ESPN has Iowa's Recruiting Class Ranked 9th in the Big 10

[HawkeyeWalker]

Can't pass up a good argument w/ you. Why does a historically top 20 program struggle to be top 20 in recruiting? Makes no sense. Guess we aren't Maryland. Let the excuses rolllllllllll.

Better question...why is a historically 40-50th recruiting program consistently a top 25 program.

Let the hate rolllllllll

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

Kurt Ferrets has pretty much guaranteed another four seasons of mediocrity. And Hawkeye fans will be satisfied with that.

By having about the 4-5th best ranked class of the past 18 years? Cmon Tweeter.

 

[IndianaHawk]

As several have stated, no difference in #33, 43, whatever. Now it comes down to who can coach these closely rated 18-22 year olds. I like our odds. Evaluate everyone in four years.

 

[EstronHawkKing]

Stop worrying about 17 / 18 / 19 year old fictional ratings are and worry about winning. Otherwise go fly a kite or something.

I'll go fly a kite when you put down your Playgirl magazine

 

[BigD]

Why does anyone bother to follow this stuff? After eighteen years of KF coaching we all got a real good idea of how this is all going to shake out. Unless Brian brings something different to the offense that changes things we will be what we have been for eighteen years. I hope Brian surprises us all and KF let's the dogs out. If not well.................. yawn.............

Now if your bored and got nothing better to do with your time well then have at it.

From an offensive stand point I hope the apple falls from the tree and rolls down a mile long hill.

 

[EstronHawkKing]

Why does anyone bother to follow this stuff? After eighteen years of KF coaching we all got a real good idea of how this is all going to shake out. Unless Brian brings something different to the offense that changes things we will be what we have been for eighteen years. I hope Brian surprises us all and KF let's the dogs out. If not well.................. yawn.............

Now if your bored and got nothing better to do with your time well then have at it.

From an offensive stand point I hope the apple falls from the tree and rolls down a mile long hill.

Well, maybe if he got some more 4 & 5 star recruits we'd actually win a Big 10 championship, it's only been 13 years since that last happened. We'd also be a more consistent program every year.

 

[tweeterhawk]

By having about the 4-5th best ranked class of the past 18 years? Cmon Tweeter.

I put you down as "satisfied" then.

 

[Playmaker]

--------I'm not too upset. The coaches that caused this are gone.

No they aren't.....Ferments is still here.

 

[revkev73]

Let's be positive...

The recruiting didn't end the way the last 4-5 bowls ended...

KF has a proven track record, we need to trust Kirk...he knows what he is doing, other than during a game.

 

[HomerChampless]

Yet I think most recruiting outfits have us ahead of Wisky... How those that try to differentiate between the 30th-50th ranked classes is beyond me. It's a crap shoot. If your at one of those camps do you think you can tell the difference between the 32nd best right guard and the 44th? Granted it's easy to look at AJ Epenesa and say that dude is a stud. But for a bunch of the other kids it's just a time will tell scenario. KF can't sit there and say that he knew for a fact Gallery was going to turn into a stud. Or that Yanda would have.. The same way he hoped that Jake Christiansen was bound for greatness till he couldn't throw a pass to a RB in the flat... I like the class overall. Martin could have really topped it off. I don't think losing Eno affects a thing the two RBs coming look pretty solid to me.

Please, don't try to equate Wisky's program with Iowa's program. Wisky has the defense. Iowa doesn't .

 

[HawkGold]

Better question...why is a historically 40-50th recruiting program consistently a top 25 program.

Let the hate rolllllllll

Conisrently is a moving target through out the year. Werent the Hawks 10th or close before losing to top ranked Ndsu?

 

[HawkGold]

How far back are you talking about?

There is dirt younger than me.

 

[tweeterhawk]

There is dirt younger than me.

But is the dirt dirtier than you?

 

[DDThompson]

Please, don't try to equate Wisky's program with Iowa's program. Wisky has the defense. Iowa doesn't .

I think you mean offense. If not, hater has not only got to hate but be idiotic too.

Wisconsin 3rd in conference scoring (15.6) and 4th in yds/play (4.9).

Iowa was 4th in conference scoring (18.8) and 5th in yds/play (5.1).

Staggering splits there.

 

[DDThompson]

How in the lazy content world that this coaching staff lives in can they take only 4 recruits from under Lovie's and 3 from under Badger's nose? How can they only get four from SEC country?

Fire 'em!!!!!!!






(my 4-star KF-H impersonation)

 

[70sHawk]

Interesting article: http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/want-a-national-title-sign-top-ten-classes-020316

 

[deanvogs]

Interesting article: http://www.outkickthecoverage.com/want-a-national-title-sign-top-ten-classes-020316

Totally agree. If you want a national title, more than likely you are going to have to get a top 10 class. Now I think you can make the playoffs without one, which has already been proven (MSU, Washington). But if you want to take down a Bama or Clemson in the playoffs, it would be difficult without that top 10 type class.

For instance the Pac12 title game was between Washington (#37, #31, #37, #18, #22) vs Colorado (#66, #72, #64, #66, #37) Also Wisconsin was close to making the playoffs this year, and Iowa last year.

That is one of the reasons that winning your conference should automatically qualify you for the playoffs. The schools that recruit well are automatically inflated in the polls, there is a bias toward them. If you lose, you lose, and just because you have better "ranked classes" should mean you are the "best team". Lets make these guys earn it on the field instead of some smoke filled room with ESPN and a bunch of dudes.

 

[Hawk4Fan]

There are more than enough 4 and 5 star bust stories out there, just as there are plenty of 2 and 3 stars who end up better. Stop being delusional.

the only one being delusional is you, rankings DO matter and if you settle for 2/3 stars all the time like KF likes to do you not winning the big big games, and Iowa isn't either they getting embarrassed in every Bowl game lately.

 

[rschneider]

Same reason Wisconsin does. Not a big urban population to pull from (and Wisconsin has better population than Iowa). Also a big reason the "rankings" never look good for a Wisconsin and Iowa is they are not afraid to take 2* kids they have evaluated themselves as much greater than some Rivals guy ranked them.

Both Iowa and Wisconsin pulled the trigger on Martin after they had him at camps. They didn't care at the time that he was a 2* kid that Rivals barely had on their radar. If he would have committed to one or the other, they would have taken it, and felt great about it, and Martin stays a 2* kid as he then doesn't camp for Rivals and blows up. That type of recruiting, especially with Iowa/Wisconsin kids that get no exposure is gonna keep your rankings low. Another example of this is Nathan Stanley. Stanley camped with Iowa, and Iowa instantly offered and made him priority #1. They didn't care that at the time he was a 2* or low 3* nobody. Sure Rivals re looked at him and bump his * rating up, but Iowa was there first. Same with Mansell. The staff is out recruiting, and they run across him, watch him throw, evaluate him and offer him. At the time he was a low 3* nobody. He has a good Sr. year and he gets re evaluated by Rivals and now he is a 5.7 3* guy. Yet sometimes they don't re evaluate at all, they only did with Mansell because he did lots of 7 on 7 camps.

The simplistic view of well we have the 9th rated B1G class so we are the 9th best period, end of story we are gonna suck is just stupid. There is very little to no difference between the #30 class and the #45 class. You hit on a Stanley, or Wadley, or a King or a Jewell or a Watt, or a Biegel, or one of the countless other under recruited/evaluated kids that come out of Wisconsin and Iowa then there you go from #45 to #30 in an instant. Iowa and Wisconsin trust their evaluations skills and more time than not, they are right. If a kid camps with one of those two teams and earns an offer, you can be damned sure the kid can play, and if that was a Rivals camp, they would increase their rankings with the performance they showed at that camp.

Too bad most let your words go in one ear and out the other. Your spot on, Kirk has lived off of these types. Get them committed before they are known. Iowa is not going to win many head to head battles over kids against the big name schools.

 

[deanvogs]

Too bad most let your words go in one ear and out the other. Your spot on, Kirk has lived off of these types. Get them committed before they are known. Iowa is not going to win many head to head battles over kids against the big name schools.

Yep, add Brandon Smith to the list as well. Find him out in the middle of nowhere, and Bell tells him that the offers will come now that Iowa is offered. Sure as shit they did, but he didn't tweet them all out, the SEC came and a B1G West school as well. Yet Rivals has him as a low 3* kid with no big offers (only MAC level and Vanderbilt).