ESPN has Iowa's Recruiting Class Ranked 9th in the Big 10

It means little really if you are #33 or #43. Iowa is behind the B1G blue bloods and probably always will be (OSU, Michigan, Penn St., Nebraska). I know Nebraska isn't a real blue blood, but they do traditionally recruit in the #20's and sometimes even better.

Now the interesting one is Maryland. They have landed a really good class, as they have convinced a bunch of the east coast guys to stay home. I wonder if this will start being a trend, as Maryland has the Under Armor name and $$$$

Iowa is right in line with the next group of B1G schools. On 247 from #34-#43 you have MSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, Rutgers....then just behind at #47 is Northwestern.

Basically it is BS saying one of this group is somehow head and shoulders above another. Time will tell (and my guess is) Wisconsin, Iowa and MSU will do the best out of that group.

Think of it more as a Tier grouping. You got the Top A+ grade (OSU, Michigan, Penn St.) Then you got a A grade (Maryland and Nebraska). Then you got the B/B+ grade (MSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, Rutgers and Northwestern). Then you got the C grades (Minnesota, Indiana, Purdue)
 
This year's class C+

Jumped off to a strong 1st quarter, missed opportunities in the 2nd & 3rd quarters but closed well late after digging out for most of the 4th quarter. A couple more wins here and there with some of our more esteemed and long pursued candidates and we're in B territory.
 
ohhawk said:
This year's class C+

Jumped off to a strong 1st quarter, missed opportunities in the 2nd & 3rd quarters but closed well late after digging out for most of the 4th quarter. A couple more wins here and there with some of our more esteemed and long pursued candidates and we're in B territory.
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Completely disagree. B or B+ for this years class.
 
Hawk4Fan said:
Yeah because fictional ratings don't mean anything, just Ask alabama, OSU, ect...
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There are more than enough 4 and 5 star bust stories out there, just as there are plenty of 2 and 3 stars who end up better. Stop being delusional.
 
HawkGold said:
Can't pass up a good argument w/ you. Why does a historically top 20 program struggle to be top 20 in recruiting? Makes no sense. Guess we aren't Maryland. Let the excuses rolllllllllll.
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Same reason Wisconsin does. Not a big urban population to pull from (and Wisconsin has better population than Iowa). Also a big reason the "rankings" never look good for a Wisconsin and Iowa is they are not afraid to take 2* kids they have evaluated themselves as much greater than some Rivals guy ranked them.

Both Iowa and Wisconsin pulled the trigger on Martin after they had him at camps. They didn't care at the time that he was a 2* kid that Rivals barely had on their radar. If he would have committed to one or the other, they would have taken it, and felt great about it, and Martin stays a 2* kid as he then doesn't camp for Rivals and blows up. That type of recruiting, especially with Iowa/Wisconsin kids that get no exposure is gonna keep your rankings low. Another example of this is Nathan Stanley. Stanley camped with Iowa, and Iowa instantly offered and made him priority #1. They didn't care that at the time he was a 2* or low 3* nobody. Sure Rivals re looked at him and bump his * rating up, but Iowa was there first. Same with Mansell. The staff is out recruiting, and they run across him, watch him throw, evaluate him and offer him. At the time he was a low 3* nobody. He has a good Sr. year and he gets re evaluated by Rivals and now he is a 5.7 3* guy. Yet sometimes they don't re evaluate at all, they only did with Mansell because he did lots of 7 on 7 camps.

The simplistic view of well we have the 9th rated B1G class so we are the 9th best period, end of story we are gonna suck is just stupid. There is very little to no difference between the #30 class and the #45 class. You hit on a Stanley, or Wadley, or a King or a Jewell or a Watt, or a Biegel, or one of the countless other under recruited/evaluated kids that come out of Wisconsin and Iowa then there you go from #45 to #30 in an instant. Iowa and Wisconsin trust their evaluations skills and more time than not, they are right. If a kid camps with one of those two teams and earns an offer, you can be damned sure the kid can play, and if that was a Rivals camp, they would increase their rankings with the performance they showed at that camp.
 
deanvogs said:
Same reason Wisconsin does. Not a big urban population to pull from (and Wisconsin has better population than Iowa). Also a big reason the "rankings" never look good for a Wisconsin and Iowa is they are not afraid to take 2* kids they have evaluated themselves as much greater than some Rivals guy ranked them.

Both Iowa and Wisconsin pulled the trigger on Martin after they had him at camps. They didn't care at the time that he was a 2* kid that Rivals barely had on their radar. If he would have committed to one or the other, they would have taken it, and felt great about it, and Martin stays a 2* kid as he then doesn't camp for Rivals and blows up. That type of recruiting, especially with Iowa/Wisconsin kids that get no exposure is gonna keep your rankings low. Another example of this is Nathan Stanley. Stanley camped with Iowa, and Iowa instantly offered and made him priority #1. They didn't care that at the time he was a 2* or low 3* nobody. Sure Rivals re looked at him and bump his * rating up, but Iowa was there first. Same with Mansell. The staff is out recruiting, and they run across him, watch him throw, evaluate him and offer him. At the time he was a low 3* nobody. He has a good Sr. year and he gets re evaluated by Rivals and now he is a 5.7 3* guy. Yet sometimes they don't re evaluate at all, they only did with Mansell because he did lots of 7 on 7 camps.

The simplistic view of well we have the 9th rated B1G class so we are the 9th best period, end of story we are gonna suck is just stupid. There is very little to no difference between the #30 class and the #45 class. You hit on a Stanley, or Wadley, or a King or a Jewell or a Watt, or a Biegel, or one of the countless other under recruited/evaluated kids that come out of Wisconsin and Iowa then there you go from #45 to #30 in an instant. Iowa and Wisconsin trust their evaluations skills and more time than not, they are right. If a kid camps with one of those two teams and earns an offer, you can be damned sure the kid can play, and if that was a Rivals camp, they would increase their rankings with the performance they showed at that camp.
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Iowa recruits more heavily in Iowa and SD than does Wisky. Hawks do recruit MD. They have some Texas parts, but that connection likely left. Wisky recruits a fair number from Florida and some from Ca.

A quick glance tells me that Wisky does better at skill positions in recruiting.

If you are going to develop 2 stars the best position to do it is in the interior. I do believe that the gem in Wadley was an after thought after the guy from Mason City fell through or was injured, but not sure. In other words, Wadley was a great find, but it was an afterthought find at that. Btw, he is one of my fav Hawks ever.
 
HawkGold said:
Can't pass up a good argument w/ you. Why does a historically top 20 program struggle to be top 20 in recruiting? Makes no sense. Guess we aren't Maryland. Let the excuses rolllllllllll.
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i dunno. The opposite reason an historically top 20 program in recruiting fail to be an annually ranked top 20 program. Why?
 
BREAKING NEWS:

Final Four Playoff already chosen. Playoff Committee cites accuracy of recruit rankings and sides with recruit rankings :

1 seed = Alabama
2 seed = OSU
3 seed = GA
4 seed = USC


Rumors are flying around the committee that beginning in 2020 the National Champion will be chosen by the #1 ranked recruiting class

and the bowl system will be resurrected to the glory days.
 
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CJ Beathard

Ranked ...

#23 in ST
#49 at Pos
Nat'l Rank = NA
 
Desmond King -- arguably the best CB in Hawkeye history:

decommitted from:

C. Mich
Ball St


other offers:

Buffalo
E.Mich
W.Mich
N.Illinois
Indiana
Wisconsin
 
deanvogs said:
It means little really if you are #33 or #43. Iowa is behind the B1G blue bloods and probably always will be (OSU, Michigan, Penn St., Nebraska). I know Nebraska isn't a real blue blood, but they do traditionally recruit in the #20's and sometimes even better.

Now the interesting one is Maryland. They have landed a really good class, as they have convinced a bunch of the east coast guys to stay home. I wonder if this will start being a trend, as Maryland has the Under Armor name and $$$$

Iowa is right in line with the next group of B1G schools. On 247 from #34-#43 you have MSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, Rutgers....then just behind at #47 is Northwestern.

Basically it is BS saying one of this group is somehow head and shoulders above another. Time will tell (and my guess is) Wisconsin, Iowa and MSU will do the best out of that group.

Think of it more as a Tier grouping. You got the Top A+ grade (OSU, Michigan, Penn St.) Then you got a A grade (Maryland and Nebraska). Then you got the B/B+ grade (MSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, Illinois, Rutgers and Northwestern). Then you got the C grades (Minnesota, Indiana, Purdue)
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So Durkin has convinced a bunch of dudes not to go to PSU, Pitt, Va. Tech, Syracuse, or Rutgers? That's impressive. The Under Armor name has been out there for awhile..... Maryland is just now reaping the benefits of that? Soccer moms are wearing the gear, is that what is going to push Maryland into Knight/Oregon territory?
 
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