a Hawk unless it's garbage time this year. Zero chance he's gonna wait 3 years for Petras to graduate. That's not this kid's DNA. Kind of a shame because he was all in on the Hawks on social media and did a lot of selling the program to recruits.

After this year is over you're gonna see a transfer back to Tejas to play for a spread offense Big 12 team.

Not his fault really, he was just born two years too early.

I want to say you're wrong about this so bad but.... It makes sense in todays climate. Too many QBs are bouncing around like free agents in the NBA now. If they even think they are good let alone if they actually are or not they have one eye looking around for their best shot to play. The X factors here being is Petras any good himself and does he get hurt early on or not... If he's even serviceable with the weapons we have he'll do pretty well. Heck he may even be all that and a bag of chips too. I mean the kid was amazing in HS playing at a top shelf Cali school. We might just might have ourselves a big time game changer here.

We got Petras to commit before Zach Wilson did who ended up going to BYU. I think we'd offered the Wilson kid earlier but he kinda was taking his time looking around and maybe my memory is off but I thought Petras committed to us first forcing his hand to go to BYU. Where he's playing really well so far.

 

[Fryowa]

I want to say you're wrong about this so bad but.... It makes sense in todays climate. Too many QBs are bouncing around like free agents in the NBA now. If they even think they are good let alone if they actually are or not they have one eye looking around for their best shot to play. The X factors here being is Petras any good himself and does he get hurt early on or not... If he's even serviceable with the weapons we have he'll do pretty well. Heck he may even be all that and a bag of chips too. I mean the kid was amazing in HS playing at a top shelf Cali school. We might just might have ourselves a big time game changer here.

We got Petras to commit before Zach Wilson did who ended up going to BYU. I think we'd offered the Wilson kid earlier but he kinda was taking his time looking around and maybe my memory is off but I thought Petras committed to us first forcing his hand to go to BYU. Where he's playing really well so far.

I couldn't fault the kid for doing it, if his dream is to play NFL ball, being a backup for almost four calendar years and hoping you still have the stuff left for maybe two seasons isn't the way to go about it.

I know I've said this before but he was just born in the wrong year.

 

[CP87]

If I’m a linebacker and I see Goodson and Sargent working opposite directions I’m not so quick to dive as I would be if I saw Goodson and Montegue Copperpot or Pottabottom or whatever that blonde kid’s name is.

Hawks only played with FB about 28% of plays last year. This coming year, I would expect it to be <20%.

You have 3 top RBs who are also good receivers and capable pass-pro guys. But you can also put someone like Beyer or Lachey in as a move-TE to do traditional FB-lead stuff, but they can double as a legit receiving mismatch with 6'5" frames and huge catch radii.

Love me some fullbacks, but let's save their brains and up our explosiveness by cutting them down to about 15 snaps a game or fewer.

 

[CP87]

I couldn't fault the kid for doing it, if his dream is to play NFL ball, being a backup for almost four calendar years and hoping you still have the stuff left for maybe two seasons isn't the way to go about it.

I know I've said this before but he was just born in the wrong year.

You make good points, and you very likely could be right. But you also made a similarly decisive prediction on Alaric Jackson leaving after he spent some time in the doghouse, and luckily you were wrong on that. I will hope this prediction ends up like that one (as I am sure you will, too).

Best case scenario is Petras absolutely lights it up, and we can legitimately talk about early entry after fall '21. Then Padilla and Deuce are battling for the starting spot in their respective RS Junior and Soph years.

 

[Northside Hawk]

Last year I was ready to send a post saying the first play would be a delay of game.

And that's exactly what happened. Only I never sent the post. I felt like I had stayed on seventeen at the blackjack table, then the next person had been dealt a four.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

Hawks only played with FB about 28% of plays last year. This coming year, I would expect it to be <20%.

You have 3 top RBs who are also good receivers and capable pass-pro guys. But you can also put someone like Beyer or Lachey in as a move-TE to do traditional FB-lead stuff, but they can double as a legit receiving mismatch with 6'5" frames and huge catch radii.

Love me some fullbacks, but let's save their brains and up our explosiveness by cutting them down to about 15 snaps a game or fewer.

That's interesting I'd have not guessed it was that low. I'd have thought maybe 35-40ish. But yeah with it being around that 28% mark i don't see it going up. Only down from there. But we use them situationally so some games will be more then others on if we have more goaline opportunities or just short yardage etc. Between the 20s we won't be lining up with them much.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

I couldn't fault the kid for doing it, if his dream is to play NFL ball, being a backup for almost four calendar years and hoping you still have the stuff left for maybe two seasons isn't the way to go about it.

I know I've said this before but he was just born in the wrong year.

For sure. Heck there's another scenario in which what if Petras looks like a stud. He'd be able to go pro after this yr... One yr wonders have done it before in fact it's in their best interest to. Gives scouts less to nit pick over. The only reason I'd be down for that is that'd mean we'll have had a hell of a year.