Fant - Effort issues continue?

I was asking myself, "self, should Noha have laid out for the overthrown ball?" I think the defender had his arm blocked and he could not move himself into driving posture or maybe he looked up too late to get a fix on the bal. And why the hell would a #1 rounder risk a stupid injury laying out for a ball in the first exhibition game. And maybe it was just plain overthrown and he had no shot at it.
 
It's amazing what he can do when thrown on the fly and has a coach who believes in him seems to me.
That was, what, a five route?

He made a killing at Iowa on that route, had some nice catch and runs.

I think his long TD vs Nebraska in 2017 was a five route.

Another thing, the announcer was incorrect. It was Fant's second NFL touchdown, not his first.
 


Its about time he did something. I watched him closely this year. Lots of drops and false starts, holds and bone headed stuff. I dumped him off of my fantasy team when I had to get a new QB

should I pick him back up? sign of things to come? or is it just Cleveland?
 
That was, what, a five route?

He made a killing at Iowa on that route, had some nice catch and runs.

I think his long TD vs Nebraska in 2017 was a five route.

Another thing, the announcer was incorrect. It was Fant's second NFL touchdown, not his first.

He did. He also should have made a bigger killing at it. Like a massacre.. With that threat, think of the running game openings. Think of the passing game openings. Think of.... well... it should have been more.
 
Fant had a great career at Iowa, super exciting, I thought he was a great hawk. We arent totally sure about KF and BF's thinking on maybe not blocking the best, being a "specialist" (which was an interesting comment. No one is perfect and he made mistakes and drops but he is like a poor fielding left fielder like Dave "kong" Kingman who is going to make some errors in the field some of which will allow some extra runs but he will Way More than make up for it by hitting 30+ HRs a year and knocking in 80+ RBIs. Fant was and is way more positive than negative when he only half makes a block.
 
Fant had a great career at Iowa, super exciting, I thought he was a great hawk. We arent totally sure about KF and BF's thinking on maybe not blocking the best, being a "specialist" (which was an interesting comment. No one is perfect and he made mistakes and drops but he is like a poor fielding left fielder like Dave "kong" Kingman who is going to make some errors in the field some of which will allow some extra runs but he will Way More than make up for it by hitting 30+ HRs a year and knocking in 80+ RBIs. Fant was and is way more positive than negative when he only half makes a block.
Kingman's errors only told half the story. You generally have to reach a ball to make an error on it. His errors didn't even take into account the balls he couldn't reach. He had no confidence going back on a ball, so he would position himself practically on the edge of the warning track, allowing plenty of would be outs to drop in front of him. He had very limited lateral range, so the center fielder would have to shade several steps towards Kingman, which opened up the right center field gap for countless doubles and triples. Add to all this the fact that Kingman played in the artificial turf era, and the fact that equally inept (on defense) Bobby Murcer was in right field and you had a major problem on your hands with outfield defense.

Kingman could hit those bombs, however. When we would take charter bus trips to Wrigley in the late seventies our driver always had us there in plenty of time to watch BP. And the adults, who would normally head for the bars until game time, would go in early and watch as well when Kingman was in the house.
 
He hit that first defender like a truck. He spun him like a top on the ground. Big time play for him and it directly attributed to them winning (which they hadn't done much of lately) With Flacco out and their season up in the air it'll be interesting how he develops. He Lindsay and Sutton I really like. They have some pieces. There's obviously some missing ones for them too. Be it QB or whatever it is
 
Kingman's errors only told half the story. You generally have to reach a ball to make an error on it. His errors didn't even take into account the balls he couldn't reach. He had no confidence going back on a ball, so he would position himself practically on the edge of the warning track, allowing plenty of would be outs to drop in front of him. He had very limited lateral range, so the center fielder would have to shade several steps towards Kingman, which opened up the right center field gap for countless doubles and triples. Add to all this the fact that Kingman played in the artificial turf era, and the fact that equally inept (on defense) Bobby Murcer was in right field and you had a major problem on your hands with outfield defense.

Kingman could hit those bombs, however. When we would take charter bus trips to Wrigley in the late seventies our driver always had us there in plenty of time to watch BP. And the adults, who would normally head for the bars until game time, would go in early and watch as well when Kingman was in the house.

You just described the current Cubs issues in OF.

Fant is not comparable.
 
You just described the current Cubs issues in OF.

Fant is not comparable.
Almora, Schwarber and Heyward/Castellanas are nowhere close to the cesspools in the Cubs OF in the seventies. Remember Rick Monday, Jerry Morales, and Jose Cardenal?

Want to fathom how many games the Cubs lost in those days because their outfield couldn't cut off a ball in the gap or prevent a runner from going first to third?

Outfield defense wasn't the Cubs issue last year. Rotation injuries, blown saves, and key injuries to Contreras and Baez ended up being their downfall. And looming over the whole season was the spectre of Joe Maddon being a lame duck which led to a lot of mental mistakes.
 
Almora, Schwarber and Heyward/Castellanas are nowhere close to the cesspools in the Cubs OF in the seventies. Remember Rick Monday, Jerry Morales, and Jose Cardenal?

Want to fathom how many games the Cubs lost in those days because their outfield couldn't cut off a ball in the gap or prevent a runner from going first to third?

Outfield defense wasn't the Cubs issue last year. Rotation injuries, blown saves, and key injuries to Contreras and Baez ended up being their downfall. And looming over the whole season was the spectre of Joe Maddon being a lame duck which led to a lot of mental mistakes.

No doubt pitching is huge, but that OF just couldn't cover. Schwarber just can't run. He couldn't get to a lot. Losing Fowler was huge...besides he tossed me a ball several years ago. The Cubs gave up a lot of extra bases ....no speed.

Kingman was awful on D. These Cubs aren't as bad as those Cubs but the outfield isn't championship material. Neither is the bullpen.. I will never sit through another game pitched by Quintana. He is slower than Iowa play calling to get a pitch made.

Remember when Kingman stuck a ball in the ceiling of the Metrodome?
 
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say I bet the Lions aren't having that trouble with their new TE.

Unless Hock gets hurt. He will have a long pro bowl career. Can't say the same for Fant. Fant could be several teams by the time he's done. Hock might go to one or two. And for top dollar.
 

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